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Re: Strats and Overdrives

Dana and Roberta Vincent (dana_l_vincent) - 02 Nov 2001 11:23:06

Thanks very much for the nice compliment, Brian! The first track
originated from a Bob McInturff bass line. One day I got tired of
listening to him warm up on it, and started writing the melody lines.
Bill and Steve added their own touches to the tune, and "Hot Curl" was
born. I play the lead with a Strat set on the middle-pickup position,
routed through a Tech 21 Comptortion pedal. Bill also plays a Strat,
with his favorite pickup setting being the bridge-middle. I am still
searching for the ideal overdrive (no loss of clarity, but nice
"singing" sustain), and lately am running a Blackstone Mosfet Overdrive
(low gain, shut off for rhythm chores) through a KLON pedal (high
volume, very low gain) with reasonably good results. I would be very
interested in learning what pedals (overdrive or otherwise) people on
the list use. Yeah, I know a cranked amp with hot pickups is the purist
way to go, but we can't always play at 120db!
Best regards, Dana Vincent
Brian Neal wrote:
> Hi Dana,
>
> I am very glad you joined! I'm here to learn and having guys of your
> caliber
> on board means we are off to a good start.
>
> I just listened to your (Splashback's) 2nd CD the other day. I really
> like
> that opening track. You and Bill must play Strats?
>
> Thanks,
>
> BN
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urbansurfkings - 02 Nov 2001 12:39:20

Hi Dana,
I sometimes use one of those Boss overdrive/distortion pedals for
a bit of crunch at small venues. The drive dial is close to 0, and
the volume set slightly higher than the clean amp sound. The tone
depends on the room, and the overdrive/distortion dial is set at
about 9 o'clock.
Other than that it's just the reverb tank, and the vibrasonic.
Any suggestions for that Davie Allan tone in a pedal. Someone
should market a Davie Allan biker fuzz box!!!
Mr. Mumps/ Urban Surf Kings
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Dana and Roberta Vincent <splashbk@d...>
wrote:
> Thanks very much for the nice compliment, Brian! The first track
> originated from a Bob McInturff bass line. One day I got tired of
> listening to him warm up on it, and started writing the melody
lines.
> Bill and Steve added their own touches to the tune, and "Hot Curl"
was
> born. I play the lead with a Strat set on the middle-pickup
position,
> routed through a Tech 21 Comptortion pedal. Bill also plays a
Strat,
> with his favorite pickup setting being the bridge-middle. I am
still
> searching for the ideal overdrive (no loss of clarity, but nice
> "singing" sustain), and lately am running a Blackstone Mosfet
Overdrive
> (low gain, shut off for rhythm chores) through a KLON pedal (high
> volume, very low gain) with reasonably good results. I would be
very
> interested in learning what pedals (overdrive or otherwise) people
on
> the list use. Yeah, I know a cranked amp with hot pickups is the
purist
> way to go, but we can't always play at 120db!
>
> Best regards, Dana Vincent
>

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Phil Kucer - 02 Nov 2001 13:23:47

I saw Los Straightjackets last Friday and it looked like Danny had a new
Ibanez fuzz. Very cool sound. Has anyone heard any of the new Danelectro
60's pedals? Very interesting...
---------
Surf's Up
Phil Tiki <----------Look! I changed my name!
www.thetikihut.com
The Tiki Hut
Internet Surf Radio
> From:
> Reply-To:
> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:39:20 -0000
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Strats and Overdrives
>
> Hi Dana,
> I sometimes use one of those Boss overdrive/distortion pedals for
> a bit of crunch at small venues. The drive dial is close to 0, and
> the volume set slightly higher than the clean amp sound. The tone
> depends on the room, and the overdrive/distortion dial is set at
> about 9 o'clock.
> Other than that it's just the reverb tank, and the vibrasonic.
> Any suggestions for that Davie Allan tone in a pedal. Someone
> should market a Davie Allan biker fuzz box!!!
>
> Mr. Mumps/ Urban Surf Kings
>
> --- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Dana and Roberta Vincent <splashbk@d...>
> wrote:
>> Thanks very much for the nice compliment, Brian! The first track
>> originated from a Bob McInturff bass line. One day I got tired of
>> listening to him warm up on it, and started writing the melody
> lines.
>> Bill and Steve added their own touches to the tune, and "Hot Curl"
> was
>> born. I play the lead with a Strat set on the middle-pickup
> position,
>> routed through a Tech 21 Comptortion pedal. Bill also plays a
> Strat,
>> with his favorite pickup setting being the bridge-middle. I am
> still
>> searching for the ideal overdrive (no loss of clarity, but nice
>> "singing" sustain), and lately am running a Blackstone Mosfet
> Overdrive
>> (low gain, shut off for rhythm chores) through a KLON pedal (high
>> volume, very low gain) with reasonably good results. I would be
> very
>> interested in learning what pedals (overdrive or otherwise) people
> on
>> the list use. Yeah, I know a cranked amp with hot pickups is the
> purist
>> way to go, but we can't always play at 120db!
>>
>> Best regards, Dana Vincent
>>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>
>
>
>
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>
>

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cowboy_playing_dead - 02 Nov 2001 13:51:17

Danelectro has a sitar pedal out, and reverse delay pedal...Not sure
what a reverse delay would do. As for distortion pedals, my band
desn't use any. They never seem to sound good in our style of surf.
Our guitarist just goes straight through a fender amp, with a bit of
the built in gain. We do use the danelectro danecho, and the
danelectro tuna melt sometimes along with the amps built in spring
reverb turned up to 10. Oh, I use 13 gauge strings as well.
chris

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mctippens - 02 Nov 2001 14:26:03

Hey Phil
I also understand that DOD is putting out a '60's style fuzz very soon.
Marty
> I saw Los Straightjackets last Friday and it looked like Danny had a new
> Ibanez fuzz. Very cool sound. Has anyone heard any of the new Danelectro
> 60's pedals? Very interesting...
>
>
>
>
> ---------
> Surf's Up
> Phil Tiki <----------Look! I changed my name!
> www.thetikihut.com
> The Tiki Hut
> Internet Surf Radio
>
>
>
>
> > From:
> > Reply-To:
> > Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:39:20 -0000
> > To:
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Strats and Overdrives
> >
> > Hi Dana,
> > I sometimes use one of those Boss overdrive/distortion pedals for
> > a bit of crunch at small venues. The drive dial is close to 0, and
> > the volume set slightly higher than the clean amp sound. The tone
> > depends on the room, and the overdrive/distortion dial is set at
> > about 9 o'clock.
> > Other than that it's just the reverb tank, and the vibrasonic.
> > Any suggestions for that Davie Allan tone in a pedal. Someone
> > should market a Davie Allan biker fuzz box!!!
> >
> > Mr. Mumps/ Urban Surf Kings
> >
> > --- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Dana and Roberta Vincent <splashbk@d...>
> > wrote:
> >> Thanks very much for the nice compliment, Brian! The first track
> >> originated from a Bob McInturff bass line. One day I got tired of
> >> listening to him warm up on it, and started writing the melody
> > lines.
> >> Bill and Steve added their own touches to the tune, and "Hot Curl"
> > was
> >> born. I play the lead with a Strat set on the middle-pickup
> > position,
> >> routed through a Tech 21 Comptortion pedal. Bill also plays a
> > Strat,
> >> with his favorite pickup setting being the bridge-middle. I am
> > still
> >> searching for the ideal overdrive (no loss of clarity, but nice
> >> "singing" sustain), and lately am running a Blackstone Mosfet
> > Overdrive
> >> (low gain, shut off for rhythm chores) through a KLON pedal (high
> >> volume, very low gain) with reasonably good results. I would be
> > very
> >> interested in learning what pedals (overdrive or otherwise) people
> > on
> >> the list use. Yeah, I know a cranked amp with hot pickups is the
> > purist
> >> way to go, but we can't always play at 120db!
> >>
> >> Best regards, Dana Vincent
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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R.F.D. (twangstring) - 02 Nov 2001 17:36:36

Geez, I've tried SO many overdrives (like most of y'all, I'd guess).
The one I keep coming back to, that I currently use, is that cheap
$40 Nobels ODR-1. Doesn't change my tone much, if at all, but puts a
nice buttery smooth fat edge to it. I run a coupla assembled Strats
and a cloned Musiclander (all gits use combinations of noiseless
Lawrence L290 and L490 pickups) into the Nobels ODR-1, patched to a
VS Liguid H2O (chorus/delay), and split out and into two amps (Carvin
Nomad & Blues Jr). A very nice "new age" surf tone - or bluez or
jazz or whatever.
In any event, it's rare to be able to crank an amp or two all the way
up these dayze, so having amp master volumes and front end overdrive
pedals is THE way to go for good tone at sane volumes. YMMV. Rob.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
wrote:
> Thanks very much for the nice compliment, Brian! The first track
> originated from a Bob McInturff bass line. One day I got tired of
> listening to him warm up on it, and started writing the melody
lines.
> Bill and Steve added their own touches to the tune, and "Hot Curl"
was
> born. I play the lead with a Strat set on the middle-pickup
position,
> routed through a Tech 21 Comptortion pedal. Bill also plays a
Strat,
> with his favorite pickup setting being the bridge-middle. I am
still
> searching for the ideal overdrive (no loss of clarity, but nice
> "singing" sustain), and lately am running a Blackstone Mosfet
Overdrive
> (low gain, shut off for rhythm chores) through a KLON pedal (high
> volume, very low gain) with reasonably good results. I would be
very
> interested in learning what pedals (overdrive or otherwise) people
on
> the list use. Yeah, I know a cranked amp with hot pickups is the
purist
> way to go, but we can't always play at 120db!
>
> Best regards, Dana Vincent

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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 02 Nov 2001 17:37:03

Hi Phil,
Were LS playing their DiPinto guitars?
BN
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Phil Kucer <philx@m...> wrote:
> I saw Los Straightjackets last Friday and it looked like Danny had
a new
> Ibanez fuzz. Very cool sound. Has anyone heard any of the new
Danelectro
> 60's pedals? Very interesting...
>
>
>
>
> ---------
> Surf's Up
> Phil Tiki <----------Look! I changed my name!
> www.thetikihut.com
> The Tiki Hut
> Internet Surf Radio
>
>

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Andrew Z. (avzay55) - 02 Nov 2001 17:59:55

I have to agree on nobels. Its a great and cheap pedal. I have one and it
sounds great.
>Geez, I've tried SO many overdrives (like most of y'all, I'd guess).
>The one I keep coming back to, that I currently use, is that cheap
>$40 Nobels ODR-1. Doesn't change my tone much, if at all, but puts a
>nice buttery smooth fat edge to it. I run a coupla assembled Strats
>and a cloned Musiclander (all gits use combinations of noiseless
>Lawrence L290 and L490 pickups) into the Nobels ODR-1, patched to a
>VS Liguid H2O (chorus/delay), and split out and into two amps (Carvin
>Nomad & Blues Jr). A very nice "new age" surf tone - or bluez or
>jazz or whatever.
>
>In any event, it's rare to be able to crank an amp or two all the way
>up these dayze, so having amp master volumes and front end overdrive
>pedals is THE way to go for good tone at sane volumes. YMMV. Rob.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>wrote:
> > Thanks very much for the nice compliment, Brian! The first track
> > originated from a Bob McInturff bass line. One day I got tired of
> > listening to him warm up on it, and started writing the melody
>lines.
> > Bill and Steve added their own touches to the tune, and "Hot Curl"
>was
> > born. I play the lead with a Strat set on the middle-pickup
>position,
> > routed through a Tech 21 Comptortion pedal. Bill also plays a
>Strat,
> > with his favorite pickup setting being the bridge-middle. I am
>still
> > searching for the ideal overdrive (no loss of clarity, but nice
> > "singing" sustain), and lately am running a Blackstone Mosfet
>Overdrive
> > (low gain, shut off for rhythm chores) through a KLON pedal (high
> > volume, very low gain) with reasonably good results. I would be
>very
> > interested in learning what pedals (overdrive or otherwise) people
>on
> > the list use. Yeah, I know a cranked amp with hot pickups is the
>purist
> > way to go, but we can't always play at 120db!
> >
> > Best regards, Dana Vincent
>
>
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Phil Kucer - 02 Nov 2001 18:10:52

Yes. Danny even broke a string. First time I ever saw that. I have to give
those guys credit. Not only are they awesome musicians AND they but on a
great show, but they do everything themselves. Danny changed his own
string. It was kinda mind-blowing for a band of that caliber.
Phil
---------
Surf's Up
Phil Tiki <----------Look! I changed my name!
www.thetikihut.com
The Tiki Hut
Internet Surf Radio
> From: "Brian Neal" <>
> Reply-To:
> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 23:37:03 -0000
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Strats and Overdrives
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> Were LS playing their DiPinto guitars?
>
> BN
>
> --- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Phil Kucer <philx@m...> wrote:
>> I saw Los Straightjackets last Friday and it looked like Danny had
> a new
>> Ibanez fuzz. Very cool sound. Has anyone heard any of the new
> Danelectro
>> 60's pedals? Very interesting...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------
>> Surf's Up
>> Phil Tiki <----------Look! I changed my name!
>> www.thetikihut.com
>> The Tiki Hut
>> Internet Surf Radio
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
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Brian Schultz (n2longboards) - 02 Nov 2001 22:04:12

Davie Allan actually uses a Rat! He told me he used to use a
Mosrite FuzzRite (which is what I have, only mine's a re-issue by
Sanner.) For Overdrive I like my Fulldrive II also I have a ZVex
Super Hard On which is really great too!
Brian
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., surfkings@h... wrote:
> Hi Dana,
> I sometimes use one of those Boss overdrive/distortion
pedals for
> a bit of crunch at small venues. The drive dial is close to 0, and
> the volume set slightly higher than the clean amp sound. The
tone
> depends on the room, and the overdrive/distortion dial is set at
> about 9 o'clock.
> Other than that it's just the reverb tank, and the vibrasonic.
> Any suggestions for that Davie Allan tone in a pedal.
Someone
> should market a Davie Allan biker fuzz box!!!
>
> Mr. Mumps/ Urban Surf Kings
>
> --- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Dana and Roberta Vincent
<splashbk@d...>
> wrote:
> > Thanks very much for the nice compliment, Brian! The first
track
> > originated from a Bob McInturff bass line. One day I got tired
of
> > listening to him warm up on it, and started writing the melody
> lines.
> > Bill and Steve added their own touches to the tune, and "Hot
Curl"
> was
> > born. I play the lead with a Strat set on the middle-pickup
> position,
> > routed through a Tech 21 Comptortion pedal. Bill also plays
a
> Strat,
> > with his favorite pickup setting being the bridge-middle. I am
> still
> > searching for the ideal overdrive (no loss of clarity, but nice
> > "singing" sustain), and lately am running a Blackstone
Mosfet
> Overdrive
> > (low gain, shut off for rhythm chores) through a KLON pedal
(high
> > volume, very low gain) with reasonably good results. I would
be
> very
> > interested in learning what pedals (overdrive or otherwise)
people
> on
> > the list use. Yeah, I know a cranked amp with hot pickups is
the
> purist
> > way to go, but we can't always play at 120db!
> >
> > Best regards, Dana Vincent
> >

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