Elrondo
Joined: Jun 03, 2018
Posts: 22
Bavaria
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 10:54 AM
Hi Gang!
I didn't wanted to read all 120 pages this time so i decited to ask.
Can anyone recommend a spring pan with a max. Length of 26 cm / 10" ?
Best wishes and greets
El
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 11:27 AM
Peter, sometimes low reverb signal is caused reversed cavles to the reverb. Please check that RevOUT goes to INPUT of the pan, and RevIN to OUTPUT.
ELRondo, I recommend a pan with 8 or 10 ohm input impedance and 2250 ohm output imp. For example the small version: 8AB3C1B
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PeterPunk
Joined: Jul 07, 2019
Posts: 7
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 11:36 AM
bjoish wrote:
Peter, sometimes low reverb signal is caused reversed cavles to the reverb. Please check that RevOUT goes to INPUT of the pan, and RevIN to OUTPUT.
I knew that, tried both ways , to make sure. when i connect input+ with output + i get a clean loud signal like a footswitch bypass would do, is this normal and the way you route for a footswitch input?
Peter
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 01:07 PM
Sorry for my sloppy text.
Connecting RevOUT to RevIN would cause extreme gain, I dont recommend that. The footswitch will disable the return signal by shorting RevIN to ground.
If you shake the pan, do you get a loud splash?
Have you checked the values of the potentiometers?
We also have troubleshooting tips on the faq pages on the website.
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PeterPunk
Joined: Jul 07, 2019
Posts: 7
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 01:55 PM
bjoish wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy text.
Connecting RevOUT to RevIN would cause extreme gain, I dont recommend that. The footswitch will disable the return signal by shorting RevIN to ground.
If you shake the pan, do you get a loud splash?
Have you checked the values of the potentiometers?
We also have troubleshooting tips on the faq pages on the website.
hi, not the reverb in and out, the guitar and amp jacks.
yes , get a splash,not as loud as it should be, but it`s there. checked the potis 2x 50 , 1x 250 goes to mix.
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Gilette
Joined: May 04, 2014
Posts: 734
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 03:58 PM
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PeterPunk
Joined: Jul 07, 2019
Posts: 7
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 05:51 PM
Gilette wrote:
Peter, i'm not sure but didn't you switch any of the ground wires to the rca connectors?
The red ones go to the center pole, grey and black are GND , go to side pole of the jacks, should be right.
thx
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Gilette
Joined: May 04, 2014
Posts: 734
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Posted on Jul 07 2019 10:53 PM
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Jul 08 2019 03:41 AM
Peter, I will repky to your mail!
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PeterPunk
Joined: Jul 07, 2019
Posts: 7
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Posted on Jul 08 2019 08:52 AM
bjoish wrote:
Peter, I will repky to your mail!
Thanx, check it out later.
There`s a test of the SURFYBEAR REVERB TANK METAL and the non metal version in the german Gitarre und Bass magazine + Interview of you, wonder if they send you a copy.
Testers liked the surfy bear, more orders incoming i guess.
THX
Peter
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PeterPunk
Joined: Jul 07, 2019
Posts: 7
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Posted on Jul 13 2019 06:28 AM
Hi,
Thanx a lot for the help.
Got a replacement board , put things together and after an hour everything works, no hum or noises. Love the sound.
Thanx again Bjôrn and Lorenzo for the fast help.
Here`s my build, nothing for the road, but something different, Acryl needs some polish, the sides are not closed yet but 80% ready.
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Rossmosis
Joined: Jul 13, 2010
Posts: 179
Austin
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Posted on Aug 01 2019 11:21 PM
Decided to build one myself, sounds great
— The Del-Vipers
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SandBug
Joined: Feb 22, 2016
Posts: 442
California
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Posted on Aug 03 2019 02:04 AM
Rossmosis wrote:
Decided to build one myself, sounds great
I dig that LED choice. Cool!
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Doc_Helliday
Joined: Aug 13, 2019
Posts: 4
Santa Ana, CA
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Posted on Aug 13 2019 12:13 PM
Hey y'all, just finished my DIY kit with a Belton tank. All mounted to my pedalboard
My question is actually what style of enclosure unintentionally crashes the most?
I actually want this random crashing sound sprinkled throughout my band's set. I'm finding right now I have to physically pickup an end of the tank and let it fall back down to crash, not exactly convenient mid song
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Aug 13 2019 12:44 PM
Doc_Helliday wrote:
Hey y'all, just finished my DIY kit with a Belton tank. All mounted to my pedalboard
My question is actually what style of enclosure unintentionally crashes the most?
I actually want this random crashing sound sprinkled throughout my band's set. I'm finding right now I have to physically pickup an end of the tank and let it fall back down to crash, not exactly convenient mid song
Hi Doc,
interesting premise! You'd have to experiment with opposite of the advice usually given, i.e.:
- mount the pan directly to a hard surface, w/o any springs/foam or other type of absorption.
- if you dare tinkering, replace the INNER pan springs with softer ones.
- place it closer to vibrating sources (bass drum, big speakers)
- If the pan is C type, mount it as B type, and vice versa (talking about horizontal/vertical orientation)
- install a mechanical lever that would lift the whole pedalboard at the slightest press, or that would hit it hard enough.
Keep in mind, that the springs could rattle throughout, but the coveted crash happens only when they actually hit the enclosure.
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Doc_Helliday
Joined: Aug 13, 2019
Posts: 4
Santa Ana, CA
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Posted on Aug 13 2019 03:12 PM
Ariel wrote:
Hi Doc,
interesting premise! You'd have to experiment with opposite of the advice usually given, i.e.:
- mount the pan directly to a hard surface, w/o any springs/foam or other type of absorption.
- if you dare tinkering, replace the INNER pan springs with softer ones.
- place it closer to vibrating sources (bass drum, big speakers)
- If the pan is C type, mount it as B type, and vice versa (talking about horizontal/vertical orientation)
- install a mechanical lever that would lift the whole pedalboard at the slightest press, or that would hit it hard enough.
Keep in mind, that the springs could rattle throughout, but the coveted crash happens only when they actually hit the enclosure.
Thanks for the advice! I gotta reverse engineer y'alls solutions.
Seems like, mounted to a pedalboard it doesn't crash at all, which is nice. I'll have to experiment. My plan was to make a 2 tier pedalboard with the pan under, but tilting back/picking up the whole board is too combersome
was trying to avoid mounting it in a toolbox, just to cut down on things to carry to the gigs but, that may actually end up being more practical/controllable
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DerJuicen
Joined: Aug 05, 2017
Posts: 17
Long Beach, Ca
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Posted on Aug 13 2019 07:59 PM
Doc_Helliday wrote:
Ariel wrote:
Hi Doc,
interesting premise! You'd have to experiment with opposite of the advice usually given, i.e.:
- mount the pan directly to a hard surface, w/o any springs/foam or other type of absorption.
- if you dare tinkering, replace the INNER pan springs with softer ones.
- place it closer to vibrating sources (bass drum, big speakers)
- If the pan is C type, mount it as B type, and vice versa (talking about horizontal/vertical orientation)
- install a mechanical lever that would lift the whole pedalboard at the slightest press, or that would hit it hard enough.
Keep in mind, that the springs could rattle throughout, but the coveted crash happens only when they actually hit the enclosure.
Thanks for the advice! I gotta reverse engineer y'alls solutions.
Seems like, mounted to a pedalboard it doesn't crash at all, which is nice. I'll have to experiment. My plan was to make a 2 tier pedalboard with the pan under, but tilting back/picking up the whole board is too combersome
was trying to avoid mounting it in a toolbox, just to cut down on things to carry to the gigs but, that may actually end up being more practical/controllable
Top of page 103 is my board. I can get the pan to crash by lifting it with my foot and dropping it. Not too cumbersome at all.
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Doc_Helliday
Joined: Aug 13, 2019
Posts: 4
Santa Ana, CA
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Posted on Aug 14 2019 12:18 PM
DerJuicen wrote:
Top of page 103 is my board. I can get the pan to crash by lifting it with my foot and dropping it. Not too cumbersome at all.
I was trying to base my board off of yours, how did you build it and what do you use for a case?
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DerJuicen
Joined: Aug 05, 2017
Posts: 17
Long Beach, Ca
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Posted on Aug 14 2019 01:41 PM
Doc_Helliday wrote:
DerJuicen wrote:
Top of page 103 is my board. I can get the pan to crash by lifting it with my foot and dropping it. Not too cumbersome at all.
I was trying to base my board off of yours, how did you build it and what do you use for a case?
That board I had made back in '02 I think. Had the diamond plate laying around, was playing through a Mesa dual rec at the time. The bottom was for the 5 button footswitch, the top had tuner/gate/phaser/chorus. No longer have the Mesa, and it worked perfectly in this config. I can take measurements when I'm back home if you want. I am also thinking about a new board without diamond plate. Spring pan under the front part, power supply under the rear, as my pedal collection has grown. Never put this one in a case, if I ever did need a case I would personally look into Pelican cases.
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Elrondo
Joined: Jun 03, 2018
Posts: 22
Bavaria
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Posted on Aug 14 2019 02:41 PM
I think i have an easy and proper solution for a housing wich easily shakes the springs.
Make the bottom of the housing not flat.
Make it with an angle in the horizontal mid.
So you can easily rock it over the angle.
Sorry i can't explain it better in english.
If you like i can make a little drawing.
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