spskins
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 02:30 PM
Here's the link:
https://surfguitar101.com/polls/20/
I am also wondering if a cd is not available, would you buy the mp3
download?
And if the vinyl comes with the free download, would you still buy it or hold out because there is no cd?
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bamboozer
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Delaware
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 03:10 PM
Not at all, I buy regular CD's but also buy downloads and burn them to CD. You get the music immediately and can still burn the Cd to take it where you need to go.
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Brian
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 03:31 PM
I can start a 2nd poll for the yes/no question "I am also wondering if a cd is not available, would you buy the mp3 download?" if you like Ted.
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Brian
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 03:33 PM
Lately I've been leaning towards digital only because I don't like having so much stuff. But I still buy CDs from bands I really love, but I almost immediately rip them. CD players are getting quite rare these days.
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Ariel
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Israel
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 03:40 PM
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I'm all for having your music in physical form, but CD's are just not reliable enough. They always skip.
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Lossless formats for downloads should really become standardized now.
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I'm sad to see the art of the large album cover lost. It will never be the same.
bamboozer wrote:
Not at all, I buy regular CD's but also buy downloads and burn them to CD. You get the music immediately and can still burn the Cd to take it where you need to go.
Why Do you still use those CD flip organizers?
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spskins
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 03:48 PM
Brian wrote:
I can start a 2nd poll for the yes/no question "I am also wondering if a cd is not available, would you buy the mp3 download?" if you like Ted.
Thanks Brian, but it seems these fine folks are getting it and are mentioning that caveat.
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spskins
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 03:53 PM
DreadInBabylon wrote:
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I'm all for having your music in physical form, but CD's are just not reliable enough. They always skip.
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Lossless formats for downloads should really become standardized now.
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I'm sad to see the art of the large album cover lost. It will never be the same.
bamboozer wrote:
Not at all, I buy regular CD's but also buy downloads and burn them to CD. You get the music immediately and can still burn the Cd to take it where you need to go.
Why Do you still use those CD flip organizers?
Ha! No, we are trying to decide if we should do our next release with vinyl and a free download code plus the high quality download available for those who don't do vinyl. In the last couple of years, I've noticed that our sales have downloads in first place, vinyl in second and cds trail a distant third. I'm personally not a big fan of the cd and always get vinyl if it's available. Because of time etc I also find that a good amount of my listening needs to be from a device, so I appreciate the vinyl with the free download. Thanks for all of your input!
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 03:55 PM
I prefer to buy vinyl (a download card is a plus), but I don't think CDs are obsolete. From my experience there is an age group still buying CDs at shows (45-70 yrs old) while the young ones tend towards buying vinyl.
Rev
PS plus CDs are way cheaper to manufacture and mail out from a band perspective.
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
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Guildford England
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 04:25 PM
CDs are still the most reliable and hard wearing medium. You can hold it in your hand and it is yours forever. I wonder exactly how much an mp3 weighs? I would prefer digital downloads to be uncompressed 30-bit with a generous lashing of digital art work and liner notes. Why are distributers all so mean!
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 04:29 PM
Have you priced vinyl lately? Gawd it's expensive. A 7" with a picture sleeve can be upwards of $2k for 300.
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Ariel
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Israel
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 04:38 PM
As for the customer, mail costs have to be mentioned, overseas especially.
spskins, sorry for getting philosophical... If you'll have a FLAC available, I'll buy it.
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darrenk
Joined: Dec 19, 2010
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San Jose, CA
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 04:45 PM
I believe compact disc are becoming as obsolete as vinyl records and tube based electronics. Are you really interested if they are becoming obsolete or what format people prefer to purchase their music?
To date I have bought my music almost exclusively on CDs. I like being able to buy something directly from the band. Once I get them home I rip them and listen to them on my computer. I only listen to actual CDs in my car. I like the idea that with a CD, if I end up not wanting it anymore, I can sell it. Can't do that with digital media.
The only mp3/flac music I have purchased are some of the NSSR fundraiser collections, Dumb Loud Hollow Twang Deluxe, and a thumb drive from Thee Swank Bastards. I am probably going to buy more starting this year and my preference will be flac.
-Darren
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darrenk
Joined: Dec 19, 2010
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San Jose, CA
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 04:54 PM
crumble wrote:
CDs are still the most reliable and hard wearing medium. You can hold it in your hand and it is yours forever.
The disc might be forever but you might not be able to always get the data off of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot
The other thing is that the compact disc might last a long time, but what about your CD player?
-Darren
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
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Guildford England
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 05:49 PM
darrenk wrote:
crumble wrote:
CDs are still the most reliable and hard wearing medium. You can hold it in your hand and it is yours forever.
The disc might be forever but you might not be able to always get the data off of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot
The other thing is that the compact disc might last a long time, but what about your CD player?
-Darren
The wiki was an interesting read thanks. It's a tough one but the CD has had the best test of time compared to computer hard-drive or flash memory. I agree it has it's faults but technology wise that's where we are at the moment, until we have massive storage and super-super-super fast broadband the CD still stands quite tall IMO. I'm sure there is enough CD players on earth to see my days out so I'm not too worried! ;)
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 06:28 PM
until we have massive storage and super-super-super fast broadband the CD still stands quite tall IMO.
We do have massive storage and fast broadband. I just uploaded almost 3000 tracks to "the cloud" and I can access them anywhere I have a computer or phone. It's amazing.
I'm sure there is enough CD players on earth to see my days out so I'm not too worried! ;)
They will be around for a while, but in ever decreasing numbers. I think I read the last factory that made VHS players closed down last year or the year before. Many new laptops don't come with an optical drive and I suspect the same is true for cars...?
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summerfun
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 07:15 PM
Another issue is "bronzing", which affected some CDs manufactured in the UK from the late 1980's through the early 1990's. I have an Ace Records CD compilation of Del-Fi Records surf bands which I purchased in the early 1990's that has this issue, but still played fine last time I checked. Yes, I have a surf CD with a tan!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_bronzing
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montereyjack66
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 07:38 PM
In terms of the audience, it's a mixed bag. There are younger folks who scoff at CDs, and, particularly for the surf and rockabilly crowds who often still prefer CDs and vinyl, - sometimes are not going to relate to the idea of a download. What's a surfer girl to do?
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 08:40 PM
No to CDs, I can't have them around. Space hogs.
For Pilgrims, I'm going to want the physical, so vinyl. I'm buying more downloads as vinyl is pricing me out.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 08:42 PM
Brian wrote:
until we have massive storage and super-super-super fast broadband the CD still stands quite tall IMO.
We do have massive storage and fast broadband. I just uploaded almost 3000 tracks to "the cloud" and I can access them anywhere I have a computer or phone. It's amazing.
Yeah, a song collection takes little space and even the slowest internet connection can stream a song.
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Reverbenator
Joined: Jul 26, 2015
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San Diego, Ca
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Posted on Jan 07 2017 09:58 PM
CDs obsolete? Not for me, not in my lifetime.
Let me pose this question to any of you who are, say, 55-60 years old, on up:
Would any of you purchase Herb Alperts 'Whipped Cream and Other Delights' on MP3, sans the artwork, when you could have the Album or CD with the artwork? I don't think so.
Cheers, Clark
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