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In the band I'm in we've put together a sort of medley of of
different heads and hooks from surf songs. So, we actually start
playing Green Onions (Booker T and the MG's) and transition into
Miserlou, Walk, Don't Run and Pipleline. Now the bummer to this
giant string of hip surf songs is that I'm complete direct into the
board so I have NO REVERB, which just totally kills the songs. So
what I've been using a delay pedal (Maxon AD-9) and just backing off
and the delay amount and turning the repeat level up to get a 'faux
spring reverb' sort of thing, but it still sounds like in the middle
of the medley I'm gonna so into a Brian Setzer tune. So my question
is: Does anyone has any suggestions for a reverb pedal or maybe some
ideas the Fender reverb unit? I know this is kind of a weird
question, but I mean, there's gotta something better than this bloody
thing.
Travis
P.S. Thanks for helping a 16 year old new member. Cheers.
Hi Travis,
Perhaps you should try out a Danelectro Spring King or a Electro
Harmonics Holy Grail.
Both sound not bad at all, that is for being digital reverbs, although
the Danelectro has a small spring inside of the unit.
There are other options as well, Little Lenai reverb pedal is not bad
too.
Delay and Spring reverb (or a simulation) is a different thing.
The Fender unit is ofcourse the walhala for reverb.....but more
expensive....
-Jerry S.
In the band I'm in we've put together a sort of medley of of
different heads and hooks from surf songs. So, we actually start
playing Green Onions (Booker T and the MG's) and transition into
Miserlou, Walk, Don't Run and Pipleline. Now the bummer to this
giant string of hip surf songs is that I'm complete direct into the
board so I have NO REVERB, which just totally kills the songs. So
what I've been using a delay pedal (Maxon AD-9) and just backing off
and the delay amount and turning the repeat level up to get a 'faux
spring reverb' sort of thing, but it still sounds like in the middle
of the medley I'm gonna so into a Brian Setzer tune. So my question
is: Does anyone has any suggestions for a reverb pedal or maybe some
ideas the Fender reverb unit? I know this is kind of a weird
question, but I mean, there's gotta something better than this bloody
thing.
Travis
P.S. Thanks for helping a 16 year old new member. Cheers.
The Holy Grail (or The Holier Grail) by Electro Harmonix has
gotten some really good reviews from members of this site. You
can find 'em used on EBay.
Most of the folks seriously into surf use a Fender reverb box, but
for your purposes, a pedal is probably a cheaper and better
solution.
Good luck!
Gavin
--- In , "travis_t_88" <
thewalkingcurcuit@h...> wrote:
> In the band I'm in we've put together a sort of medley of of
> different heads and hooks from surf songs. So, we actually
start
> playing Green Onions (Booker T and the MG's) and transition
into
> Miserlou, Walk, Don't Run and Pipleline. Now the bummer to
this
> giant string of hip surf songs is that I'm complete direct into the
> board so I have NO REVERB, which just totally kills the songs.
So
> what I've been using a delay pedal (Maxon AD-9) and just
backing off
> and the delay amount and turning the repeat level up to get a
'faux
> spring reverb' sort of thing, but it still sounds like in the middle
> of the medley I'm gonna so into a Brian Setzer tune. So my
question
> is: Does anyone has any suggestions for a reverb pedal or
maybe some
> ideas the Fender reverb unit? I know this is kind of a weird
> question, but I mean, there's gotta something better than this
bloody
> thing.
>
> Travis
> P.S. Thanks for helping a 16 year old new member. Cheers.
First and foremost save your coin and get a Fender reverb unit .Even if it is a
reissue. In the mean time I would recommend a Electro Harmonix Holy Grail Pedal.
It's a little noisy but does the trick for under a hundred bucks. I have tried
other reverb pedals and The Grail seems to be the best for me. Just My Opinion.
The Hodaddy
----- Original Message -----
From: travis_t_88
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 4:38 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] A REVERB substitute for direct playing?
In the band I'm in we've put together a sort of medley of of
different heads and hooks from surf songs. So, we actually start
playing Green Onions (Booker T and the MG's) and transition into
Miserlou, Walk, Don't Run and Pipleline. Now the bummer to this
giant string of hip surf songs is that I'm complete direct into the
board so I have NO REVERB, which just totally kills the songs. So
what I've been using a delay pedal (Maxon AD-9) and just backing off
and the delay amount and turning the repeat level up to get a 'faux
spring reverb' sort of thing, but it still sounds like in the middle
of the medley I'm gonna so into a Brian Setzer tune. So my question
is: Does anyone has any suggestions for a reverb pedal or maybe some
ideas the Fender reverb unit? I know this is kind of a weird
question, but I mean, there's gotta something better than this bloody
thing.
Travis
P.S. Thanks for helping a 16 year old new member. Cheers.
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Another vote for the Electroharmonix Holy Grail. I
would say if you're just doing a medly in the middle
of your set that a pedal would be the most expedient
thing. In addition to the EH Holy Grail (which are
always fairly expensive, even used on eBay) you might
also want to check out the Digitech Digiverb. It
sounds different, but good in it's own way. The
"surf" setting that I tried in the instruction manual
sounded pretty good at bedroom volume.
Richard
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Hi,
Yep the "Holy Grail" does a neat job and even at gig levels it delivers.
I still use one from time to time, but I gigged with it several times,
even in open air without PA.
The sound was just right for surf, no Fender tank, but close enough to
decive the audience.
(I even used it on a Sovtek Mig 100 and a Marshall 1960 cab back then
with a stock CIJ Jazzmaster with roundwounds)
Worked like a charm.
The only thing I dislike about it is it's constuction/casing, a bit too
light for my taste. But hey good stuff for the money IMHO. It does work
nice in a chain of stomp boxes and it's very verstaile in sound.
The Hall and Flanger settings are nice gimmicks, but no more. Now I use
it on my reverbless '64 Tremolux for room-bedroom practice and it makes
it sound "A-O.K."
Jerry S.
From: Richard [mailto:]
Another vote for the Electroharmonix Holy Grail. I
would say if you're just doing a medly in the middle
of your set that a pedal would be the most expedient
thing. In addition to the EH Holy Grail (which are
always fairly expensive, even used on eBay) you might
also want to check out the Digitech Digiverb. It
sounds different, but good in it's own way. The
"surf" setting that I tried in the instruction manual
sounded pretty good at bedroom volume.
Richard
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I have seen both Dan from the Dynotones and Steve from the Torquays have the
Holy Grail cut out on them several times during a performance. I believe it was
power-supply related and not faulty leads to the guitar and/or amp. Can anyone
testify on this? Of course I bring it up AFTER I have one on order.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] A REVERB substitute for direct playing?
Hi,
Yep the "Holy Grail" does a neat job and even at gig levels it delivers.
I still use one from time to time, but I gigged with it several times,
even in open air without PA.
The sound was just right for surf, no Fender tank, but close enough to
decive the audience.
(I even used it on a Sovtek Mig 100 and a Marshall 1960 cab back then
with a stock CIJ Jazzmaster with roundwounds)
Worked like a charm.
The only thing I dislike about it is it's constuction/casing, a bit too
light for my taste. But hey good stuff for the money IMHO. It does work
nice in a chain of stomp boxes and it's very verstaile in sound.
The Hall and Flanger settings are nice gimmicks, but no more. Now I use
it on my reverbless '64 Tremolux for room-bedroom practice and it makes
it sound "A-O.K."
Jerry S.
From: Richard [mailto:]
Another vote for the Electroharmonix Holy Grail. I
would say if you're just doing a medly in the middle
of your set that a pedal would be the most expedient
thing. In addition to the EH Holy Grail (which are
always fairly expensive, even used on eBay) you might
also want to check out the Digitech Digiverb. It
sounds different, but good in it's own way. The
"surf" setting that I tried in the instruction manual
sounded pretty good at bedroom volume.
Richard
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I have my own little story about reverb I want to share for a sec.
On The Nebulas first european tour, I took along my reissue reverb tank.
As some members from the list will attest, it was less than reliable.
Granted, I knew exactly what the problem was, but it would be re-aggravated
every night after a long ride in the back of a tour van over cobblestone
streets.
Fast forward to our most recent euro tour. Two days before we were to
leave, my vintage tank which I would be taking along started to act up. As a
knee-jerk reaction I deided that ANY reverb was better than NO reverb, so I
started looking for a reverb pedal that would suffice in a pinch. I went to
a guitar "boutique" here in Boston which stocks the largest selection of new
and used pedals you've ever seen. I told the guy working my story, and he
let me play EVERY reverb pedal he had, and he basically had them all.
Here's my list in order of best quality/sound to the crappiest attempt at
reverb I've ever heard:
1. Danelectro's Spring King - this is the "pedal" i decided had the best
reverb, and I took one with me to europe as a backup to my tank.
2. Holier Grail
3. Holy Grail
4. Boss Digital Reverb
You know...there were a few more, but they sounded so horrendous I didn't
even bother to play more than a few notes through them.
Above all, your best option is a Fender outboard reverb tank. Period. But
if you need a pedal, I put my money on the Dano.
-Dano
-=The Nebulas=-
The DigiTech Digiverb has a nice springy sound, plus is has
stereo and mono outs. I've never actually used one, but the
samples sound pretty good.
I have used a Holy Grail and a Spring King and those are not bad
too.
You may want to look at seriously getting "the tank." Go on eBay and
get one at a discount used and you'll be happpy you did. As far as
other stuff goes, I have had BAD and I mean BAD experience with
Danelectro. I don't know about their reverb stuff but if it is as
unreliable as its Dan Echo you'll be disappointed. Plus, their
customer service is non-existent. If you have a problem-they'll just
shovel you back another brand-new unit that will crap out on you in
less than a few months of light use during an audition. That really
happened. Get a tank. Surf music's consumer advocate- Dario.
--- In , "travis_t_88"
<thewalkingcurcuit@h...> wrote:
> In the band I'm in we've put together a sort of medley of of
> different heads and hooks from surf songs. So, we actually start
> playing Green Onions (Booker T and the MG's) and transition into
> Miserlou, Walk, Don't Run and Pipleline. Now the bummer to this
> giant string of hip surf songs is that I'm complete direct into
the
> board so I have NO REVERB, which just totally kills the songs. So
> what I've been using a delay pedal (Maxon AD-9) and just backing
off
> and the delay amount and turning the repeat level up to get
a 'faux
> spring reverb' sort of thing, but it still sounds like in the
middle
> of the medley I'm gonna so into a Brian Setzer tune. So my
question
> is: Does anyone has any suggestions for a reverb pedal or maybe
some
> ideas the Fender reverb unit? I know this is kind of a weird
> question, but I mean, there's gotta something better than this
bloody
> thing.
>
> Travis
> P.S. Thanks for helping a 16 year old new member. Cheers.
Hey Dano,
Are you sure you're not biased to the Dano because of their name :)
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "-=Dan Ware=-"
<reverbtank@h...> wrote:
> I have my own little story about reverb I want to share for a
sec.
>
> On The Nebulas first european tour, I took along my reissue
reverb tank.
> As some members from the list will attest, it was less than
reliable.
> Granted, I knew exactly what the problem was, but it would be re-
aggravated
> every night after a long ride in the back of a tour van over
cobblestone
> streets.
>
> Fast forward to our most recent euro tour. Two days before we
were to
> leave, my vintage tank which I would be taking along started to act
up. As a
> knee-jerk reaction I deided that ANY reverb was better than NO
reverb, so I
> started looking for a reverb pedal that would suffice in a pinch. I
went to
> a guitar "boutique" here in Boston which stocks the largest
selection of new
> and used pedals you've ever seen. I told the guy working my story,
and he
> let me play EVERY reverb pedal he had, and he basically had them
all.
> Here's my list in order of best quality/sound to the crappiest
attempt at
> reverb I've ever heard:
>
> 1. Danelectro's Spring King - this is the "pedal" i decided had the
best
> reverb, and I took one with me to europe as a backup to my tank.
> 2. Holier Grail
> 3. Holy Grail
> 4. Boss Digital Reverb
>
> You know...there were a few more, but they sounded so horrendous I
didn't
> even bother to play more than a few notes through them.
>
> Above all, your best option is a Fender outboard reverb tank.
Period. But
> if you need a pedal, I put my money on the Dano.
>
>
> -Dano
> -=The Nebulas=-
>
You might also try the (spring emulation) reverb from a Yamaha DG-
Stomp (recently discontinued) or it's replacement, the Magic Stomp.
I've got most of the pedal's listed and a RI fender tank (awaiting
tube replacement) and find the Yammy reverb pretty decent in
comparison. The 'Stomp also can serve as a pre-amp and provides
several servicable effects (chorus, tremelo, delay) as well...
Just my 2-cents,
Dean
