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Hi,
Ivan has gotten me into the Atlantics. Look what I stumbled across:
Atlantics tunes without the lead guitar. Too bad it doesn't come with a book
that at least shows the chords or anything. Interesting though.
BN
Dick Messick pointed out to me that The Atlantics are still around and have
their own official site. You can even buy their new CD and a complete
tablature book. Thanks Dick!
Has anyone heard their newest album, Flight of The Surf Guitar?
Thanks,
BN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Neal [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:04 PM
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Atlantics Backing Tracks
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Ivan has gotten me into the Atlantics. Look what I stumbled across:
>
>
>
> Atlantics tunes without the lead guitar. Too bad it doesn't come
> with a book
> that at least shows the chords or anything. Interesting though.
>
> BN
>
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Brian Neal wrote:
> Has anyone heard their newest album, Flight of The Surf Guitar?
Yes, it's been out for two or three years now. It's very good, but it
sounds different than the Atlantics of the '60s. All songs (except three
rerecordings of their better known sixties tracks) were written by the new
guitarist, who as a result ends up taking most of the leads. His name is
Martin Cilla, and he's very, very good, and his songs are a nice extension
of both US surf music and the Euro-instro, Shadows sound. But overall I
don't get the same feel of four guys that are just doing the most radical,
unthinkable music and pushing the boundaries, like I do with the sixties
stuff. It's a bit more generic and traditional. BUT... Given that the
band was away for 35 years, it's an admirable return, and I think they
must be given the credit for not introducing metal solos and actually
playing some melodic and concise songs. Anyway, I'd recommend it if you
can find it, but just don't expect stuff like War of The Worlds.
Ivan
I'm definately going to have to agree. Their new stuff sounds tooooo
studioy (in a bad way). It's lost its edge. The only improvement that I
can think of is the dept of the drum tone (especially on the toms).
I think with the space cossacks on some songs you totally nailed the sound
that I would expect from a modern Atlantics (tsar wars, your cover of
cossack patrol, etc).
Speaking of which! Where does the chorus that you use in Cossack Patrol
(aka Meadowland) originate? It hasn't been in any of the tradition versions
(along with jazz versions) of the song that I've heard, but it's in almost
every surf rendition that I've heard.
That song has the coolest damn melody.
-Thor 1460, Monsters From Mars
--- IVAN PONGRACIC <> wrote:
>sound. But overall I
>don't get the same feel of four guys that are just
>doing the most radical,
>unthinkable music and pushing the boundaries, like I
>do with the sixties
>stuff. It's a bit more generic and traditional. BUT... Given that the
>band was away for 35 years, it's an admirable
>return, and I think they
>must be given the credit for not introducing metal
>solos and actually
>playing some melodic and concise songs. Anyway, I'd
>recommend it if you
>can find it, but just don't expect stuff like War of
>The Worlds.
>
> Ivan
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On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, One Four Six Oh wrote:
> I think with the space cossacks on some songs you totally nailed the sound
> that I would expect from a modern Atlantics (tsar wars, your cover of
> cossack patrol, etc).
Thank you, sir, that's what I aimed for!
> Speaking of which! Where does the chorus that you use in Cossack Patrol
> (aka Meadowland) originate? It hasn't been in any of the tradition versions
> (along with jazz versions) of the song that I've heard, but it's in almost
> every surf rendition that I've heard.
> That song has the coolest damn melody.
Well, we basically copied the Swedish sixties instrumental band the
Spotnicks' version, which they titled Rocket Man. The Spotnicks had a
very unique sound, and were great musicians. This was one of their first
hits. We rocked it up considerably, but melodically it was basically
their version that provided the guidance. I can't say where the other
bands get their arrangements, but I'd guess the same source - though maybe
second-hand. And yes, the melody is fantastic! I found out that it's not
actually a traditional russian song, but was written by a russian composer
in the early 20th century. I forget his name now. It would be
interesting to hear the original piece...
Ivan
The Spotniks version was the first time I'd heard a surf-like arrangement of
the song. I've heard the Ivan Rebroff version, and the Red Army Choir
versions which are cool vocal versions. And then there's this cool jazz
version by Eddie Calvert.
Do you happen to know why the song is known by both "Meadowland" and
"Cossack Patrol" and which is its real name? I've even now found a version
of the song called "Cavalry of The Steppes".
I've been meaning to have my band play this song for a while now, but I
haven't decided on the arrangement.
-Thor, Monsters From Mars
--- IVAN PONGRACIC <> wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, One Four Six Oh wrote:
>
> > I think with the space cossacks on some songs you
>totally nailed the sound > that I would expect from a modern Atlantics
>(tsar
>wars, your cover of > cossack patrol, etc).
>
>Thank you, sir, that's what I aimed for!
>
> > Speaking of which! Where does the chorus that you
>use in Cossack Patrol > (aka Meadowland) originate? It hasn't been in any
>of the tradition versions > (along with jazz versions) of the song that
>I've
>heard, but it's in almost > every surf rendition that I've heard.
> > That song has the coolest damn melody.
>
>Well, we basically copied the Swedish sixties
>instrumental band the
>Spotnicks' version, which they titled Rocket Man. The Spotnicks had a
>very unique sound, and were great musicians. This
>was one of their first
>hits. We rocked it up considerably, but melodically
>it was basically
>their version that provided the guidance. I can't
>say where the other
>bands get their arrangements, but I'd guess the same
>source - though maybe
>second-hand. And yes, the melody is fantastic! I
>found out that it's not
>actually a traditional russian song, but was written
>by a russian composer
>in the early 20th century. I forget his name now. It would be interesting
>to hear the original piece...
>
> Ivan
Yes it would.
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The Soviet composer Lev Knipper wrote the Symphony, No 4 in D, Op
41, "Poem of the Komsomol Fighter", as a state sponsored commission.
At that time, the Communist Youth Organization, known as the
Komsomol, had 40 million members amongst its ranks. It later became
referred to as Meadowland, or Cavalry of the Steppes, in popular
western culture. As early in the 1930's, western music publishers
were marketing piano and marching band music with the central
leitmotif under the name of Cossack Patrol, with reference to the
Cavalry of the Steppes, or sometimes Meadowland, as its origin.
Somtimes it was called Cavalry of the Steppes Cossack Patrol. The
melody became popular in Soviet culture--after all, it was state
sponsored--but it may have actually have been a Russian folk melody
that Knipper made a formal arrangement of, and Meadowland may refer
to its "folk" name.
Whatever its origins, its a great melody for electric guitar!
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., "One Four Six Oh" <thor1460@h...> wrote:
>
>
> The Spotniks version was the first time I'd heard a surf-like
arrangement of
> the song. I've heard the Ivan Rebroff version, and the Red Army
Choir
> versions which are cool vocal versions. And then there's this cool
jazz
> version by Eddie Calvert.
> Do you happen to know why the song is known by both "Meadowland"
and
> "Cossack Patrol" and which is its real name? I've even now found a
version
> of the song called "Cavalry of The Steppes".
> I've been meaning to have my band play this song for a while now,
but I
> haven't decided on the arrangement.
>
> -Thor, Monsters From Mars
>
>
> --- IVAN PONGRACIC <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
> >On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, One Four Six Oh wrote:
> >
> > > I think with the space cossacks on some songs you
> >totally nailed the sound > that I would expect from a modern
Atlantics
> >(tsar
> >wars, your cover of > cossack patrol, etc).
> >
> >Thank you, sir, that's what I aimed for!
> >
> > > Speaking of which! Where does the chorus that you
> >use in Cossack Patrol > (aka Meadowland) originate? It hasn't
been in any
> >of the tradition versions > (along with jazz versions) of the song
that
> >I've
> >heard, but it's in almost > every surf rendition that I've heard.
> > > That song has the coolest damn melody.
> >
> >Well, we basically copied the Swedish sixties
> >instrumental band the
> >Spotnicks' version, which they titled Rocket Man. The Spotnicks
had a
> >very unique sound, and were great musicians. This
> >was one of their first
> >hits. We rocked it up considerably, but melodically
> >it was basically
> >their version that provided the guidance. I can't
> >say where the other
> >bands get their arrangements, but I'd guess the same
> >source - though maybe
> >second-hand. And yes, the melody is fantastic! I
> >found out that it's not
> >actually a traditional russian song, but was written
> >by a russian composer
> >in the early 20th century. I forget his name now. It would be
interesting
> >to hear the original piece...
> >
> > Ivan
>
> Yes it would.
>
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--- ohsyrus <> wrote:
> The Soviet composer Lev Knipper wrote the Symphony,
> No 4 in D, Op
> 41, "Poem of the Komsomol Fighter", as a state
> sponsored commission.
> At that time, the Communist Youth Organization,
> known as the
> Komsomol, had 40 million members amongst its ranks.
> It later became
> referred to as Meadowland, or Cavalry of the
> Steppes, in popular
> western culture. As early in the 1930's, western
> music publishers
> were marketing piano and marching band music with
> the central
> leitmotif under the name of Cossack Patrol, with
> reference to the
> Cavalry of the Steppes, or sometimes Meadowland, as
> its origin.
> Somtimes it was called Cavalry of the Steppes
> Cossack Patrol. The
> melody became popular in Soviet culture--after all,
> it was state
> sponsored--but it may have actually have been a
> Russian folk melody
> that Knipper made a formal arrangement of, and
> Meadowland may refer
> to its "folk" name.
>
> Whatever its origins, its a great melody for
> electric guitar!
I've also now found it entitled "Song of the Plains"
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