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I have a reissue Fender Jaguar. The problem that I've always had with
it, is that the tremolo barely dips at all. It can really only be used
to add vibrato, instead of tremolo dives. I havent played on any other
Jaguars before, so I'm not sure if thats the way they are supposed to
be, or if something needs to be corrected on mine. If so, please let
me know. I would appreciate any input.
Thanks,
Here's what I did on my CIJ. I sawed off a small amount from the
bottom of the trem arm. What you have to be careful of is that you
don't take too MUCH off. When you've finished take a file around the
edges to take the burrs off.
I've also heard of guys cutting the cavity deeper, but I lacked the
modern resources to do that.
Bill
--- In , "Tyler" <surfguitar55@y...>
wrote:
>
> I have a reissue Fender Jaguar. The problem that I've always had
with
> it, is that the tremolo barely dips at all. It can really only be
used
> to add vibrato, instead of tremolo dives. I havent played on any
other
> Jaguars before, so I'm not sure if thats the way they are supposed
to
> be, or if something needs to be corrected on mine. If so, please let
> me know. I would appreciate any input.
>
> Thanks,
I'm not getting this, Bill. You get more dive out of a vibrato arm by shortening
the part where it plugs into the bridge? I would think one would just try to
bend the arm to give it a greater angle (hoping not to break the arm in the
process).
-Marty
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From: supertwangreverb
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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:00 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Jaguar Tremolo Question
Here's what I did on my CIJ. I sawed off a small amount from the
bottom of the trem arm. What you have to be careful of is that you
don't take too MUCH off. When you've finished take a file around the
edges to take the burrs off.
I've also heard of guys cutting the cavity deeper, but I lacked the
modern resources to do that.
Bill
--- In , "Tyler" <surfguitar55@y...>
wrote:
>
> I have a reissue Fender Jaguar. The problem that I've always had
with
> it, is that the tremolo barely dips at all. It can really only be
used
> to add vibrato, instead of tremolo dives. I havent played on any
other
> Jaguars before, so I'm not sure if thats the way they are supposed
to
> be, or if something needs to be corrected on mine. If so, please let
> me know. I would appreciate any input.
>
> Thanks,
.
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The CIJ models, for the most part, have had trem arms that bottom out
in the body cavity when you press down on them. I've shortned the
actual part of the arm that plugs into the trem unit.
When I start using flatwounds 13s, I noticed the problem had gotten
worse. So I took the trem unit off and noticed the trem arm stuck
through the collet more than I thought necessary for the unit to
function. I don't remember how much I sawed off, but once I did this
I was able to get the arm to dip twice as far.
Bill
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> I'm not getting this, Bill. You get more dive out of a vibrato arm
by shortening the part where it plugs into the bridge? I would think
one would just try to bend the arm to give it a greater angle (hoping
not to break the arm in the process).
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: supertwangreverb
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:00 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Jaguar Tremolo Question
>
>
>
> Here's what I did on my CIJ. I sawed off a small amount from the
> bottom of the trem arm. What you have to be careful of is that
you
> don't take too MUCH off. When you've finished take a file around
the
> edges to take the burrs off.
>
> I've also heard of guys cutting the cavity deeper, but I lacked
the
> modern resources to do that.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> --- In , "Tyler" <surfguitar55@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have a reissue Fender Jaguar. The problem that I've always
had
> with
> > it, is that the tremolo barely dips at all. It can really only
be
> used
> > to add vibrato, instead of tremolo dives. I havent played on
any
> other
> > Jaguars before, so I'm not sure if thats the way they are
supposed
> to
> > be, or if something needs to be corrected on mine. If so,
please let
> > me know. I would appreciate any input.
> >
> > Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
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I"ve been messing with a jap jazzmaster for a while and I can push
the bar all the way to the pickguard. But it still does not have the
range of my amer standard stat. Miller
--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> The CIJ models, for the most part, have had trem arms that bottom
out
> in the body cavity when you press down on them. I've shortned the
> actual part of the arm that plugs into the trem unit.
>
> When I start using flatwounds 13s, I noticed the problem had gotten
> worse. So I took the trem unit off and noticed the trem arm stuck
> through the collet more than I thought necessary for the unit to
> function. I don't remember how much I sawed off, but once I did
this
> I was able to get the arm to dip twice as far.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > I'm not getting this, Bill. You get more dive out of a vibrato
arm
> by shortening the part where it plugs into the bridge? I would
think
> one would just try to bend the arm to give it a greater angle
(hoping
> not to break the arm in the process).
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: supertwangreverb
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:00 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Jaguar Tremolo Question
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's what I did on my CIJ. I sawed off a small amount from
the
> > bottom of the trem arm. What you have to be careful of is that
> you
> > don't take too MUCH off. When you've finished take a file
around
> the
> > edges to take the burrs off.
> >
> > I've also heard of guys cutting the cavity deeper, but I lacked
> the
> > modern resources to do that.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Tyler"
<surfguitar55@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a reissue Fender Jaguar. The problem that I've always
> had
> > with
> > > it, is that the tremolo barely dips at all. It can really
only
> be
> > used
> > > to add vibrato, instead of tremolo dives. I havent played on
> any
> > other
> > > Jaguars before, so I'm not sure if thats the way they are
> supposed
> > to
> > > be, or if something needs to be corrected on mine. If so,
> please let
> > > me know. I would appreciate any input.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--- In , "Tyler" <surfguitar55@y...>
wrote:
> I have a reissue Fender Jaguar. The problem that I've always had
with it, is that the tremolo barely dips at all...
That's just the way Jaguar and Jazzmaster trems are--- they've got
nowhere near the pitch range of the Strat trem. The Strat design has
more than the JM or Jag, but none of these axes were really intended
to give more than a little Hawaiian guitar-style vibrato. They were
designed WAY before guys like Hendrix started with the extreme dive-
bomb stuff (and he happened to be doing it on a Strat).
To me it seems worse with heavier strings, I guess because thinner
strings produce more pitch variation for a given amount of bend or
tension change. Coincidentally I just switched my CIJ Jag
from .013's down to .011's this weekend and am getting a kick out of
the increased snap and twang from thin strings on a short-scale axe.
By the way, I assume you've got the trem spring adjusted so that the
mechanism floats just at the point where it's captured when you slide
the trem-lock button forward (preventing any upbend). If it's below
that point when it's at rest, you've already lost some of the
downward travel, so that's worth checking. If you've switched the
guitar from light-gauge strings to heavier ones without adjusting
this, that could be what's wrong and the arm will be too low.
Solution is to tighten the trem screw to counteract the increased
string tension (which will bring the arm up).
Hope that helps,
Rob Woolsey
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