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I'm looking to replace the garbage cymbals on my current drum kit with
something decent, yet affordable. Is there any standard set for surf music?
How big of a ride cymbal should I get? Hi-hats? I don't know much about
these things, and I don't want to buy something that ends up being worse
than what i've got now, which are made by Hohner of all things.
-Adam
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Hi Adam,
I don't play drums myself, but a BIG ride make a lot of the surf sound.
(think also "Swing-Jazz,were most old school surf drumers earned their
marks)
I'm don't have a big knowledge of cymbals, put perhaps an old set of
Jazz cymbals will get you good on the way.
I recently bought an old "Meindl" Ride for our drummer at a second hand
musical equipment dump store for a fraction of a new cymbal.
This cymbal sounds very good and authentic and so vintage....like
"Tequila" on the old Ventures records.
We recently recorded a few tunes and the mixer-producer was very
impressid with the old Meindl ride. Gave the drum kit a very nice sound.
These are just my observations as a guitarist.
Kind regards,
Jerry S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Marler [mailto:]
Sent: maandag 5 april 2004 20:10
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Surf Drums! Or cymbals, rather.
I'm looking to replace the garbage cymbals on my current drum kit with
something decent, yet affordable. Is there any standard set for surf
music?
How big of a ride cymbal should I get? Hi-hats? I don't know much
about
these things, and I don't want to buy something that ends up being worse
than what i've got now, which are made by Hohner of all things.
-Adam
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and advice.
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Big Turkish (Ziljian) Ride with SIZZLE rivets! and a killer
Bell!
Now that's what I call a surf ride!
DP
--- Adam Marler <> wrote:
> I'm looking to replace the garbage cymbals on my current
> drum kit with
> something decent, yet affordable. Is there any standard
> set for surf music?
> How big of a ride cymbal should I get? Hi-hats? I
> don't know much about
> these things, and I don't want to buy something that ends
> up being worse
> than what i've got now, which are made by Hohner of all
> things.
>
> -Adam
>
>
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> Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health &
> Wellness for information
> and advice.
>
>
>
> .
> Visit for
> archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
>
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You might want to write this guy, Jerry Minson. He makes
custom drums and plays surf, as well as general R'n'R. He is
very knowledgeable and opinionated when it comes to setting
up a drum set, and could give you good advice on cymbals:
Good luck!
Gavin
--- In , "Adam Marler" <adammarler@h...> wrote:
> I'm looking to replace the garbage cymbals on my current
drum kit ...
Adam,
Thanks for giving us surf drummers some action. A couple of my
fellow bandmembers (The Under-tones)post here on a regular basis.
I played surf in the 60's (I'm a old guy)and started up again a
couple of years ago. While many of todays drums and cymbals are
superior to what was available then, I still prefer the look and
sound of vintage drum gear. I would look for some 60's or early 70's
Zildjian "A" series cymbals.They will be made in the USA and will
not have the huge "ZILDJIAN" logo screened on. A 20" medium ride, a
16" or 18" crash, and 14" high hats (thinner/lighter one on top)are
the most common and versatile sizes. Someone mentioned sizzle
cymbals which were popular back then but factory drilled ones in
good condition are tough to find and tend to be somewhat expensive.
Inspect for cracking, keyholing or dents. Try ebay, pawn shops and
music stores. A $100.00 for the ride, $80.00 for the crash and
$150.00 for the high hats should be tops. Be patient and you can
beat that significantly. Hope that helps.
Jesse
--- In , "Adam Marler"
<adammarler@h...> wrote:
> I'm looking to replace the garbage cymbals on my current drum kit
with
> something decent, yet affordable. Is there any standard set for
surf music?
> How big of a ride cymbal should I get? Hi-hats? I don't know
much about
> these things, and I don't want to buy something that ends up being
worse
> than what i've got now, which are made by Hohner of all things.
>
> -Adam
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health & Wellness for
information
> and advice.
About the sizzle rivet things, is it at all possible to put those in myself?
Not on any of the new cymbals of course, but maybe on the old ones. Or is
this something that should only be attempted by a professional? Thanks for
the info everyone, i'll put it to good use.
-Adam
>From: "coloradowoodie" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Surf Drums! Or cymbals, rather.
>Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 06:26:56 -0000
>
>Adam,
>Thanks for giving us surf drummers some action. A couple of my
>fellow bandmembers (The Under-tones)post here on a regular basis.
>I played surf in the 60's (I'm a old guy)and started up again a
>couple of years ago. While many of todays drums and cymbals are
>superior to what was available then, I still prefer the look and
>sound of vintage drum gear. I would look for some 60's or early 70's
>Zildjian "A" series cymbals.They will be made in the USA and will
>not have the huge "ZILDJIAN" logo screened on. A 20" medium ride, a
>16" or 18" crash, and 14" high hats (thinner/lighter one on top)are
>the most common and versatile sizes. Someone mentioned sizzle
>cymbals which were popular back then but factory drilled ones in
>good condition are tough to find and tend to be somewhat expensive.
>Inspect for cracking, keyholing or dents. Try ebay, pawn shops and
>music stores. A $100.00 for the ride, $80.00 for the crash and
>$150.00 for the high hats should be tops. Be patient and you can
>beat that significantly. Hope that helps.
>Jesse
>
>
>--- In , "Adam Marler"
><adammarler@h...> wrote:
> > I'm looking to replace the garbage cymbals on my current drum kit
>with
> > something decent, yet affordable. Is there any standard set for
>surf music?
> > How big of a ride cymbal should I get? Hi-hats? I don't know
>much about
> > these things, and I don't want to buy something that ends up being
>worse
> > than what i've got now, which are made by Hohner of all things.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health & Wellness for
>information
> > and advice.
>
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--- In , "Adam Marler"
<adammarler@h...> wrote:
> About the sizzle rivet things, is it at all possible to put those
in myself?
> Not on any of the new cymbals of course, but maybe on the old
ones. Or is
> this something that should only be attempted by a professional?
Thanks for
> the info everyone, i'll put it to good use.
If you've never done it before, I wouldn't recommend doing it to a
good cymbal. If you have any junk cymbals lying around, it's best
to practice drilling rivet holes. Otherwise, I'd bring it to a drum
shop.
I play a mid-60's Rogers red sparkle kit with a 22" bass, 13", 14" &
16" toms, a matching Rogers Powertone snare (and a brass Powertone
snare). Many of the original wave drummers used 20" bass drums.
Since I also play big band & jazz, the 22" bass is more versatile.
For surf, the previous suggestions are good. I wouldn't go with a
heavy ride. A 20" to 22" ride, medium to medium light with a nice,
prominent bell. 16" and 18" thin to medium-thin crashes. I
personally use a mix, since I play various stuff. I have a 60's 20"
Paiste 602 medium ride, 21" Sabian AA rock ride, 21" Bosphorus
medium-thin ride, 20" A Zildjian flat ride, 16" Paiste Signature
full crash, 18" Paiste Sound Formula thin crash, 8" Paiste 2000
splash, 10" Paiste Sound Formula splash and Wuhan 18" china.