Isn't the biggest difference between heavy metal and bubblegum that parents wanted to kill their kids for playing too much bubblegum, and parents were afraid of their kids who played too much heavy metal?

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

BillyBlastOff wrote:

Ok, so who wants to start a surfed out Tribute To Sabbath Cd? We got dibs on War Pigs! As a matter a fact, already threw it on the "BANNED from the BEACH setlist months ago!

Dibs on Paranoid!!!

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spskins wrote:

I'll discuss some bubblegum. I need that book!

Real men don't fear it's chewy chewy goodness.
I need that hat sailor-boy!

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Sorry about this- I redid the song using an image of my son's. Now there's a kid who knows his metal. Anyways...

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It's a puzzling and often frustrating aspect of the modern world's "internet expert" age where so many genuinely believe that they are more knowledgeable on subjects that others literally spend their entire lives studying.

Enter historian and author Ian Christie...the prologue of his revolutionary work Sound Of The Beast: The Complete Headbanging History Of Heavy Metal is appropriately titled "Friday, February 13, 1970" and as early as page 10 of Chapter One "The 1970s: Prelude to Heaviness," he explains:

Before Black Sabbath, "heavy" had referred more to a feeling than a particular musical style, as in hippiespeak it described anything with potent mood. Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles often wrote songs that pointed toward a heavy break, a bridge between melodies that tried to resolve conflicting emotions and ideas. The "metal" in heavy metal put a steely resilience to that struggle, an unbreakable thematic strength that secured the tension and uninhibited emotion. As ordained by Black Sabbath, heavy metal was a complex maelstrom of neurosis and desire. Formed into an unbending force of deceptive simplicity, it had an omnivorous appetite for life.

As for the words themeselves: Beat writer William S. Burroughs named a character in his 1964 novel Nova Express "Uranium Willy, the heavy metal kid." The critic Lester Bangs, an early and literate proponent of Black Sabbath, later applied the term to music. Before them, "heavy metal" was a nineteenth-century term used in warfare to describe firepower and in chemistry to designate newly discovered elements of high molecular density. When "Born To Be Wild" songwriter John Kay from Steppenwolf howled about "heavy metal thunder" in 1968, he was describing only the blare of motorcycles. Without Black Sabbath the phrase was an accident of poetry, the empty prophecy of a thousand monkeys hammering on typewriters in search of a Bible.

There were scant few stones an investigator could overturn to find precedent for how completely Black Sabbath brought and embodied a revolutionary new beginning.

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In my honest opinion, if your gonna cover any Sabbath tunes live, you better have two guitar players. Just sayin'.

Be careful following the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent...........................

Ian Christie born 1970 Switzerland. Another 2D cardboard cut-out who can only take the music at face value, unable to use his senses and unable to sense the mood of the people of the time. Articles and interviews of the actual time are plentiful and more likely hold the truth. Even musicians themselves can be unreliable when speaking in past tense. Influences can be cut and dry such as Robin Trower is influenced by Hendrix and there are artists who might consider themselves worthy of a "sir" prefix who might just alter their past influences to suit. In quantum physics it is vital to remove GOD from the equation to uncover the truth then so influences must be removed to see the truth of heavy metal.

There once was a man from Nantucket
He played in metal-made bucket
The sound was so bad
He killed his own dad
And Metal was born, now f_ck it!

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Brian wrote:

So instead of attacking his arguments, you attack the man. There is a term for that.

I am completely baffled by this turn this thread has taken. Of course when the first Black Sabbath album came out, the musical press did not label it the first heavy metal album. That came much later, you know, after all the heavy metal bands formed in its wake, and they all, more or less, pointed their finger at that first Black Sabbath album as one of their primary motivators. I'm talking about heavy metal bands that many of you in this thread have no interest in, know nothing about, and can't even name.

Bringing SG101 into disrepute. Arguing in an environment where bands and fans coexist. Please accept my humble apologies one and all. American site which I am a guest and grateful for I have no authority what so ever but as a surf fan I do find endless pages about heavy metal distracting. I wasn't my intention to perpetuate the thread at all.

BillyBlastOff wrote:

In my honest opinion, if your gonna cover any Sabbath tunes live, you better have two guitar players. Just sayin'.

Tell that to Tony Iommi.

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