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> Looks like this is the one for Jaguars:
>
>
>
These pictures have been really bothering me for some time, and I couldn't
quite put my finger on it, until now. Maybe it's just me, but these bodies
look just a little too bit squished. The lower bout especially looks wrong.
It's too pregnant looking. My American reissue seems to have a much taller
upper horn and a less pronounced lower bout. In general, it seems to be a
bit more sleeker and less "fatter" looking around the lower part. Can anyone
else with an AV RI or vintage Jag comment?
Also, for those of you with Japanese Jaguars/Jazzmasters, do your bridge
saddles have all the same groove widths? Or do you have multiple (3) sizes?
It's my understanding that vintage Jags/JM's had varying sized saddles, at
least during certain years. The AV RI's have all the same size, and the low
E saddle isn't quite wide enough.
Thanks,
BN
BN,
My Japanese Jazzmaster has three different-sized barrels. As I've often noted
here, you
can refit the Jag or Jazz bridge with either Mustang saddles or Graphtech
saddles a
Mustang bridge isn't necessary, since the only difference is the barrels. The
saddles will
help with the buzzing, but not so much as the Buzzstop, which I installed on my
Jazz.
I don't know how the AV Jags and Jazz bodies compare with the vintage, can't do
an A/B,
but I did play a vintage and Jap Jag side-by-side once, and the vintage felt
more solid and
comfortable. But, all-in-all, I didn't feel or hear a HUGE difference.
I have a new Surf Guitar custom job I am building...can't wait to show it to the
group!
Gavin
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...> wrote:
> > Looks like this is the one for Jaguars:
> >
> >
> >
>
> These pictures have been really bothering me for some time, and I couldn't
> quite put my finger on it, until now. Maybe it's just me, but these bodies
> look just a little too bit squished. The lower bout especially looks wrong.
> It's too pregnant looking. My American reissue seems to have a much taller
> upper horn and a less pronounced lower bout. In general, it seems to be a
> bit more sleeker and less "fatter" looking around the lower part. Can anyone
> else with an AV RI or vintage Jag comment?
>
> Also, for those of you with Japanese Jaguars/Jazzmasters, do your bridge
> saddles have all the same groove widths? Or do you have multiple (3) sizes?
>
> It's my understanding that vintage Jags/JM's had varying sized saddles, at
> least during certain years. The AV RI's have all the same size, and the low
> E saddle isn't quite wide enough.
>
> Thanks,
>
> BN
I did a side-by-side comparison of some photos of vintage, AV and Jap bodies...I
don't see
a difference. Bear in mind, photos can distort things depending on the lens
used. A wide-
angle lens would tend to distort the image and make it rounder and more
pregnant, while
a telephoto would make it look somewhat sleeker. I could be wrong, but wanted to
point
out the effect of photography, since I am a photographer.
Are we gear-geeks or what?
Gavin
My American reissue seems to have a much taller
> > upper horn and a less pronounced lower bout. In general, it seems to be a
> > bit more sleeker and less "fatter" looking around the lower part. Can anyone
> > else with an AV RI or vintage Jag comment?
> >
> > Also, for those of you with Japanese Jaguars/Jazzmasters, do your bridge
> > saddles have all the same groove widths? Or do you have multiple (3) sizes?
> >
> > It's my understanding that vintage Jags/JM's had varying sized saddles, at
> > least during certain years. The AV RI's have all the same size, and the low
> > E saddle isn't quite wide enough.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BN
Did you only put a buzzstop on the Jazz or did you put mustang saddles
as well?
--- In , "Gavin Ehringer"
<gavinehringer@e...> wrote:
>
> BN,
> My Japanese Jazzmaster has three different-sized barrels. As I've
often noted here, you
> can refit the Jag or Jazz bridge with either Mustang saddles or
Graphtech saddles a
> Mustang bridge isn't necessary, since the only difference is the
barrels. The saddles will
> help with the buzzing, but not so much as the Buzzstop, which I
installed on my Jazz.
>
> I don't know how the AV Jags and Jazz bodies compare with the
vintage, can't do an A/B,
> but I did play a vintage and Jap Jag side-by-side once, and the
vintage felt more solid and
> comfortable. But, all-in-all, I didn't feel or hear a HUGE difference.
>
> I have a new Surf Guitar custom job I am building...can't wait to
show it to the group!
>
> Gavin
>
>
> --- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...> wrote:
> > > Looks like this is the one for Jaguars:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > These pictures have been really bothering me for some time, and I
couldn't
> > quite put my finger on it, until now. Maybe it's just me, but
these bodies
> > look just a little too bit squished. The lower bout especially
looks wrong.
> > It's too pregnant looking. My American reissue seems to have a
much taller
> > upper horn and a less pronounced lower bout. In general, it seems
to be a
> > bit more sleeker and less "fatter" looking around the lower part.
Can anyone
> > else with an AV RI or vintage Jag comment?
> >
> > Also, for those of you with Japanese Jaguars/Jazzmasters, do your
bridge
> > saddles have all the same groove widths? Or do you have multiple
(3) sizes?
> >
> > It's my understanding that vintage Jags/JM's had varying sized
saddles, at
> > least during certain years. The AV RI's have all the same size,
and the low
> > E saddle isn't quite wide enough.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BN
Gavin,
Let's hope that was just a photo-distorto effect happening...I've heard
people like Jim Shine say there are differences in body shapes between the
Japanese and American (both reissue and vintage) guitars, but I would hope
it wasn't that dramatic. I have compared other pics of Japanese Jags (from
the 90's) and they seem more reasonable.
I have resisted getting Mustang saddles so far, but I just won a set on
eBay, so I'll try them out for grins. I may just look for some vintage
saddles since they have 3 different sizes too. I don't get why the American
reissues didn't use different sizes; they were very accurate in all other
details.
If I can find a set of vintage saddles and the Mustang saddles don't work
out, I'll try the Graph-Tecs. I've heard that they don't fit too well side
by side on the bridge (they aren't wide enough so they can wigggle). Seems
like it's always something...
Thanks,
BN
Got a mustang bridge from a local shop.( a Fender even )Put it on my
jap jazz .To bright .The mustang saddles are brass .The stock is
steel. The brass saddles cured some of the string problems but made
some other problems. miller
-- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...> wrote:
> Gavin,
>
> Let's hope that was just a photo-distorto effect happening...I've
heard
> people like Jim Shine say there are differences in body shapes
between the
> Japanese and American (both reissue and vintage) guitars, but I
would hope
> it wasn't that dramatic. I have compared other pics of Japanese
Jags (from
> the 90's) and they seem more reasonable.
>
> I have resisted getting Mustang saddles so far, but I just won a
set on
> eBay, so I'll try them out for grins. I may just look for some
vintage
> saddles since they have 3 different sizes too. I don't get why the
American
> reissues didn't use different sizes; they were very accurate in all
other
> details.
>
> If I can find a set of vintage saddles and the Mustang saddles
don't work
> out, I'll try the Graph-Tecs. I've heard that they don't fit too
well side
> by side on the bridge (they aren't wide enough so they can
wigggle). Seems
> like it's always something...
>
> Thanks,
>
> BN
I don't think the Jap bodies look that bad, infact I haven't even
noticed this, and still really don't see it.
Let me add this: The MIJ and CIJ's are different as far as hardware
goes. I had a early 90s MIJ Jaguar and it was trash. The tuners
were the vintage style ones with the keys that pop on. My 2003 CIJ
has tuners just like the AVs the older MIJ also had smaller saddles
than the ones on my 2003 CIJ do.
I always thought the saddles on the original Jazzmasters were all the
same. The two plain string saddles were made with a finer thread
than they had in previous years starting in '62(the year of the
Jaguar). We all know Fender liked to use up parts so there was a
time for about a year when you'd get bridges with one, two, or three
of the fine threaded saddles.
--- In , "loscobrassurf"
<loscobrassurf@y...> wrote:
>
> Got a mustang bridge from a local shop.( a Fender even )Put it on
my
> jap jazz .To bright .The mustang saddles are brass .The stock is
> steel. The brass saddles cured some of the string problems but made
> some other problems. miller
>
>
>
>
>
> -- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...>
wrote:
> > Gavin,
> >
> > Let's hope that was just a photo-distorto effect happening...I've
> heard
> > people like Jim Shine say there are differences in body shapes
> between the
> > Japanese and American (both reissue and vintage) guitars, but I
> would hope
> > it wasn't that dramatic. I have compared other pics of Japanese
> Jags (from
> > the 90's) and they seem more reasonable.
> >
> > I have resisted getting Mustang saddles so far, but I just won a
> set on
> > eBay, so I'll try them out for grins. I may just look for some
> vintage
> > saddles since they have 3 different sizes too. I don't get why
the
> American
> > reissues didn't use different sizes; they were very accurate in
all
> other
> > details.
> >
> > If I can find a set of vintage saddles and the Mustang saddles
> don't work
> > out, I'll try the Graph-Tecs. I've heard that they don't fit too
> well side
> > by side on the bridge (they aren't wide enough so they can
> wigggle). Seems
> > like it's always something...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BN
I agree on the Graphtechs, it was difficult to get them adjusted correctly for
height while
also nestled snugly together on the bridge. I ended up with four Graphtechs,
with two of
the original Fender Jaguar barrels sandwiched between them.
I think you will be happy with the Mustang saddles.
Many thanks again...this site continues to be a really great resource, and I
have even met a
few of the people. Will we ever get together for a get-together?
Best wishes,
Gavin
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...> wrote:
> Gavin,
>
> Let's hope that was just a photo-distorto effect happening...I've heard
> people like Jim Shine say there are differences in body shapes between the
> Japanese and American (both reissue and vintage) guitars, but I would hope
> it wasn't that dramatic. I have compared other pics of Japanese Jags (from
> the 90's) and they seem more reasonable.
>
> I have resisted getting Mustang saddles so far, but I just won a set on
> eBay, so I'll try them out for grins. I may just look for some vintage
> saddles since they have 3 different sizes too. I don't get why the American
> reissues didn't use different sizes; they were very accurate in all other
> details.
>
> If I can find a set of vintage saddles and the Mustang saddles don't work
> out, I'll try the Graph-Tecs. I've heard that they don't fit too well side
> by side on the bridge (they aren't wide enough so they can wigggle). Seems
> like it's always something...
>
> Thanks,
>
> BN
