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StormStaicSleeping Dude,
If it were me doing the spending (and saving) I would
DEFINATELY fill up the old piggy-bank until you had enough
clams to pop for the real-deal: the Fender Tank.
I played for years and years and years using my on-board
reverb and a variety of pedals...but, the day my Fender
Reverb arrived I was in freaking NIRVANNA! No lie...it's
that good. It's worth evey peso. On that first day I
played like six hours straight, and even wanted to take my
new Reverb Unit to bed with me.
As far as vibrato, I am as I write, listening to The Blue
Stingrays...and their vibrato sounds sweet. I have a lame
digital multi-effect that has vibrato...but, it doesn't
"pulse" and "swell"like I want it to...the Blue Stingrays
vibrato 'swells' and "pulses" just right...I bet it even
smells right, like good old equipment should smell.
I have a cool old Wurlitzer Organ in the music room...its
vibrato is produced by one of those old-fashioned spinning
Leslie-style speaker deals...it sounds awesome, but I can't
put my guitar through it.
Anyone out there use a Leslie-speaker style vibrato? Is it
worth my time and effort to get a Leslie-speaker setup for
my old Bassman-Reverb-setup?
Any suggestions for analog and/or digital vibrato(or
tremolo) effects? Did they make an outboard analog
vibrato(or tremolo) back in the olden days?
inquiring minds would like to know.
-dp
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>
> So I am thinking of getting a Danelectro and Digitech
> reverb pedal and
> using both at the same time. Is that worth ir or should
> i just save
> up another 200 for a tank. Also, are vibrato pedals not
> needed?
> Because only reverb and tremelo pedals have been
> reccomended. Thanks
> again.
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I agree, either go for cheap (one cheapo digiverb and leave it at
that) or save up to go for the real thing.
buying more then one reverb pedal seems a like a waste of money. and
you'll end up spending a lot of little amounts to never get 'that'
sound.
as far as vibrato and tremolo are concerned, get sure what you want,
volume-shift or pitch shift. volume shift (tremolo) has been dealt
with in this thread, for vibrato; peronally i don't like those
pedals, because they always seem to clean/neat to my ears. make sure
your whammybar is wel set up (not too stiff, not too wobly) and start
practicing, it is not that difficult, and sounds a lot better.
my 2cts
wannes
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> StormStaicSleeping Dude,
>
> If it were me doing the spending (and saving) I would
> DEFINATELY fill up the old piggy-bank until you had enough
> clams to pop for the real-deal: the Fender Tank.
>
> I played for years and years and years using my on-board
> reverb and a variety of pedals...but, the day my Fender
> Reverb arrived I was in freaking NIRVANNA! No lie...it's
> that good. It's worth evey peso. On that first day I
> played like six hours straight, and even wanted to take my
> new Reverb Unit to bed with me.
>
> As far as vibrato, I am as I write, listening to The Blue
> Stingrays...and their vibrato sounds sweet. I have a lame
> digital multi-effect that has vibrato...but, it doesn't
> "pulse" and "swell"like I want it to...the Blue Stingrays
> vibrato 'swells' and "pulses" just right...I bet it even
> smells right, like good old equipment should smell.
>
> I have a cool old Wurlitzer Organ in the music room...its
> vibrato is produced by one of those old-fashioned spinning
> Leslie-style speaker deals...it sounds awesome, but I can't
> put my guitar through it.
>
> Anyone out there use a Leslie-speaker style vibrato? Is it
> worth my time and effort to get a Leslie-speaker setup for
> my old Bassman-Reverb-setup?
>
> Any suggestions for analog and/or digital vibrato(or
> tremolo) effects? Did they make an outboard analog
> vibrato(or tremolo) back in the olden days?
>
> inquiring minds would like to know.
>
> -dp
> --- storm_static_sleep <storm_static_sleep@y...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So I am thinking of getting a Danelectro and Digitech
> > reverb pedal and
> > using both at the same time. Is that worth ir or should
> > i just save
> > up another 200 for a tank. Also, are vibrato pedals not
> > needed?
> > Because only reverb and tremelo pedals have been
> > reccomended. Thanks
> > again.
> >
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--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> Any suggestions for analog and/or digital vibrato(or
> tremolo) effects? Did they make an outboard analog
> vibrato(or tremolo) back in the olden days?
>
> inquiring minds would like to know.
>
> -dp
If you're looking for something like the spinning Leslie cabinet
that's old-school, you could try the Uni-Vibe, if you can find a used
one.
Jimi Hendrix used a Uni-Vibe, which has a pedal to control the rate of
vibe effect. Modern versions are like the Voodoo Lab Micro Vibe
pedal. From what I've heard, the Micro Vibe is the one to beat. I've
messed with one, and they do sound good.
Voodoo Labs also makes a tremolo that's pretty good too:
Thundr Rojo:
Oh yeah...I totally forgot about those cool old UniVibe
pedals...I will look into them...
I like the old "tremolo" effect (volume shift)...not
"Vibrato" (pitch shift)...the "tremolo" bridge on my guitar
takes care of pitch changes...
we have good old Fender to thank for all this confusing
tremolo/vibrato confusion...
dp
--- red_thundr <> wrote:
>
>
> --- In , DP <noetical1@y...>
> wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions for analog and/or digital vibrato(or
> > tremolo) effects? Did they make an outboard analog
> > vibrato(or tremolo) back in the olden days?
> >
> > inquiring minds would like to know.
> >
> > -dp
>
> If you're looking for something like the spinning Leslie
> cabinet
> that's old-school, you could try the Uni-Vibe, if you can
> find a used
> one.
>
>
>
> Jimi Hendrix used a Uni-Vibe, which has a pedal to
> control the rate of
> vibe effect. Modern versions are like the Voodoo Lab
> Micro Vibe
> pedal. From what I've heard, the Micro Vibe is the one
> to beat. I've
> messed with one, and they do sound good.
>
>
>
> Voodoo Labs also makes a tremolo that's pretty good too:
>
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Yeah, even worse, there is no consistency between manufacturers
either.
Tremolo: cyclic volume shift
Vibrato: cyclic pitch shift
Not sure what exactly to call the Uni-Vibe, it's kind of halfway
between both, but not really. There is a distinct difference between
the sound of a Uni-Vibe and a Tremolo and Vibrato. In order to get a
simulated rotating speaker effect, I think the Uni-Vibe type effects
also do some flanging/phasing on the sound. Strictly speaking, a
tremolo does not give you the same type of 'swirling' sound that you
get with a Uni-Vibe-type effect. Voodoo Labs makes both types of
effects, the "Micro Vibe" and the "Tremolo". Personally, I don't
think you could go wrong with the "Micro Vibe", other than it doesn't
have an external pedal to control the vibe rate.
Good luck finding something that works for you...
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
>
> Thundr Rojo:
>
> Oh yeah...I totally forgot about those cool old UniVibe
> pedals...I will look into them...
>
> I like the old "tremolo" effect (volume shift)...not
> "Vibrato" (pitch shift)...the "tremolo" bridge on my guitar
> takes care of pitch changes...
>
> we have good old Fender to thank for all this confusing
> tremolo/vibrato confusion...
>
> dp
>
I felt the same way when I got my Victoria Reverberato, three knob reverb is
awesome. The tremolo on the Reverberato was fashioned after the "harmonic
tremolo" circuit of Fender's brownface era amps (ie Concert).
For Vibrato, I acquired a Matchless TV-1. The vibrato on the Matchless has the
sound of the old Magnatones, actually stonger/better.
Yes they were both expensive, but worth the price of admission and built to last
a lifetime.
Bryan
Uni-Vibes are something I know a little bit about. I make one called
the Mojo Vibe. You can check it out here
The Uni-Vibe was an early attempt at simulating a Leslie speaker. It
failed terribly at that but it did give rise to a whole new sound.
It's nothing more than a 4 stage phase shifter, with frequency tuned
sections and a strange asymetrical sweep. The result is very "watery"
sounding phase. One added advantage of a "vibe" circuit is that it
also does a killer vibrato. Just switch it to vibrato mode and it
gets
really wild. But it also can be dialed down for more sane effect.
Some famous songs that featured a Uni-Vibe are,
Breath - Pink Floyd
Bridge of Sighs - Robin Trower
Just about all of the Woodstock concert of Hendrix
The sax solo on "Wild Night's" by Van Morrison
As for the Vibrato sound "Hey Baby" by Hendrix on the Rainbow Bridge
Album was done using the vibato mode.
BTW, the Micro Vibe will not do vibrato.
Bob
This is interesting info, Bob. What do you mean by the term "4-stage" when you
describe the Univibe? Is that common among other phase shifters, for instance,
is the MXR Phase 90 a 4-stage phase shifter?
I like the sound sample of your Mojo Vibe.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Sweet
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:37 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Pedal reccomendations, please. (Vibrato)
Uni-Vibes are something I know a little bit about. I make one called
the Mojo Vibe. You can check it out here
The Uni-Vibe was an early attempt at simulating a Leslie speaker. It
failed terribly at that but it did give rise to a whole new sound.
It's nothing more than a 4 stage phase shifter, with frequency tuned
sections and a strange asymetrical sweep. The result is very "watery"
sounding phase. One added advantage of a "vibe" circuit is that it
also does a killer vibrato. Just switch it to vibrato mode and it
gets
really wild. But it also can be dialed down for more sane effect.
Some famous songs that featured a Uni-Vibe are,
Breath - Pink Floyd
Bridge of Sighs - Robin Trower
Just about all of the Woodstock concert of Hendrix
The sax solo on "Wild Night's" by Van Morrison
As for the Vibrato sound "Hey Baby" by Hendrix on the Rainbow Bridge
Album was done using the vibato mode.
BTW, the Micro Vibe will not do vibrato.
Bob
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Bob:
thanks for the killer tip. I'm definately looking for a
cool "old school" Fender-sounding tremolo/vibrato type
effect. Something lush and full and capable of subtle
variations. I'm mostly a straight-ahead Fender Bassman amp
+ Reverb Unit type of surf player...but a little "pulse"
would be a nice addition to my sound and creative spirit.
I will look into your device.
thanks again
-dp
--- Bob Sweet <> wrote:
>
>
> Uni-Vibes are something I know a little bit about. I make
> one called
> the Mojo Vibe. You can check it out here
>
>
> The Uni-Vibe was an early attempt at simulating a Leslie
> speaker. It
> failed terribly at that but it did give rise to a whole
> new sound.
> It's nothing more than a 4 stage phase shifter, with
> frequency tuned
> sections and a strange asymetrical sweep. The result is
> very "watery"
> sounding phase. One added advantage of a "vibe" circuit
> is that it
> also does a killer vibrato. Just switch it to vibrato
> mode and it
> gets
> really wild. But it also can be dialed down for more sane
> effect.
> Some famous songs that featured a Uni-Vibe are,
> Breath - Pink Floyd
> Bridge of Sighs - Robin Trower
> Just about all of the Woodstock concert of Hendrix
> The sax solo on "Wild Night's" by Van Morrison
> As for the Vibrato sound "Hey Baby" by Hendrix on the
> Rainbow Bridge
> Album was done using the vibato mode.
> BTW, the Micro Vibe will not do vibrato.
>
> Bob
>
>
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Thanks Marty, Much appreciated. A lot of the popular Phasers out there
are 4 stage (Phase 90, Mutron, most Boss, DOD. etc..) Then you had
stuff like the Phase 45 that was 2 stage. 4 stages will get you 2
notches in the frequency sweep and 2 stages will get you 1. Of course
you have others (Moog) that are 6 and/or 8 stage. But the real heart
of a Uni-Vibe circuit is the "wobble" or "heartbeat" in the frquency
sweep. Without that, it's just another phaser. It's not for everyone,
but it is a cool effect.
Bob
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> This is interesting info, Bob. What do you mean by the term "4-
stage" when you describe the Univibe? Is that common among other phase
shifters, for instance, is the MXR Phase 90 a 4-stage phase shifter?
>
> I like the sound sample of your Mojo Vibe.
>
> -Marty
