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Wow Ivan, thanks for that very long review!
I watched the Bambi Molesters DVD last night and I was very
impressed. It was so incredibly cool to see and hear the band
members speak, rehearse, and perform in front of audiences both
large and small. Don't worry if you don't speak Croatian, Lada has
translated and she and Hrvoje did the English subtitles. I really
want to see this band live, even more than before. The best part of
this DVD is catching snippets of them playing live, just ripping the
place up. They have footage of them playing in small clubs, on TV
shows, and to large audiences. Dalibor explains the history of the
band, and each member talks a little bit about their sudden rise to
fame in Croatia and Europe. They talk a bit about each band members
role, what touring is like, having good and bad shows, etc. Its
great stuff! You really must own this if you are a fan.
The few quibbles I have: the 2nd half of the DVD turns into a "look
at us, we are touring with REM! REM! REM!" I can appreciate the
honor and opportunity, and it is richly deserved. At this point the
DVD drifts into their collaborations with REM and the REM sidemen.
It is interesting, but I want to see the Bambi Molesters play!! It
was very cool however, to see a "surf" band play in front of
enormous audiences, and it is apparent they are very well known in
Croatia and Europe. Its great to see that kind of success for them.
The other thing I didn't care for was the way surf music seemed to
be discounted or tossed aside, even laughed at. This attitude did
not come from the band directly, but from various other people being
interviewed. Notably the Croatian music critic. Over and over it was
stressed that the Bambi Molesters are *so* much more than a surf
band, that surf is a limited genre with no future. Well that's the
feeling I got anyway. I felt a little hurt and annoyed by this. I
mean, c'mon, surf isn't any more limited a genre than the say, the
blues. Look at the Bambi Molesters, Slacktone, The Space Cossacks
(and now The Madeira), etc, etc. These are all bands that can take
surf in dangerous new directions but can still be called surf, and
there is nothing to laugh about or be ashamed of. Sheesh.
Anyway, don't let my minor ranting dissuade you from picking this
up. In fact, you better do it now as this will probably be very hard
to get. Contact our friend Dave Wood to get a copy:
The DVD is in PAL format, which means you can't play it on your TV
in the US, but your computer should be able to play it (if you have
a DVD drive, that is, duh).
I would really, really like to see a Bambi Molesters performance
captured in its entirety on DVD since they may not make it over to
the US in the near future. That would make a great companion DVD
alongside this documentary.
Oh yeah, in addition to the documentary 3 of their music videos are
included. These videos are very well made and actually look like
they had a decent budget to make them on! Again, so nice to see them
doing so well.
BN
Let me reply to myself (how narcissistic is that)?
I think I overstated the following:
> The other thing I didn't care for was the way surf music seemed to
> be discounted or tossed aside, even laughed at. This attitude did
> not come from the band directly, but from various other people being
> interviewed. Notably the Croatian music critic. Over and over it was
> stressed that the Bambi Molesters are *so* much more than a surf
> band, that surf is a limited genre with no future.
I agree, the Bambi Molesters are not just a surf band, they have their own
"thing" going on now. Their own sound and unique style.
However, after looking at the DVD again, I don't think the malice towards
the surf genre was present like I had originally imagined. I am perhaps a
bit too sensitive to criticism of the genre as a whole....I am guilty on
that point. Hey, its a great style that needs more recognition. But again, I
recant those remarks. Buy the DVD. You will enjoy it.
BN
rem? god i hate that band. brian when are you going to do an update to your man
or astroman page? i check on a regular basis. I miss moam. what is starcrunch
doing these days? anyone?
Brian Neal <> wrote:Wow Ivan, thanks for that very long review!
I watched the Bambi Molesters DVD last night and I was very
impressed. It was so incredibly cool to see and hear the band
members speak, rehearse, and perform in front of audiences both
large and small. Don't worry if you don't speak Croatian, Lada has
translated and she and Hrvoje did the English subtitles. I really
want to see this band live, even more than before. The best part of
this DVD is catching snippets of them playing live, just ripping the
place up. They have footage of them playing in small clubs, on TV
shows, and to large audiences. Dalibor explains the history of the
band, and each member talks a little bit about their sudden rise to
fame in Croatia and Europe. They talk a bit about each band members
role, what touring is like, having good and bad shows, etc. Its
great stuff! You really must own this if you are a fan.
The few quibbles I have: the 2nd half of the DVD turns into a "look
at us, we are touring with REM! REM! REM!" I can appreciate the
honor and opportunity, and it is richly deserved. At this point the
DVD drifts into their collaborations with REM and the REM sidemen.
It is interesting, but I want to see the Bambi Molesters play!! It
was very cool however, to see a "surf" band play in front of
enormous audiences, and it is apparent they are very well known in
Croatia and Europe. Its great to see that kind of success for them.
The other thing I didn't care for was the way surf music seemed to
be discounted or tossed aside, even laughed at. This attitude did
not come from the band directly, but from various other people being
interviewed. Notably the Croatian music critic. Over and over it was
stressed that the Bambi Molesters are *so* much more than a surf
band, that surf is a limited genre with no future. Well that's the
feeling I got anyway. I felt a little hurt and annoyed by this. I
mean, c'mon, surf isn't any more limited a genre than the say, the
blues. Look at the Bambi Molesters, Slacktone, The Space Cossacks
(and now The Madeira), etc, etc. These are all bands that can take
surf in dangerous new directions but can still be called surf, and
there is nothing to laugh about or be ashamed of. Sheesh.
Anyway, don't let my minor ranting dissuade you from picking this
up. In fact, you better do it now as this will probably be very hard
to get. Contact our friend Dave Wood to get a copy:
The DVD is in PAL format, which means you can't play it on your TV
in the US, but your computer should be able to play it (if you have
a DVD drive, that is, duh).
I would really, really like to see a Bambi Molesters performance
captured in its entirety on DVD since they may not make it over to
the US in the near future. That would make a great companion DVD
alongside this documentary.
Oh yeah, in addition to the documentary 3 of their music videos are
included. These videos are very well made and actually look like
they had a decent budget to make them on! Again, so nice to see them
doing so well.
BN
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I like Man or Astroman. Unfortunately, I do not own any of their CDs,
which is strange because I'm usually quick to buy surf band's stuff. Not
Man or Astroman because they have such a history, but many bands are
quick to come and go, then you wished you would have spent the money on
the CD when you can't get it anymore. I remember I was looking for the
first Tiki Tones CD for a couple of years. I did finally get a copy.
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:14:24 -0700 (PDT) AARON LESKO
<> writes:
rem? god i hate that band. brian when are you going to do an update to
your man or astroman page? i check on a regular basis. I miss moam.
what is starcrunch doing these days? anyone?
Brian Neal <> wrote:Wow Ivan, thanks for that very long
review!
I watched the Bambi Molesters DVD last night and I was very
impressed. It was so incredibly cool to see and hear the band
members speak, rehearse, and perform in front of audiences both
large and small. Don't worry if you don't speak Croatian, Lada has
translated and she and Hrvoje did the English subtitles. I really
want to see this band live, even more than before. The best part of
this DVD is catching snippets of them playing live, just ripping the
place up. They have footage of them playing in small clubs, on TV
shows, and to large audiences. Dalibor explains the history of the
band, and each member talks a little bit about their sudden rise to
fame in Croatia and Europe. They talk a bit about each band members
role, what touring is like, having good and bad shows, etc. Its
great stuff! You really must own this if you are a fan.
The few quibbles I have: the 2nd half of the DVD turns into a "look
at us, we are touring with REM! REM! REM!" I can appreciate the
honor and opportunity, and it is richly deserved. At this point the
DVD drifts into their collaborations with REM and the REM sidemen.
It is interesting, but I want to see the Bambi Molesters play!! It
was very cool however, to see a "surf" band play in front of
enormous audiences, and it is apparent they are very well known in
Croatia and Europe. Its great to see that kind of success for them.
The other thing I didn't care for was the way surf music seemed to
be discounted or tossed aside, even laughed at. This attitude did
not come from the band directly, but from various other people being
interviewed. Notably the Croatian music critic. Over and over it was
stressed that the Bambi Molesters are *so* much more than a surf
band, that surf is a limited genre with no future. Well that's the
feeling I got anyway. I felt a little hurt and annoyed by this. I
mean, c'mon, surf isn't any more limited a genre than the say, the
blues. Look at the Bambi Molesters, Slacktone, The Space Cossacks
(and now The Madeira), etc, etc. These are all bands that can take
surf in dangerous new directions but can still be called surf, and
there is nothing to laugh about or be ashamed of. Sheesh.
Anyway, don't let my minor ranting dissuade you from picking this
up. In fact, you better do it now as this will probably be very hard
to get. Contact our friend Dave Wood to get a copy:
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I'll try to explain:)
- the idea for this DVD came from our record label. We believe that
there is always a danger of being pretentious when you are
doing "story of the band" kind of documentaries and we tried to do
the best to avoid this
- first idea was to do only "touring with REM". We didn't like this
idea since this fact alone doesn't represent what this band is all
about. Then we tried to find some old footages to show that we are
really a club band which at one moment in career supported REM (and
played in front of 15000 people per show :)). If you look carefully
there is this part where we are saying that "we know this is not
reality and that we look at this REM thing as a holiday trip after
which we will go back to clubs". I believe that director of the
documentary had the same idea. Of course our record label wanted to
use DVD for marketing purposes so there you go:) Recently, I got
nice video (+ multichannel audio) of our December 2003 gig in
Zagreb. One of this days we'll make it available "for fans only"
(maybe in NTSC as well)
- as for REM I can only say that they are one of the most nicest and
down to earth people I've ever met. They watched every set we did
(they were actually on the stage all the time)and treated us too
good. Same goes for their crew. For me it was a experience of a
lifetime. Musically, they are one of the best band I've heard.
- few words about "surf music tossed aside".... of course it didn't
come from the band. We just don't think of ourselves as
a "traditional surf" band and sometimes people misinterpret it that
we don't want to be a part of surf instrumental scene or whatever is
called. Surf music is, in it's traditional form, somehow limited.
But this is true for every other genre as well. Every genre of music
needs difference in approach, sound and mixing with other genres.
Think Mermen, Hypnomen, Calexico etc.
.. just my 2 cents:)
Dalibor
> Let me reply to myself (how narcissistic is that)?
>
> I think I overstated the following:
>
> > The other thing I didn't care for was the way surf music seemed
to
> > be discounted or tossed aside, even laughed at. This attitude did
> > not come from the band directly, but from various other people
being
> > interviewed. Notably the Croatian music critic. Over and over it
was
> > stressed that the Bambi Molesters are *so* much more than a surf
> > band, that surf is a limited genre with no future.
>
> I agree, the Bambi Molesters are not just a surf band, they have
their own
> "thing" going on now. Their own sound and unique style.
>
> However, after looking at the DVD again, I don't think the malice
towards
> the surf genre was present like I had originally imagined. I am
perhaps a
> bit too sensitive to criticism of the genre as a whole....I am
guilty on
> that point. Hey, its a great style that needs more recognition.
But again, I
> recant those remarks. Buy the DVD. You will enjoy it.
>
> BN
--- In , "bambimolesters"
<dalipavi@g...> wrote:
> I'll try to explain:)
Hello Dalibor! No need to explain...I was off by a mile.
Again, great job on the DVD, and we would really appreciate a
performance DVD, even in PAL. Failing that, come to the US! :)
BN
If REM is musically the best band youve heard, you haven't heard much. Some of
the early stuff was decent, but that's about it for them and the fact that they
are nice people but really they are appalling these days.
bambimolesters <> wrote:
I'll try to explain:)
- the idea for this DVD came from our record label. We believe that
there is always a danger of being pretentious when you are
doing "story of the band" kind of documentaries and we tried to do
the best to avoid this
- first idea was to do only "touring with REM". We didn't like this
idea since this fact alone doesn't represent what this band is all
about. Then we tried to find some old footages to show that we are
really a club band which at one moment in career supported REM (and
played in front of 15000 people per show :)). If you look carefully
there is this part where we are saying that "we know this is not
reality and that we look at this REM thing as a holiday trip after
which we will go back to clubs". I believe that director of the
documentary had the same idea. Of course our record label wanted to
use DVD for marketing purposes so there you go:) Recently, I got
nice video (+ multichannel audio) of our December 2003 gig in
Zagreb. One of this days we'll make it available "for fans only"
(maybe in NTSC as well)
- as for REM I can only say that they are one of the most nicest and
down to earth people I've ever met. They watched every set we did
(they were actually on the stage all the time)and treated us too
good. Same goes for their crew. For me it was a experience of a
lifetime. Musically, they are one of the best band I've heard.
- few words about "surf music tossed aside".... of course it didn't
come from the band. We just don't think of ourselves as
a "traditional surf" band and sometimes people misinterpret it that
we don't want to be a part of surf instrumental scene or whatever is
called. Surf music is, in it's traditional form, somehow limited.
But this is true for every other genre as well. Every genre of music
needs difference in approach, sound and mixing with other genres.
Think Mermen, Hypnomen, Calexico etc.
.. just my 2 cents:)
Dalibor
> Let me reply to myself (how narcissistic is that)?
>
> I think I overstated the following:
>
> > The other thing I didn't care for was the way surf music seemed
to
> > be discounted or tossed aside, even laughed at. This attitude did
> > not come from the band directly, but from various other people
being
> > interviewed. Notably the Croatian music critic. Over and over it
was
> > stressed that the Bambi Molesters are *so* much more than a surf
> > band, that surf is a limited genre with no future.
>
> I agree, the Bambi Molesters are not just a surf band, they have
their own
> "thing" going on now. Their own sound and unique style.
>
> However, after looking at the DVD again, I don't think the malice
towards
> the surf genre was present like I had originally imagined. I am
perhaps a
> bit too sensitive to criticism of the genre as a whole....I am
guilty on
> that point. Hey, its a great style that needs more recognition.
But again, I
> recant those remarks. Buy the DVD. You will enjoy it.
>
> BN
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--- In , AARON LESKO <xtcguitar@y...>
wrote:
> If REM is musically the best band youve heard, you haven't heard
much. Some of the early stuff was decent, but that's about it for
them and the fact that they are nice people but really they are
appalling these days.
Hey let's not get into a stupid flame war about REM. This is a surf
music list. And please TRIM YOUR POSTS.
Thanks,
The Mgmt.
sorry all. I got side tracked. ;)
Brian Neal <> wrote:
>Hey let's not get into a stupid flame war about REM. This is a surf
music list. And please TRIM YOUR POSTS.
Thanks,
The Mgmt.
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I said one of the best but anyway....I still think you should see the band
live and than decide. It is off topic but I wanted to comment. And believe
me I've heard a lot ;-) It all comes to personal taste .....
> If REM is musically the best band youve heard, you haven't heard much.
Some of the early stuff was decent, but that's about it for them and the
fact that they are nice people but really they are appalling these days.
>
--- AARON LESKO <> wrote:
> If REM is musically the best band youve heard, you
> haven't heard much. Some of the early stuff was
> decent, but that's about it for them and the fact
> that they are nice people but really they are
> appalling these days.
I live in Athens, GA where all the REM hullabaloo
started and while I'm not particularly a fan of the
band I'd like to say in their defense that I have
gotten it from several veteran musicians around here
that they do a lot to support the bands that they
like.
Richard
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...I am a huge fan of LOVE TRACTOR...the great athens
instro band...now they truly ROCK!
...whatever happened to them?
dp
--- Richard <> wrote:
> --- AARON LESKO <> wrote:
> > If REM is musically the best band youve heard, you
> > haven't heard much. Some of the early stuff was
> > decent, but that's about it for them and the fact
> > that they are nice people but really they are
> > appalling these days.
>
> I live in Athens, GA where all the REM hullabaloo
> started and while I'm not particularly a fan of the
> band I'd like to say in their defense that I have
> gotten it from several veteran musicians around here
> that they do a lot to support the bands that they
> like.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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