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Re: "Not So Nice" Sounds

Dana and Roberta Vincent (dana_l_vincent) - 12 May 2002 14:56:20

Erik, not sure about your "not so nice" sound, but you should "always" (yes,
there are exceptions) put a boost or overdrive pedal first in the signal
chain (otherwise you can end up with weird artifacts, some desirable but
most not). I never found the Tube Screamer to be particularly pleasant
sounding in most cases (too mid-rangy, especially at the higher drive
settings), and finally gave up on mine. I still swear by my KLON Centaur
for a nice full sound in front of a solid state amp, but it certainly is not
a very tone-flexible pedal. Hope this helps.
Best regards, Dana Vincent
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Carlson
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Quick Poll - Favorite Fender Reverb Tank
Settings
I have a question about the '63 reissue reverb...
I tried running a tubescreamer into the reverb, (guitar > Ibanez TS9 >
reverb > amp)
It gave a not so nice sound on the high notes, is this expected? Maybe I
should put the tubescreamer after the reverb? Or is there something wrong
with the reverb?
-Erik

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Erik Carlson (ecarlson_dublin) - 14 May 2002 18:46:37

Hi Dana,
You do mean put the overdrive 'first' before the reverb, inbetween the
guitar and reverb? That's what I was doing. I did try it after the reverb
and it's better. I would love to have a Klon Centaur, I hear they're great,
but hard to find and pricey. I was thinking about the Voodoo Lab's Sparkle
Drive(?) That might be pretty close to Centaur?
thanks,
Erik
-----Original Message-----
From: Dana and Roberta Vincent [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:56 PM
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: "Not So Nice" Sounds
Erik, not sure about your "not so nice" sound, but you should "always" (yes,
there are exceptions) put a boost or overdrive pedal first in the signal
chain (otherwise you can end up with weird artifacts, some desirable but
most not). I never found the Tube Screamer to be particularly pleasant
sounding in most cases (too mid-rangy, especially at the higher drive
settings), and finally gave up on mine. I still swear by my KLON Centaur
for a nice full sound in front of a solid state amp, but it certainly is not
a very tone-flexible pedal. Hope this helps.
Best regards, Dana Vincent
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Carlson
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Quick Poll - Favorite Fender Reverb Tank
Settings
I have a question about the '63 reissue reverb...
I tried running a tubescreamer into the reverb, (guitar > Ibanez TS9 >
reverb > amp)
It gave a not so nice sound on the high notes, is this expected? Maybe I
should put the tubescreamer after the reverb? Or is there something wrong
with the reverb?
-Erik
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Dana and Roberta Vincent (dana_l_vincent) - 14 May 2002 19:13:37

Erik, the overdrive should "always" be first, directly from the guitar.
Sounds to me like you are overdriving the reverb with the pedal; try turning
down the gain on the pedal, and/or the mix on the reverb unit to see if that
helps. I don't have any experience with the Voodoo Lab unit, but I remember
I had to wait three months for delivery of my KLON Centaur (each hand made,
no production line; even the "instructions" are hand-written). I did
recently buy one of the BOSS OD-20 Overdrive/Distortion pedals, and it did a
very good job of "modeling" the KLON unit (as well as 21 other popular
effects and pedals). Really a nice pedal (around $180 new), particularly if
you want a lot of variety in tone. Not completely happy with the way the
presets are selected, but that is a minor complaint. Hope that helps a bit.
Best regards, Dana Vincent
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Carlson
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Re: "Not So Nice" Sounds
Hi Dana,
You do mean put the overdrive 'first' before the reverb, inbetween the
guitar and reverb? That's what I was doing. I did try it after the reverb
and it's better. I would love to have a Klon Centaur, I hear they're great,
but hard to find and pricey. I was thinking about the Voodoo Lab's Sparkle
Drive(?) That might be pretty close to Centaur?
thanks,
Erik
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Erik Carlson (ecarlson_dublin) - 14 May 2002 19:20:31

Dana,
Do they still make them, then? Do you know where I can find one? I've seen
them on ebay before...but not currently. I'll look into the Boss pedal. I
hear the Z-Vex pedals are great too.
thanks,
Erik
-----Original Message-----
From: Dana and Roberta Vincent [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:14 PM
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: "Not So Nice" Sounds
Erik, the overdrive should "always" be first, directly from the guitar.
Sounds to me like you are overdriving the reverb with the pedal; try turning
down the gain on the pedal, and/or the mix on the reverb unit to see if that
helps. I don't have any experience with the Voodoo Lab unit, but I remember
I had to wait three months for delivery of my KLON Centaur (each hand made,
no production line; even the "instructions" are hand-written). I did
recently buy one of the BOSS OD-20 Overdrive/Distortion pedals, and it did a
very good job of "modeling" the KLON unit (as well as 21 other popular
effects and pedals). Really a nice pedal (around $180 new), particularly if
you want a lot of variety in tone. Not completely happy with the way the
presets are selected, but that is a minor complaint. Hope that helps a bit.
Best regards, Dana Vincent
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Carlson
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Re: "Not So Nice" Sounds
Hi Dana,
You do mean put the overdrive 'first' before the reverb, inbetween the
guitar and reverb? That's what I was doing. I did try it after the reverb
and it's better. I would love to have a Klon Centaur, I hear they're great,
but hard to find and pricey. I was thinking about the Voodoo Lab's Sparkle
Drive(?) That might be pretty close to Centaur?
thanks,
Erik
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Robb Lowe (robbhatesit) - 14 May 2002 22:37:18

all this talk about distortion pedals give me an opening to ask...
Anyone ever try an "Expandora" pedal? comments?
I have an old (circa 1982) MXR Overdrive pedal that is so-so, but I remember
when I bought it, I had my decision narrowed down between in and a Ibanez
TS-9 Tube Screamer. SRV was about a year away from making them (the TS9) a
thing of legend, and to my ears it didnt have the tone the MXR did. Ten
years later, I bought a TS-10 Tube Screamer and have used it a lot more than
the MXR, although I'm a 'lite' distortion user at best.
I'd also like to say how much I hate amps with master volumes, and built in
distortion. But thats just me. :)
Robb

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