SilverFlash
Joined: Jul 14, 2015
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Near Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Nov 07 2015 06:16 PM
I occasionally stop by the pawn shops in my small Georgia town to look for bargain guitars. Ninety-nine percent of the time there is absolutely nothing of interest, but today I came across something that caused me to take a second look: a Sears Silvertone model 319.14410000 guitar. It is obviously a Mosrite copy and clearly states that it was made in Japan. It seemed to be in great condition and the only issue I found was some fret buzz at the 12th fret of the G string. I did not have the opportunity to listen to it through an amp as the shop was about to close. The asking price is $360 USD, but past experience leads me to believe it could be had for under $300. With no idea as to what would be a fair price, I left it hanging on the wall and headed home to do some research on the internet and to solicit the opinions of the sg101 community. Is it trash or treasure?
Here is what I found out on the internet. This model of the 1441 was made by Teisco and had previously been sold as the 1445. The 1445 was considered the flagship of the Japanese made Silvertone line. The guitar would have been made between 1968 – 1972. I found a short thread on the 1445 here at sg101. There seemed to be some enthusiasm for the guitar, but no information on the price.
It has the following specifications and features:
Body: Morite-style, celluloid bound, fully contoured, Maple over basswood with German carve; sunburst (yellow-red-mahogany) nitrocellulose lacquer finish; tortoise shell celluloid pickguard.
Neck: Bolt-on solid Maple neck with Rosewood fretboard, Pearloid block inlays and triple bound celluloid edge (w/b/w); 25-1/2"; 22 frets with zero fret; 1-5/8"at nut.
Pickups: Three Teisco single coil "Hound Dog" pups wired in series (loud, louder, loudest); 3 slide switches plus tone boost switch for 7 pup combinations; 3 volumes and 1 master tone control.
The one I found seems to be in better condition than any pictures I found on the internet. It had the original tremolo fully intact. It had all four volume and tone knobs. It also had a metal cover over the bridge that I did not see in any of the few pictures that I found. Players probably always removed it to allow palm muting.
These are pictures that I found on the internet. They are accurate, but not the specific one I am considering.




I have only recently thought that it would be neat to own a Mosrite, but they are seriously out of my budget. Is this vintage Mosrite-style knockoff an opportunity I should jump on for the price? Please let me know your thoughts.
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Richard
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Georgia
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Posted on Nov 07 2015 08:35 PM
Hey Tim, is this a pawn shop or the music store downtown? I want to say I saw this or one very similar to it in there one day when I wandered in, and almost walked away with it. I think it's a good price, and these guitars have their fans, though besides my opinion that it looks seriously cool I can't tell you anything about it.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Nov 07 2015 10:03 PM
Other than the rough shape of the body, these guitars are nothing like Mosrites. Very different pickups, the necks are complete opposites, and the body thickness will feel very different.
It's a cool guitar. The nicer of those two photos, I've played that one before. The trem is useless as it is with most guitars of its ilk. Cool sound, can be willed to play well.
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SilverFlash
Joined: Jul 14, 2015
Posts: 478
Near Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Nov 08 2015 12:52 PM
Hi Richard, I saw it in one of the pawn shops on 278. It looks like I'll have to step up the frequency of my pawn shop patrols if you beat me to it, LOL. I think it had been 4 to 6 weeks since my previous visit, so that gives an idea of when it came into their inventory. The funny thing is that the way the tape with the hand written price was affixed to the side of the guitar I saw $35 and then the 9 started to drift up and the rest of the price curved out of sight. For a second I thought it was selling for $35.95! That wouldn't have surprised me much given what I suspect is the low regard an old Made in Japan Sears Silvertone has hereabouts. I was actually more surprised when I realized the true price and it became one of the most expensive guitars in the shop. That's what got me thinking that it might be something special, perhaps a quality guitar made during the transitional period when Made in Japan went from Ugh To Ahh! In any event, it makes me feel better about my gut instincts to know that you also considered purchasing it, at least for a moment.
Jake, thanks for responding. Very interesting to learn that you have actually played one from the photos. It is a cool looking guitar, but I probably need a 'good' guitar more than a 'cool' one. My true pawn shop quest is to find a Squier VM Jazzmaster or Jaguar at a decent discount below the typical $300 price on Amazon, so I think I'll keep the money in my guitar war chest and continue the search.
Thanks again for the insight,
Tim
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Nov 08 2015 06:26 PM
Handful of VM Jags on Reverb.com for $250-$275
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Clarry
Joined: Oct 01, 2014
Posts: 519
Streatham, London
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 06:23 AM
I had one of these about 10 years ago. Bought off Ebay for about £200 ($300).
Very rattly with some worn out frets, I sold it on to a friend for the same price. Last I heard it's in an attic in Peckham, London, gathering dust with the other guitars he doesn't use.
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 06:32 AM
JakeDobner wrote:
Handful of VM Jags on Reverb.com for $250-$275
All I see are VM jag basses for $179.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 09:40 AM
Search Squier Jaguar and sort by price.
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 09:52 AM
Thanks Jake, that did it. There's a ton of em $300 and less. Many surf green. One of these could be my next acquisition.
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killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
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Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 10:30 AM
You can get some great sounds out of these.
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SilverFlash
Joined: Jul 14, 2015
Posts: 478
Near Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 04:09 PM
Hi Noah, He does make it sing. Thanks for sharing. It makes me want to go back and play the local one through an amp to see if sounds near as good.
He kicks off his video by saying, "The Silvertone 1445-9L is the best Mosrite copy you're going to find for under a thousand dollars." That's the kind of statement that could stir up some debate. It sort of begs the question, "What is the best Mosrite copy for under a thousand?" Opinions, anyone?
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skeeter
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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Virginia, USA
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 06:57 PM
That guitar looks pretty cool! I don't think you can go wrong for @ $300.
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killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
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Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Nov 09 2015 07:56 PM
SilverFlash wrote:
Hi Noah, He does make it sing. Thanks for sharing. It makes me want to go back and play the local one through an amp to see if sounds near as good.
He kicks off his video by saying, "The Silvertone 1445-9L is the best Mosrite copy you're going to find for under a thousand dollars." That's the kind of statement that could stir up some debate. It sort of begs the question, "What is the best Mosrite copy for under a thousand?" Opinions, anyone?
Hallmark. Hands down. Many players, including myself, believe then to be superior to Mosrite in many ways.
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Nov 10 2015 06:35 AM
killbabykill34 wrote:
SilverFlash wrote:
Hi Noah, He does make it sing. Thanks for sharing. It makes me want to go back and play the local one through an amp to see if sounds near as good.
He kicks off his video by saying, "The Silvertone 1445-9L is the best Mosrite copy you're going to find for under a thousand dollars." That's the kind of statement that could stir up some debate. It sort of begs the question, "What is the best Mosrite copy for under a thousand?" Opinions, anyone?
Hallmark. Hands down. Many players, including myself, believe then to be superior to Mosrite in many ways.
And they have the Johnny Ramone model. So there.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
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SanchoPansen
Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
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Posted on Nov 11 2015 03:56 AM
Hallmarks are the best Mosrite copies IMO.
I own an original Mark V Mosrite, a Fillmore reissue Mark I, 2 Hallmark 60 Customs and a Aria Diamond DM380. While the original has a sound of it's own (and nothing can beat that sound when it comes to Mosrites), the Hallmarks are the best bang for the buck. Very close to the original tone, excellent build quality and you can find them for less than 1k used in lots of interesting colors.
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Vince_Ray
Joined: Aug 26, 2015
Posts: 252
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Posted on Nov 11 2015 04:31 AM
killbabykill34 wrote:
You can get some great sounds out of these.
STREWTH!That woke me up. Love the sound he got from the pedal too, a Digitech RP60 apparently.
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petersmith
Joined: Mar 22, 2016
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Posted on Mar 22 2016 03:24 AM
I've bought all three of my guitars at Pawnshops and they are the best place to buy guitars. and it seems like they sell some sweet guitars you just don't see in the shops or hear about much and in the long run they're allways the perfect guitar at least for me they are. i hate it when i see one i want and it's gone when i can get it.
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