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Does the Strat. vintage 6-hole trem. bridge really have better tone
than the Std. 2-hole trem bridge? While I'm considering options for
this guitar, has anyone replaced a 2 hole with a 6 hole? Is it that
the Squire bridge is inferior quality?
I do play it hard, working out on a lot of tremelo picking.
I have a CIJ Squire Stagemaster ("Strat") and after playing it
constantly since mid-December, it's breaking strings and going out
of tune. The strings, never the same one, always break deep in the
bridge.
It has flatwound 12's, it's nut was professionally cut fo fit, and
springs are on all the claw spaces. I lubricate the nut trees and a
touch on the bridge with graphite lube.
- Bill
Hi Bill,
I own a 97' CIJ Vista series JagMaster with a Squier vintage type trem,
which I also play a lot.
The guitar is still stock (Although I'm making a White Pickguard at the
moment for it)
I haven't had any problems so far with the bridge or string breakage. I
did put in an extra spring because I also use 0.11's but roundwounds.
If you have a lot of string breakage there is a chance that you need to
check the saddles, perhaps need to file away some irregulatities that
might cause the string breakage.
I use to have a Ibanez with a 2 point hole trem bridge which I reall
disliked. I personally like the vintage type 6 hole trem more, since I
feel it's more stabile, but that's just me.
-Jerry S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Moffat [mailto:]
Sent: woensdag 3 maart 2004 18:23
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] V. 6-Hole vs Std. 2-Hole
Does the Strat. vintage 6-hole trem. bridge really have better tone
than the Std. 2-hole trem bridge? While I'm considering options for
this guitar, has anyone replaced a 2 hole with a 6 hole? Is it that
the Squire bridge is inferior quality?
I do play it hard, working out on a lot of tremelo picking.
I have a CIJ Squire Stagemaster ("Strat") and after playing it
constantly since mid-December, it's breaking strings and going out
of tune. The strings, never the same one, always break deep in the
bridge.
It has flatwound 12's, it's nut was professionally cut fo fit, and
springs are on all the claw spaces. I lubricate the nut trees and a
touch on the bridge with graphite lube.
- Bill
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Jerry,
The saddles are clean and smooth, but maybe the strings rub against
a bur on the trem. plate before bending down the assembly. I'm
considering going to the vintage trem for a better workmanship and
sound. Although a Squire, the guitar itself really has great action
and playability.
Maybe its the D'addario flatwound strings?
- Bill
--- In , "Jerry" <jerry.soetewey@b...>
wrote:
>
> If you have a lot of string breakage there is a chance that you
need to
> check the saddles, perhaps need to file away some irregulatities
that
> might cause the string breakage.
--- In , "Bill Moffat" <scrufbal@a...>
wrote:
> Does the Strat. vintage 6-hole trem. bridge really have better tone
> than the Std. 2-hole trem bridge? While I'm considering options for
> this guitar, has anyone replaced a 2 hole with a 6 hole?
Bill, a year and a half ago I had an excellent tech replace the 2-
point American Standard tremolo on my '89 US Fender Strat Plus with a
Fender vintage-reissue 6-point tremolo, and my tone improved rather
dramatically. It's a much better sounding guitar now. Though I
don't know what it would to do to a Squier...
Anyway, if you're interested in reading about this from an expert, go
to:
This is written by Chris Kinman who makes the noiseless pickups, and
does a lot of work for Hank Marvin of the Shadows. He's got a really
nice discussion of 2-point vs. 6-point tremolos.
Hope that helps.
Ivan
Ivan, Very cool. Looks like it's a bigger job than I thought. Thanks
for the link.
The Squire is a cheap CIJ, but it does play very well. Ah, just buy
a guitar with the vintage already onboard. It may cost more to
retrofit than the price of the guitar.
> He's got a really
> nice discussion of 2-point vs. 6-point tremolos.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Ivan
Bill,
I've got no experience in this matter, but in one of my Dan Erlewine (Guitar
Player Mag) books on guitar repair, he states that he prefers the 2 point
bridge to the vintage 6 screw bridge from a guitar setup perspective. He
advocates loosening the 4 middle screws to make a vintage bridge more like a
2 point modern bridge. He feels they are easier to setup, maintain, and have
less tuning and stability problems.
At least no one is putting their bridge in the freezer. I think thats going
a little off the deep end.
BN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Moffat [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:23 AM
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] V. 6-Hole vs Std. 2-Hole
>
>
> Does the Strat. vintage 6-hole trem. bridge really have better tone
> than the Std. 2-hole trem bridge? While I'm considering options for
> this guitar, has anyone replaced a 2 hole with a 6 hole? Is it that
> the Squire bridge is inferior quality?
>
> I do play it hard, working out on a lot of tremelo picking.
>
> I have a CIJ Squire Stagemaster ("Strat") and after playing it
> constantly since mid-December, it's breaking strings and going out
> of tune. The strings, never the same one, always break deep in the
> bridge.
>
> It has flatwound 12's, it's nut was professionally cut fo fit, and
> springs are on all the claw spaces. I lubricate the nut trees and a
> touch on the bridge with graphite lube.
>
> - Bill
