Yamaha SGV 800 made in Taiwan?

freddie

Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Posts: 4
Russia

Posted on Mar 12 2012 03:54 PM

Hello everyone!

need your advise on the following axe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-umDszgGQio&feature=player_embedded

I've found this one in mint condition for sale for $600, but it's
announced as "made in taiwan", which sounds strange, taking in consideration the price, as I know MIJ SGV800s should cost about $900.
Does anybody know if they're really produced in Taiwan or it's some
kind of the clone? Thanks in advance

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crumble

Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
United Kingdom

Posted on Mar 12 2012 06:19 PM

Hi freddie, welcome to SG101.
I'm sure some one on the forum will be able to answer your questions better than myself, but i had a quick google and it does appear the SGV-800 is made in Taiwan as well as Japan. The video states it is a PSW which will be the variant of model. The Japanese always build some variants at a price points - less luxurious SGV-800's in this case type PSW.

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SpaceFargo

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Lake Forest, CA
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Posted on Mar 12 2012 10:16 PM

My SGV 300 was made in Taiwan so it's probably legit. Plays and sounds great so don't let that dissuade you.

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Mr_Reverb63

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Posted on Mar 13 2012 12:03 AM

Its not a Clone, i think the Taiwan ones were meant to be distributed to countries other than Japan. While they keep the nicer made in japan ones :argh:. That's a really nice color though u should definitely go for it. i haven't seen one of those in that color pop up in a while.

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morphball

Joined: Dec 23, 2008
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Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Mar 13 2012 10:31 AM

I want to say they're all made in Taiwan, perhaps with the exception of those uber-pricey "Blue Jeans" models (can't confirm, as I've never saw one in person). I have a 700 that is a Japanese market only model, and it is also made in Taiwan. Yes, it's probably real, snatch that up! I have never seen an 800 in a white finish, LOVE it!

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IvanP

Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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southern Michigan
United States

Posted on Mar 13 2012 10:50 AM

What a strange young man playing the demo of that guitar, alternately very serious and kinda unhinged! I like how he says at one point "Do you vant to hear some Russian surf??" in English, and then plays some pretty cool licks!

A beautiful guitar, though, for sure! Good luck!

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morphball

Joined: Dec 23, 2008
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Pittsboro, NC
United States

Posted on Mar 13 2012 11:50 AM

Yeah, I almost tuned out hearing those opening blues riffs, but I got a kick out of him too and found him to be an extremely competent player- the "Russian surf" was not very surfy, but still really interesting!

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tiki101

Joined: Mar 22, 2009
Posts: 101
pgh, where the zombies live

Posted on Mar 14 2012 08:53 PM

yep.
my blue sparkle 800 was made in Taiwan. Totally beautiful, I think as well made as any Japanese guitar I've owned.
You'll love it.

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freddie

Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Posts: 4
Russia

Posted on Mar 21 2012 07:27 AM

Thanks, guys< I'm in contact with seller and he's ready to lower price a bit, so I hope I'll get it soon. Regarding person on video - as far I know that guys is a guitar player in progressive rock band, but he's more famous by his guitar reviews
Strangely enough people in Russia in common just unable to realize what a nice guitar it's, as I can estimate 99.9% percent guitar players play heavy metal. Comments in Russian to the video are just ridiculous, the only excuse could be that SGV looks similar to USSR main brand - Ural guitars, which were just horrible, but most of people just had to play them as there were no choice. Image attached, it really looks like design was taken from Yamaha

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Voodoocurse

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Posted on Mar 21 2012 08:59 AM

Impressingly tight jeans. MIT?

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raito

Joined: Oct 16, 2008
Posts: 551
Madison, WI
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Posted on Mar 21 2012 11:08 AM

Wahtever that guy's saying probably isn't as hilarious as what my mind is filling in...

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JObeast

Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
Turkmenistan

Posted on Mar 11 2018 01:44 AM

IvanP wrote:

What a strange young man playing the demo of that guitar, alternately very serious and kinda unhinged! I like how he says at one point "Do you vant to hear some Russian surf??" in English, and then plays some pretty cool licks!

A beautiful guitar, though, for sure! Good luck!

Tabachnikov’s manner seems typically intense for a young Russian dude. He also seems to really get the SGV’s feel and sound - its sproingy string tension that says ‘wank all across my neck’ and the midrangey bark reminisncent of a Strat but utterly different. It’s really a beast of another color.

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BasilK

Joined: Apr 05, 2017
Posts: 31
Salt Lake City
United States

Posted on Mar 11 2018 02:05 PM

As a general matter, Yamaha opened up a factory in Taiwan in 1970 and produced guitars until 2008, when they moved production to China. Taiwanese Yamaha models were not "farmed out" to an secondary manufacturer like so so many other companies have done when moving operations to China for example. Yamaha built the plant to their specifications and trained staff to meet their high production standards. Taiwanese models shouldn't be dismissed as inferior as Yamaha is quite serious about quality control. I myself own a Yamaha SA-2100 made in Taiwan and it is excellent. When compared to the same Japanese made model, I couldn't tell any difference in quality or finish. I don't want to sound like a Yamaha commercial, but they really do put out excellent products for the money.

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JObeast

Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
Turkmenistan

Posted on Mar 12 2018 05:35 PM

Taiwanese bike parts are the best, and this axe reminds me of a MIT Shimano derailleur mechanism. Lean and athletic, precisely cast and honed to exact tolerances. Nothing second-line about anything the Taiwanese do.

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Squink Out!

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freddie Joined: Mar 04, 2010 Posts: 4 Russia	Posted on Mar 12 2012 03:54 PM Hello everyone! need your advise on the following axe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-umDszgGQio&feature=player_embedded I've found this one in mint condition for sale for $600, but it's announced as "made in taiwan", which sounds strange, taking in consideration the price, as I know MIJ SGV800s should cost about $900. Does anybody know if they're really produced in Taiwan or it's some kind of the clone? Thanks in advance Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Mar 12 2012 06:19 PM Hi freddie, welcome to SG101. I'm sure some one on the forum will be able to answer your questions better than myself, but i had a quick google and it does appear the SGV-800 is made in Taiwan as well as Japan. The video states it is a PSW which will be the variant of model. The Japanese always build some variants at a price points - less luxurious SGV-800's in this case type PSW. Last edited: Mar 12, 2012 18:20:56 Top
SpaceFargo Joined: Feb 18, 2010 Posts: 260 Lake Forest, CA	Posted on Mar 12 2012 10:16 PM My SGV 300 was made in Taiwan so it's probably legit. Plays and sounds great so don't let that dissuade you. — Hot Summer Comes Again! Let's Go Beach! Let's Go Beach! Top
Mr_Reverb63 Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 919 San Pablo, CA	Posted on Mar 13 2012 12:03 AM Its not a Clone, i think the Taiwan ones were meant to be distributed to countries other than Japan. While they keep the nicer made in japan ones :argh:. That's a really nice color though u should definitely go for it. i haven't seen one of those in that color pop up in a while. — -Zanti Instagram: My IG Combo Tezeta IG Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Mar 13 2012 10:31 AM I want to say they're all made in Taiwan, perhaps with the exception of those uber-pricey "Blue Jeans" models (can't confirm, as I've never saw one in person). I have a 700 that is a Japanese market only model, and it is also made in Taiwan. Yes, it's probably real, snatch that up! I have never seen an 800 in a white finish, LOVE it! — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
IvanP Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan	Posted on Mar 13 2012 10:50 AM What a strange young man playing the demo of that guitar, alternately very serious and kinda unhinged! I like how he says at one point "Do you vant to hear some Russian surf??" in English, and then plays some pretty cool licks! A beautiful guitar, though, for sure! Good luck! — Ivan Lords of Atlantis on Facebook The Madeira Official Website The Madeira on Facebook The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook The Space Cossacks on Facebook The Madeira Channel on YouTube Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Mar 13 2012 11:50 AM Yeah, I almost tuned out hearing those opening blues riffs, but I got a kick out of him too and found him to be an extremely competent player- the "Russian surf" was not very surfy, but still really interesting! — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
tiki101 Joined: Mar 22, 2009 Posts: 101 pgh, where the zombies live	Posted on Mar 14 2012 08:53 PM yep. my blue sparkle 800 was made in Taiwan. Totally beautiful, I think as well made as any Japanese guitar I've owned. You'll love it. Top
freddie Joined: Mar 04, 2010 Posts: 4 Russia	Posted on Mar 21 2012 07:27 AM Thanks, guys< I'm in contact with seller and he's ready to lower price a bit, so I hope I'll get it soon. Regarding person on video - as far I know that guys is a guitar player in progressive rock band, but he's more famous by his guitar reviews Strangely enough people in Russia in common just unable to realize what a nice guitar it's, as I can estimate 99.9% percent guitar players play heavy metal. Comments in Russian to the video are just ridiculous, the only excuse could be that SGV looks similar to USSR main brand - Ural guitars, which were just horrible, but most of people just had to play them as there were no choice. Image attached, it really looks like design was taken from Yamaha Top
Voodoocurse Joined: Jan 13, 2009 Posts: 53	Posted on Mar 21 2012 08:59 AM Impressingly tight jeans. MIT? Top
raito Joined: Oct 16, 2008 Posts: 551 Madison, WI	Posted on Mar 21 2012 11:08 AM Wahtever that guy's saying probably isn't as hilarious as what my mind is filling in... Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Mar 11 2018 01:44 AM IvanP wrote: What a strange young man playing the demo of that guitar, alternately very serious and kinda unhinged! I like how he says at one point "Do you vant to hear some Russian surf??" in English, and then plays some pretty cool licks! A beautiful guitar, though, for sure! Good luck! Tabachnikov’s manner seems typically intense for a young Russian dude. He also seems to really get the SGV’s feel and sound - its sproingy string tension that says ‘wank all across my neck’ and the midrangey bark reminisncent of a Strat but utterly different. It’s really a beast of another color. — Squink Out! Top
BasilK Joined: Apr 05, 2017 Posts: 31 Salt Lake City	Posted on Mar 11 2018 02:05 PM As a general matter, Yamaha opened up a factory in Taiwan in 1970 and produced guitars until 2008, when they moved production to China. Taiwanese Yamaha models were not "farmed out" to an secondary manufacturer like so so many other companies have done when moving operations to China for example. Yamaha built the plant to their specifications and trained staff to meet their high production standards. Taiwanese models shouldn't be dismissed as inferior as Yamaha is quite serious about quality control. I myself own a Yamaha SA-2100 made in Taiwan and it is excellent. When compared to the same Japanese made model, I couldn't tell any difference in quality or finish. I don't want to sound like a Yamaha commercial, but they really do put out excellent products for the money. Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Mar 12 2018 05:35 PM Taiwanese bike parts are the best, and this axe reminds me of a MIT Shimano derailleur mechanism. Lean and athletic, precisely cast and honed to exact tolerances. Nothing second-line about anything the Taiwanese do. — Squink Out! Top

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