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Redfeather

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Posted on Mar 31 2020 05:19 PM

That ebay speaker doesn't have an original dustcap (should be aluminum), which probably means it isn't an original cone, either. Although the texture of the cone does look correct, at least.

I'm not knowledgeable enough on the varieties of JBLs to say whether it'll sound like a proper K130. I don't know how much of the sound is the driver vs. the cone type. Hopefully someone else on here can advise. Maybe a separate thread would help.

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Redfeather

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Posted on Mar 31 2020 05:40 PM

Sell some blood and grab one of these guys!

Original K130s

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kick_the_reverb

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Posted on Mar 31 2020 07:43 PM

K130s are just fine. Avoid E130s.
You can make an offer on the K130s above with the original cones.
Good luck,
Ran

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scotstandard

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Posted on Apr 07 2020 03:32 AM

That is FANTASTIC you built that amp! Congrats! Great job! As far as speaker Recommendations Im a fan of the Weber Chicago. It came in my tone ring cab when I bought it and I really like it. Here is an old video of the Chicago vs JBL D130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A69s25X5y2o
You probably got tubes already but next power tube change get some TAD 6L6's They are far and away my favorite. Short bottle are RCA blackplate copys and Talls have more headroom.
Do you have a head cabinet yet? Tolex isn't that hard to do. If you can build an amp you can tolex a cab. Keep up the good work! Next a reverb unit to go with the amp!

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lljsullins

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Posted on Apr 08 2020 04:38 PM

scotstandard wrote:

That is FANTASTIC you built that amp! Congrats! Great job! As far as speaker Recommendations Im a fan of the Weber Chicago. It came in my tone ring cab when I bought it and I really like it. Here is an old video of the Chicago vs JBL D130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A69s25X5y2o
You probably got tubes already but next power tube change get some TAD 6L6's They are far and away my favorite. Short bottle are RCA blackplate copys and Talls have more headroom.
Do you have a head cabinet yet? Tolex isn't that hard to do. If you can build an amp you can tolex a cab. Keep up the good work! Next a reverb unit to go with the amp!

I chose to go with all Tung-Sol reissue tubes because that's what was in the old amp! I haven't built a head cab and a speaker cab yet because it was planned with my grandfather as he's a guitar player too, but with this whole coronavirus ordeal, I don't know when we can build it. I have a 6G15 Blonde tank too!

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lljsullins

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Posted on Apr 12 2020 10:35 AM

So I'm looking for a K130 and I found one on CL and he will ship it to me for about $115. Any ideas on the condition?

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Redfeather

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Posted on Apr 12 2020 04:35 PM

It looks good but that doesn't really mean much, considering the tiny and crucial clearances involved. Has he confirmed whether it's an original cone or not? That's certainly a good price for one with an original cone but if it's a recone, it might not be worth the risk.

The main issue with recones is that some substandard kits (Waldrom, for example) don't use the flattened, edgewound coil wire that JBLS are so famous for and instead use regular round wire. This reduces the efficiency of the speaker and effectively makes it no longer a real JBL. Not a terrible speaker but not the heroic thing that built the legend.

It'd be nice to have some higher res shots of that cone to see what kind of texture it has.

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lljsullins

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Posted on Apr 12 2020 04:42 PM

Redfeather wrote:

It looks good but that doesn't really mean much, considering the tiny and crucial clearances involved. Has he confirmed whether it's an original cone or not? That's certainly a good price for one with an original cone but if it's a recone, it might not be worth the risk.

The main issue with recones is that some substandard kits (Waldrom, for example) don't use the flattened, edgewound coil wire that JBLS are so famous for and instead use regular round wire. This reduces the efficiency of the speaker and effectively makes it no longer a real JBL. Not a terrible speaker but not the heroic thing that built the legend.

It'd be nice to have some higher res shots of that cone to see what kind of texture it has.

I’m not sure but it looks original. He said he pulled it from a PA and there is no coil rub at low or high volumes?

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Redfeather

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Posted on Apr 12 2020 06:30 PM

I say go for it! 115 to your door is a rockin' deal if it's original and even if it's not, it'll still most likely be a great sounding speaker.

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lljsullins

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Posted on Apr 21 2020 07:00 PM

Don't mind my shitty playing here but here's a demo with a Realistic Jensen 12' 100-watt speaker from 1968, it was bought for a PA system and never used. It sounds 10 times better, I'll just be saving my money for a D130F.

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Redfeather Joined: Jul 30, 2016 Posts: 896	Posted on Mar 31 2020 05:19 PM That ebay speaker doesn't have an original dustcap (should be aluminum), which probably means it isn't an original cone, either. Although the texture of the cone does look correct, at least. I'm not knowledgeable enough on the varieties of JBLs to say whether it'll sound like a proper K130. I don't know how much of the sound is the driver vs. the cone type. Hopefully someone else on here can advise. Maybe a separate thread would help. Top
Redfeather Joined: Jul 30, 2016 Posts: 896	Posted on Mar 31 2020 05:40 PM Sell some blood and grab one of these guys! Original K130s Top
kick_the_reverb Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 1339 Escondido, CA	Posted on Mar 31 2020 07:43 PM K130s are just fine. Avoid E130s. You can make an offer on the K130s above with the original cones. Good luck, Ran — The Scimitars Top
scotstandard Joined: Nov 09, 2008 Posts: 1140 Davenport Iowa	Posted on Apr 07 2020 03:32 AM That is FANTASTIC you built that amp! Congrats! Great job! As far as speaker Recommendations Im a fan of the Weber Chicago. It came in my tone ring cab when I bought it and I really like it. Here is an old video of the Chicago vs JBL D130 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A69s25X5y2o You probably got tubes already but next power tube change get some TAD 6L6's They are far and away my favorite. Short bottle are RCA blackplate copys and Talls have more headroom. Do you have a head cabinet yet? Tolex isn't that hard to do. If you can build an amp you can tolex a cab. Keep up the good work! Next a reverb unit to go with the amp! — Give me reverb or give me death! facebook.com/onenightstandards https://www.youtube.com/scotstandard scotstandard@yahoo.com Top
lljsullins Joined: Aug 13, 2018 Posts: 69 Union	Posted on Apr 08 2020 04:38 PM scotstandard wrote: That is FANTASTIC you built that amp! Congrats! Great job! As far as speaker Recommendations Im a fan of the Weber Chicago. It came in my tone ring cab when I bought it and I really like it. Here is an old video of the Chicago vs JBL D130 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A69s25X5y2o You probably got tubes already but next power tube change get some TAD 6L6's They are far and away my favorite. Short bottle are RCA blackplate copys and Talls have more headroom. Do you have a head cabinet yet? Tolex isn't that hard to do. If you can build an amp you can tolex a cab. Keep up the good work! Next a reverb unit to go with the amp! I chose to go with all Tung-Sol reissue tubes because that's what was in the old amp! I haven't built a head cab and a speaker cab yet because it was planned with my grandfather as he's a guitar player too, but with this whole coronavirus ordeal, I don't know when we can build it. I have a 6G15 Blonde tank too! — Liam S Top
lljsullins Joined: Aug 13, 2018 Posts: 69 Union	Posted on Apr 12 2020 10:35 AM So I'm looking for a K130 and I found one on CL and he will ship it to me for about $115. Any ideas on the condition? — Liam S Top
Redfeather Joined: Jul 30, 2016 Posts: 896	Posted on Apr 12 2020 04:35 PM It looks good but that doesn't really mean much, considering the tiny and crucial clearances involved. Has he confirmed whether it's an original cone or not? That's certainly a good price for one with an original cone but if it's a recone, it might not be worth the risk. The main issue with recones is that some substandard kits (Waldrom, for example) don't use the flattened, edgewound coil wire that JBLS are so famous for and instead use regular round wire. This reduces the efficiency of the speaker and effectively makes it no longer a real JBL. Not a terrible speaker but not the heroic thing that built the legend. It'd be nice to have some higher res shots of that cone to see what kind of texture it has. Top
lljsullins Joined: Aug 13, 2018 Posts: 69 Union	Posted on Apr 12 2020 04:42 PM Redfeather wrote: It looks good but that doesn't really mean much, considering the tiny and crucial clearances involved. Has he confirmed whether it's an original cone or not? That's certainly a good price for one with an original cone but if it's a recone, it might not be worth the risk. The main issue with recones is that some substandard kits (Waldrom, for example) don't use the flattened, edgewound coil wire that JBLS are so famous for and instead use regular round wire. This reduces the efficiency of the speaker and effectively makes it no longer a real JBL. Not a terrible speaker but not the heroic thing that built the legend. It'd be nice to have some higher res shots of that cone to see what kind of texture it has. I’m not sure but it looks original. He said he pulled it from a PA and there is no coil rub at low or high volumes? — Liam S Top
Redfeather Joined: Jul 30, 2016 Posts: 896	Posted on Apr 12 2020 06:30 PM I say go for it! 115 to your door is a rockin' deal if it's original and even if it's not, it'll still most likely be a great sounding speaker. Top
lljsullins Joined: Aug 13, 2018 Posts: 69 Union	Posted on Apr 21 2020 07:00 PM Don't mind my shitty playing here but here's a demo with a Realistic Jensen 12' 100-watt speaker from 1968, it was bought for a PA system and never used. It sounds 10 times better, I'll just be saving my money for a D130F. — Liam S Top

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