Noel
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 10:02 AM
Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions. Interjecting a dose of sanity into my frequent over-enthusiasm, I've decided to buy a Yamaha PSR E333 with a sustain pedal. It will do everything I need from a keyboard (like first learning to play one) until I outgrow it, which take longer than I'll be laid up. I'll be better able to determine my long term keyboard, software, synthesizer, folley, composing, arranging, recording and mixing requirements after I'm back on guitar full-time.
Am I wrong?
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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Ariel
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Israel
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 12:26 PM
here's a list of Hammond B3 emulators I gathered:
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/b4-ii - Requires Kontakt software (free player available).
http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24 - Great company, also have a very convincing spring reverb.
http://masterhammond.syntheway.net/
http://www.tronsonic.com/#/organatron-m100/4558211425
http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/novachord
http://www.martinic.com/combov - free one
You can route them through a DAW (again, I recommend Reaper) to an amp simulation (many good free ones to have), and whatnot. Lots of fun, and learning on the way.
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 01:07 PM
Great. Thanks!
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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Ariel
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Israel
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 02:30 PM
You're welcome 
BTW I have personally played only with the first two on that list and they are awesome. The others look (sound actually) good too.
I'd suggest you start with free software all around, then you'll have a better idea where you wanna take this.
HERE's a nice resource.
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djangodeadman
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Brighton UK
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 02:46 PM
VB3, cheap and excellent. Also includes Vox Continental and Farfisa sounds, which are more surf (perhaps).
— Los Fantasticos
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 02:46 PM
I'm not sure the Yamaha PSR E333 is compatible with this. BUT I don't need it to be. If I stay with keyboards as a musical instrument next, and not just as a way keep learning while I'm incapacitated this year, I can step up.
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Ariel
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Israel
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 03:27 PM
Any keyboard is compatible, as long as it has USB or MIDI. Your PSR sure does. It probably has a driver you need to install, where you can tweak settings, presets etc. and also route the MIDI channels to whatever software you're using, meaning - what you play on whatever setting/preset/range on your keyboard is assigned a channel, you assign the synth software to the same channel and that's it.
Usually, with modern software the defaults are just right, without needeing to tweak anything. Once you get the hang of the basic principles, the rest is easy.
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 01 2012 04:40 PM
Ariel, that is great news. This is going to be fun. As I understand it, when I get a real handle on reading music and the rest, it will be a lot easier to learn guitar, and playing things on it will make a lot more sense. Plus, writing music will be a lot easier too. Maybe I'll even come up with something the internet surf band can work on.
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 02 2012 02:43 PM
I went into my music store today to confirm the order for the Yamaha PSR E333 and accessories like the sustain pedal. Someone was there buying an identical sustain pedal and he heard me talk about my surgery. He's had the same thing done several years ago. His shoulder is perfect now. That's the good news.
The less good news is his description of what it felt like when he awoke the next morning. And he said it took a lot of PT for a long time to get to 100 percent. That's okay. My shoulder is getting worse and worse every day. I can't use my left arm to drive for more than a few minutes, so I don't really have a choice.
So the keyboard and accessories are ordered and I bought my first piano music books and instructional DVD.
Everyone don't laugh or groan all at once, but I think I can learn the organ part for The Ventures' Red River Rock pretty quickly. Any surfier and just as easy ideas for the first few months?
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kenposurf
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Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Mar 02 2012 04:48 PM
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 02 2012 04:58 PM
That's great. A lot less sanitized than The Ventures version, but almost exactly the same.
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 02 2012 05:02 PM
It's a start. Any other ideas for a one-handed beginning keyboardist?
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norcalhodad
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Posted on Mar 02 2012 06:01 PM
—  > 
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 02 2012 07:41 PM
That's ... I said one-handed beginning keyboardist. And besides, I could NEVER grin like that.
... actually very interesting. I think I better stick to something simpler for a while.
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 03 2012 01:40 PM
I've added Out of Limits and Telstar to Red River Rock as my starter list. All three have essentially right-handed organ parts that don't seem too difficult to learn. Does anyone have something to recommend that's not almost as old as I am?
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Mar 03 2012 02:14 PM
Here is my favorite compact organ song,
Cry by the Love Me Nots: http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=78755872&ac=now
The keyboardist is absolutely fantastic.
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2858
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Mar 03 2012 02:42 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
Here is my favorite compact organ song,
Cry by the Love Me Nots:
http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=78755872&ac=now
The keyboardist is absolutely fantastic.
I absolutely LOATHE this band. As a musician, if you lived here in Phoenix, you'd probably feel the same way.
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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Matt22
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Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Mar 03 2012 02:47 PM
Here Noel, you don't have to lift the organ around, but this is good for one hand. 
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Mar 03 2012 03:08 PM
Matt22 wrote:
JakeDobner wrote:
Here is my favorite compact organ song,
Cry by the Love Me Nots:
http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=78755872&ac=now
The keyboardist is absolutely fantastic.
I absolutely LOATHE this band. As a musician, if you
lived here in Phoenix, you'd probably feel the same
way.
Yeah, I don't like them either actually. Their first album was alright but really I just really like that song. The rest of their songs are pretty much trite nostalgic bullshit.
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Noel
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Posted on Mar 03 2012 03:28 PM
The organ in this is just about right for me.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WpRnjxuBys Cool song too.
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