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I'm thinking about looking into a Fender Dual Professional. It 'appears' to
be a Twin with the external reverb built in, 2x12" and 100w.
Anyone ever play one of these things?
I'm wondering this too.. a Twin is 80w, right? A dual Showman was 100w, I
wonder if it's more Showman than Twin?
Robb
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Robb Lowe wrote:
> I'm thinking about looking into a Fender Dual Professional. It 'appears' to
> be a Twin with the external reverb built in, 2x12" and 100w.
> Anyone ever play one of these things?
Yes, I once borrowed it for a gig. It's amazing!! I'm still lusting
after one. What a great looking, great sounding amp. I WILL have one at
some point! But it ain't cheap, surprise, surprise...
> I'm wondering this too.. a Twin is 80w, right? A dual Showman was 100w, I
I don't think so, a Dual Showman is also 80W like the Twin. I think it
basically has to do with the power transformers, and some Dual Showmans
were fitted with bigger, badder transformers which would allow them to go
to 100W. but they were rated and advertised as 80W, just like the Twin
Reverb.
Ivan
I own a '76 Silverface Dual Showman and its a 100W deal with a push/pull
master switch that jumps it to 135W. I think I read on the fender field
guide that Fender only made the push/pull switch for a couple of years
though. (which is no surprise because it goes from LOUD to ASS when you pull
it)
-Dano
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>Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Anybody every play thru a Fender Dual
>Professional?
>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:53:08 -0400 (EDT)
>
>On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Robb Lowe wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking about looking into a Fender Dual Professional. It 'appears'
>to
> > be a Twin with the external reverb built in, 2x12" and 100w.
> > Anyone ever play one of these things?
>
>Yes, I once borrowed it for a gig. It's amazing!! I'm still lusting
>after one. What a great looking, great sounding amp. I WILL have one at
>some point! But it ain't cheap, surprise, surprise...
>
> > I'm wondering this too.. a Twin is 80w, right? A dual Showman was 100w,
>I
>
>I don't think so, a Dual Showman is also 80W like the Twin. I think it
>basically has to do with the power transformers, and some Dual Showmans
>were fitted with bigger, badder transformers which would allow them to go
>to 100W. but they were rated and advertised as 80W, just like the Twin
>Reverb.
>
> Ivan
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robb Lowe [mailto:]
>
> I'm wondering this too.. a Twin is 80w, right? A dual Showman was 100w, I
> wonder if it's more Showman than Twin?
>
> Robb
I have read that the Twin Reverb is basically the same amp as the Showman,
just packaged in combo form with 2x12" instead of 1x15". They are both 85
Watts. I think the Dual Showman was 100/135 Watts.
Drool over this: The Fender Amp Field Guide:
BN
Thanks, I kinda thought it would be 'the' tone meister.
> Yes, I once borrowed it for a gig. It's amazing!! I'm still lusting
> after one. What a great looking, great sounding amp. I WILL have one at
> some point! But it ain't cheap, surprise, surprise...
> > I'm wondering this too.. a Twin is 80w, right? A dual Showman was 100w,
I
>
> I don't think so, a Dual Showman is also 80W like the Twin. I think it
> basically has to do with the power transformers, and some Dual Showmans
> were fitted with bigger, badder transformers which would allow them to go
> to 100W. but they were rated and advertised as 80W, just like the Twin
> Reverb.
What was the deal with the 'dick dale 100w transformer' if it wasnt the
heart of the dual showman, was it just another chapter in the myth of DD?
Any ideas from you electronic guys about how they compare (Showman vs.
Twin)?
Los Mel put a single 15" in his Twin, anyone heard it? Comments?
I've gotta set of 2x12 JBL's in my '66 Twin, and they have that 'voice of
god' tone but its not that rip your head of Dick Dale / Dual Showman tone.
The stock Jensens were hideous in my opinion, but for some reason I read a
lot of posts where people just adore those things.
any info on surfin' up a vintage Twin would be appreciated. (no permanent
mods tho!)
Robb
Rob,
>Los Mel put a single 15" in his Twin, anyone heard it? Comments?
What truly makes a Blackface 63-67 Showman a thing of amazing beauty is the
1x15 closed, ported cabinet with metal tone ring. The cabinet, through its
design, allows a much fuller bass response, allowing the player to back off
on the bass knob, allowing more power to be redirected to the mids and
highs, giving it the effect of being a much more powerful amp than it is. To
take that same speaker and put it in an open-back configuration (as the twin
reverb combo) would be a huge sacrifice of dynamics on behalf of the
speaker. Unless thats the sound you want. In which case it's a perfect
setup.
>
>I've gotta set of 2x12 JBL's in my '66 Twin, and they have that 'voice of
>god' tone but its not that rip your head of Dick Dale / Dual Showman tone.
>The stock Jensens were hideous in my opinion, but for some reason I read a
>lot of posts where people just adore those things.
To get the Dick sound:
"If you're not playing a Fender Stratocaster guitar with 16, 18, 18, 38, 48,
and 58/60 thousandths-gauge strings, and projected out of a vintage Fender
Dual Showman amp head and the Dick Dale 4-ohm 100-watt output transformer
blowing through twin vintage 15-inch JBL-D130F speakers placed in a
three-foot tall, two-foot wide, one-foot deep cabinet packed full of
fiberglass with no portholes, you can't duplicate the true, original "Dick
Dale surf sound"."
This is an excerpt from a great site which I believe was set up by
Cowabunga's own Albatross over in Belgium. Check it out...
I would love to get my hands on one of those "Dick Dale 4-ohm 100-watt
output transformers". In stock config those were all 8 ohm transformers.
That would explain why my ears ring for two days after a Dick show.
>
>any info on surfin' up a vintage Twin would be appreciated. (no permanent
>mods tho!)
Gein of Gein and The Graverobbers is playing through a vintage twin with
outboard reverb and getting great results these days. Contact him.
-Dano
-=The Nebulas=-
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I love the sound of my '67 Ampeg Gemini VI....it also has a 15" speaker in a
closed and ported cab as well...and I can indeed back off the bass...very
full sound, complex mids....I use it for jazz and surf, until I can afford a
TR.
