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Was Eddie Bertrand Photo...here's the rough site

supertwangreverb - 15 Sep 2004 15:52:21

So some of us think that is Eddie on the left others think it's him
on the right. Like Ivan said he's got that guitar rather high, but
Les says that is him, and he actually knows him LOL!
If you look closely at that "blue" guitar it has white control
knobs...which would equal Jazzmaster.
So anyway here's the information I've thrown together rather quickly,
I have a few more theories as well which need to be added, and a few
more photos. It's a rather pointless site and probably a waste of my
time, but I think this guy deserves more than he's received.
www.geocities.com/supertwangreverb
Bill
--- In , "kahunatikiman" <chris@b...>
wrote:
>
> RE: One more thing: the guy on the right looks too thin to be
Eddie,
> > too. Eddie was a husky guy even back then.
>
> Husky? We prefer "Healthy" I was always under the impression that
> Eddie was pretty tall and solidly built, but not husky. ;-)
>
> I'll have to look at the cd jacket for the Eddie and the Showman
> disc I have and See if there is any more info. Have you read the
> John Dalley " Surfin"Guitars" section on Eddie?
>
> I don't think the guy with the blue guitar is Larry Carlton - he
> isn't that tall. I always saw him in photos with a strat, or a
> Gibson SG (shudder)
>
> Chris

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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 15 Sep 2004 17:01:44

Bill, I'd urge you to contact Paul Johnson and perhaps he can get a
hold of Eddie to clear things up. Paul has always been very helpful
about this kind of stuff. Paul's contact info is at his website:
And no, its not a pointless site...good job... :)
BN
> So anyway here's the information I've thrown together rather
quickly,
> I have a few more theories as well which need to be added, and a
few
> more photos. It's a rather pointless site and probably a waste of
my
> time, but I think this guy deserves more than he's received.
>
> www.geocities.com/supertwangreverb
>
> Bill
>

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ipongrac - 15 Sep 2004 17:32:04

--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
> So some of us think that is Eddie on the left others think it's him
> on the right. Like Ivan said he's got that guitar rather high, but
> Les says that is him, and he actually knows him LOL!
With all due respect, there's NO WAY that the guy on the right is
Eddie. Looking through the other photos I have, I'm fairly confident
it's Rob Edwards, playing a Jazzmaster (as he does on the cover of
the CD and - speculating - behind the Rivingtons in the CD liners).
He's tall and thin, unlike Eddie who was tall and 'healthy' (speaking
as a guy who's exceedingly 'healthy', I meant nothing by the 'husky'
description - I thought it was just somebody that's broad-shouldered
and more filled-out, without being fat) .
> If you look closely at that "blue" guitar it has white control
> knobs...which would equal Jazzmaster.
Bingo!
> So anyway here's the information I've thrown together rather
quickly,
> I have a few more theories as well which need to be added, and a
few
> more photos. It's a rather pointless site and probably a waste of
my
> time, but I think this guy deserves more than he's received.
I really like the site!! Great job.
Here's my few thoughts and additions:
1. concerning Eddie's first (white) Jag: there's a Belairs photo from
mid- to late-62 (with Dick Dodd on drums) in the booklet that came
with the Belairs CD "The Origins of Surf Music 1960-1963" that shows
Eddie with bleached-blonde hair AND a white Jag! It's hard to tell
in the photo, but it appears that Paul is ALSO playing a (dark-
colored) Jag. They may have both bought them as soon as they came
out, but Paul decided he'd rather stick to a Strat.
2. Upon examining all the photos you refer to in both the E&tS CD
and Surfin' Guitars, I would be fairly certain that there's only one
Strat, the sunburst one. It appears black sometimes due to the poor
quality of the photograph.
3. As you point out, the blue Jag on the cover of the CD looks
really iffy. I would bet it's been artifically painted, as the
pickups are also blue! I think it was a B&W photo, that was painted
afterwards. You can see the faces of the soldeirs behind the band,
and they're gray! So, there's a good chance that Eddie is simply
playing his white Jag on that gig. That blue also doesn't look like
any blue that Fender offered on their guitars at the time.
4. Finally, what about the B&W photo on p. 267,where he's holding a
colored Jag of some sort? I think there's a better chance that the
color is sort sort of reddish/purpleish, since that's the color of
the guitar the guy on the left is holding in the photo you were
asking about. If you look closely, you can see the tremolo arm
hanging down from that guitar, and it's certainly a Jag or a
Jazzmaster. If that's actually Eddie in that photo, then the Jag
he's holding is of some kind of reddish/purpleish color. In
addition, compare that photo (the one you posted and asked about) to
the photo on p. 267: it's the same gig! Same background, same amp
setup behind Eddie, same attire.
Hope that helps!!
Ivan

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