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Hey everyone! Thanx for suggesting Slacktone and some othe cool bands
i didnt know about earlier.
I've been thinking for a while which amp i should get. I read loads
about current fender products like Twin Reverb, reissue Bassman, Hot
Rods and other tube amps. It seems like many people say things
like 'Wish Leo was back to get things back to normal with Fender'.
They talk about plastic input jacks on fenders, rattling tubes,
unreliable reverbs, purely decorative 'ground' switches which are
simply for nostalgic purposes, cheap tubes and all so on. Custom shop
amps like Vibro-King seem to be overly expensive.
I am not able to get all those wonderful vintage Showman heads off
ebay as I am not in America.
I've heard an alternative may be Sovtek amps (which use old marhsall
and fender schematics, sound good, but are very affordable), or
Kustom Tuck 'n' Roll tube amps. I have seen neither of those.
But Marshalls are readily available. I dont know much about them, but
I think they've got Vintage Series Tube amps which are like 100
watts, and basically only have tone and volume controls. No reverb.
Some have built in Tremolo effect.
So I was just wondering if any of you played marshalls, what you
think about the quality and their sound. Do they sound nice clean, or
are they supposed to be cranked up?
I have a 1969 Marshall 50 watt head that is one of the best sounding
amps I've ever heard, only you've got to crank it up to get it to
really sing. It only has one sound, the tone controls don't do much
but it doesn't matter because it sounds good no matter how it's set.
On the negative side, it's allways blowing up, and it's extremely
loud - this is good or bad depending on the situation. One doesn't
think of Marshalls for surf, however early Marshalls are patterned
almost exactly like the Fender Bassman. I'm lucky enough to own
vintage amps from both fender and Marshall, in my opinion the sound
difference isn't that drastic, as a matter of fact my tweed Champ
sounds very similar to my Marshall. BEWARE: Marshalls made after
1973 are crap!! They engineered all the good tone out of them in an
effort to make the amp more reliable. Fender amps declined
drastically in quality after 1967, but being under new ownership they
seem to have come back a bit. The hot rod Deluxe and so forth seem
pretty solid, and they sound good. What about Vox amps such as the
ac30, are they available in your part of the world? Generally you
should forget about the name brand and just find something that
sounds good for your needs. I've seen plenty of wacky brands of amps
that sound really good.
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., "tikitakitikitakitak" <icedkimo@h...>
wrote:
> Hey everyone! Thanx for suggesting Slacktone and some othe cool
bands
> i didnt know about earlier.
> I've been thinking for a while which amp i should get. I read loads
> about current fender products like Twin Reverb, reissue Bassman,
Hot
> Rods and other tube amps. It seems like many people say things
> like 'Wish Leo was back to get things back to normal with Fender'.
> They talk about plastic input jacks on fenders, rattling tubes,
> unreliable reverbs, purely decorative 'ground' switches which are
> simply for nostalgic purposes, cheap tubes and all so on. Custom
shop
> amps like Vibro-King seem to be overly expensive.
> I am not able to get all those wonderful vintage Showman heads off
> ebay as I am not in America.
> I've heard an alternative may be Sovtek amps (which use old
marhsall
> and fender schematics, sound good, but are very affordable), or
> Kustom Tuck 'n' Roll tube amps. I have seen neither of those.
>
> But Marshalls are readily available. I dont know much about them,
but
> I think they've got Vintage Series Tube amps which are like 100
> watts, and basically only have tone and volume controls. No reverb.
> Some have built in Tremolo effect.
>
> So I was just wondering if any of you played marshalls, what you
> think about the quality and their sound. Do they sound nice clean,
or
> are they supposed to be cranked up?
I use a fairly new Marshal VS100 head with a fairly new marshall cab (that
can handle 300watts). It's loud and it was fairly cheap. If you ask me,
the tone is nice and through a reverb unit it splashes and drips like
nothing else. I don't know how to describe it.. it's less harsh than a lot
of amps, it's kind of like.. honey, it sounds smooth to me.
At shows a crank it to 10 and it sounds great. Anything above somewhere
between 2 and 4 sounds good. It's definately a different sound than the
norm, but I really like it.. and it's the amp I had. Tone controls don't
really do THAT much, but turning the low end pretty high and the high and
med kinda lower will make it a lot less peircing on the high notes.
If you want to hear what it sounds like:
especially Pollution in the Ocean and Coca-Cola death squad, though MP3's
don't really do any tones justice.
I guess in the end it's up to your own personal tastes. I recomend playing
around with different amps and see which one you want.
-thor 1460, monsters from mars
--- viktor423 <> wrote:
>I have a 1969 Marshall 50 watt head that is one of
>the best sounding amps I've ever heard, only you've got to crank it up
>to get it to really sing. It only has one sound, the tone
>controls don't do much but it doesn't matter because it sounds good no
>matter how it's set. On the negative side, it's allways blowing up, and
>it's extremely loud - this is good or bad depending on the
>situation. One doesn't think of Marshalls for surf, however early Marshalls
>are patterned almost exactly like the Fender Bassman. I'm lucky
>enough to own vintage amps from both fender and Marshall, in my
>opinion the sound difference isn't that drastic, as a matter of fact
>my tweed Champ sounds very similar to my Marshall. BEWARE:
>Marshalls made after 1973 are crap!! They engineered all the good tone
>out of them in an effort to make the amp more reliable. Fender amps
>declined drastically in quality after 1967, but being under
>new ownership they seem to have come back a bit. The hot rod Deluxe and
>so forth seem pretty solid, and they sound good. What about Vox
>amps such as the ac30, are they available in your part of the world?
>Generally you should forget about the name brand and just find
>something that sounds good for your needs. I've seen plenty of
>wacky brands of amps that sound really good.
> --- In SurfGuitar101@y..., "tikitakitikitakitak"
><icedkimo@h...> wrote:
> > Hey everyone! Thanx for suggesting Slacktone and
>some othe cool bands > i didnt know about earlier. > I've been thinking for
>a while which amp i should
>get. I read loads > about current fender products like Twin Reverb,
>reissue Bassman, Hot > Rods and other tube amps. It seems like many
>people say things > like 'Wish Leo was back to get things back to
>normal with Fender'. > They talk about plastic input jacks on fenders,
>rattling tubes, > unreliable reverbs, purely decorative 'ground'
>switches which are > simply for nostalgic purposes, cheap tubes and all
>so on. Custom shop > amps like Vibro-King seem to be overly expensive.
> > I am not able to get all those wonderful vintage
>Showman heads off > ebay as I am not in America.
> > I've heard an alternative may be Sovtek amps
>(which use old marhsall > and fender schematics, sound good, but are very
>affordable), or > Kustom Tuck 'n' Roll tube amps. I have seen
>neither of those.
> > > But Marshalls are readily available. I dont know
>much about them, but > I think they've got Vintage Series Tube amps which
>are like 100 > watts, and basically only have tone and volume
>controls. No reverb. > Some have built in Tremolo effect. > > So I was just
>wondering if any of you played
>marshalls, what you > think about the quality and their sound. Do they
>sound nice clean, or > are they supposed to be cranked up?
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