Does it keep slipping, or does it not intonate in the first place? I have EB Cobalt 11s on my Jag, (FWIW, it has a Mastery Bridge on it), and I've been thinking about trying a set of the 12s.

This interests me, so I'll be following this.

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Is the G string not sitting in the nut slot properly? If it looks like it is sitting properly, try some pencil lead in there. If it isn't sitting well, gotta get it sized properly.

No, absolutely not. I've never had a round core unravel and strings really don't slip at the tuner.

Amazing how few tuning issues I have despite my judicious vibrato use, lack of a roller bridge, round core strings, nickel strings, non-locking tuners.

I've had a chance to play the GTS roundcore 12's on my Jag (12-52) for a bit. (After waiting a month for them, apparently Gabriel had an issue with some delivery of bulk wire or something.) Tiny tweak on the truss rod from the 11's & the guitar was happy. Only guitar I grabbed for the last few days; I then did another "pull-in" and they stay in tune very nicely.

They feel great and the 12's gave back that extra meat I want out of a Jag in the first place. They are especially balanced 5th thru 3rd strings which I REALLY appreciate for the trad Eliminator-ish stuff this Jag really shines at. Guitar-tank-amp, elegant in its simplicity & works like my ear says it should.

The only verdict pending will be to see how long they last. If they can outlast a couple of sets of the others then they're a winner & worth the money. It would be nice to find someone who stocks them regularly in stock, if such a thing exists - even a music shop who would mail some if they have them. Gabriel is a small operation it seems when ordering direct & making strings is certainly enough to handle.

Pretty nice; thanks Jake.

Now awaiting my Roto purples to try on the Strat, since I just got the neck back from a small repair and had my guy do a dress & level while at it.

Wes
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Oh, I think I misinterpreted the message. "tune the strings to pitch" to me "to pitch" meant the pitch you want the guitar to settle at. Really, this means "put some tension on the strings after you insert it into the tuning peg before you clip the string off".

With top load Fender tuners, you don't have a choice. And with 'traditional' tuners, why would you clip them off before you wrapped it around the post.

Ariel wrote:

For years now I'm with Pyramid Pure Nickel Flatwounds (*On my Jag and JM), 12-56 or 13-52. They last so long, and sound so good for all their lives with almost no falloff, and feel so fine. I truly love these strings.
So my point being, is there even a point for me to try something else
What am I expecting to get with flats that cost less?

You can expect shorter life from both the strings and your frets. Almost all of the cheaper flatwounds are wound with stainless steel instead of nickel, and are much harder on your frets. IMO, the only rival that Pyramid flats have is TI Swings, which are somewhat more flexible in a given gauge due to their thinner core diameters. The possible downside of that is that the TI's dynamic response is somewhat softer ("spongier" pick attack). I prefer Pyramids on my Fenders and TIs on my hollowbodies.

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Thanks Gentlemen! So I'll stick with what I know and love, which is also considered the best. Hard choice, right...
For a non-player like me, once a year per change at most, that's a good investment.
Good point about the frets Mike, never considered that.

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From what I've read, Strat pickups were originally designed with a wound G in mind, so a plain G sounds out of balance with the other strings.

crumble wrote:

With all my Fender guitars I seem to go around in circles trying to set up and invariably end up with a string action compromise. Fender's bolt on neck often causes a slight bump behind the 12th fret and nearly all necks suffer a kind of mathematical fault - see compound radius "cylinder vs cone". Now Fender are flirting with compound radius I think it's a good idea to take an interest, most of what we hear is about the benefits of comfort and string bending but there is a third factor of near zero neck relief without buzz. I'd say that's good news for Fender players especially those who prefer heavy duty strings.

Funny I always seemingly have this problem and think it's a fret needing filing but rather a inherent design flaw. Perhaps that's what they intended to fix with the introduction of the three bolt necks? Seems more prevalent with round wound strings. Makes sense seeing as the general fender guitar designs were developed around flat wound strings.

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