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So what gauge strings could the Ventures been using in Japan '65.
They are obviously round wound do to all the fingernail scrapping.
But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did they,
and Nokie is just rippin' it up on some of those songs.
Hi,
Thanks for the comment on the strings used by the ventures.
I got some 0.11 from "Pyramid" I'll guess I'll try those on my CIJ
Jazzmaster after I upgraded the pick ups to AV RI ones.
Jerry S.
So what gauge strings could the Ventures been using in Japan '65.
They are obviously round wound do to all the fingernail scrapping.
But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did they,
and Nokie is just rippin' it up on some of those songs.
Jerry,
Let me know how the Pyramids work out. I just went from 11 Daddario
rounds to 11 Daddario Flats. The band I play in does some of the '65
Japan stuff so I miss that sound a bit. That being said the flats
added a new dimension to my CIJ Jazzmaster.
--- In , "Jerry" <jerry.soetewey@b...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the comment on the strings used by the ventures.
> I got some 0.11 from "Pyramid" I'll guess I'll try those on my CIJ
> Jazzmaster after I upgraded the pick ups to AV RI ones.
>
> Jerry S.
>
>
> So what gauge strings could the Ventures been using in Japan '65.
> They are obviously round wound do to all the fingernail scrapping.
> But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did they,
> and Nokie is just rippin' it up on some of those songs.
Supertwangreverb,
I bought both Pyramid 0.11 Flats and Pyramid 0.11 round.
Both are noteably cheaper in price then d'Addario's. (In Europe that is)
I first wanted to put the round 0.11 on my Vista series Jagmaster, but I
chickened out because I didn't want to fiddle arround with the tuss rod
and the tremolo system.(again)
Since I got 0.11 flats on my Jazzmaster, I'm sure the Pyramids will go
on that one without any fuzz.
I'm a kind of looking for a new dimension with the Jazzmaster. And since
I like the Early Ventures sound a lot (with the roundwounds)
I like how it sounds, but when playing with Drum, bass and guitar, it
just don't seam to cut it as it is. So now I use a MIJ stock Jaguar that
adds more twang and bite to my bands sound. It also seams to go better
with the Stratocaster of our rythem guitarist. But for some strange
reason the Jazzmaster was always in the same tonal region as our Bass
players 1963 Burns Jazzbass.
I really like my CIJ Jazzmaster, but I wished it had a bit more. So I'm
a kind of hoping that the AV RI pups and new pots will do the trick. And
it's also a good excuse to try on some Pyramids. And it would be nice to
use the Jag with flats and the Jazzmasters with rounds.
But for some reason I can't play a decent tune on a Mosrite, a really
nice guitar, but the frets are too narrow for my sausace like
fingers.....(And thanks to Roland from the "Lunar Tiki's" I got to play
on his lovely Vintage red "Ventures model" Mosrite....)But I just feel
more comfortable on the Fenders.
Jerry S.
-----Original Message-----
From: supertwangreverb [mailto:]
Sent: vrijdag 6 februari 2004 18:19
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Live in Japan '65
Jerry,
Let me know how the Pyramids work out. I just went from 11 Daddario
rounds to 11 Daddario Flats. The band I play in does some of the '65
Japan stuff so I miss that sound a bit. That being said the flats
added a new dimension to my CIJ Jazzmaster.
--- In , "Jerry" <jerry.soetewey@b...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the comment on the strings used by the ventures.
> I got some 0.11 from "Pyramid" I'll guess I'll try those on my CIJ
> Jazzmaster after I upgraded the pick ups to AV RI ones.
>
> Jerry S.
>
>
> So what gauge strings could the Ventures been using in Japan '65.
> They are obviously round wound do to all the fingernail scrapping.
> But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did they,
> and Nokie is just rippin' it up on some of those songs.
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Jerry,
Its the opposite over here the pyramids are the expensive ones where
as the D'addarios are like 6 bucks a pack. I'm playing in a trio and
have to fill in voids but still cut through. Try using a unwound G
string that may help you cut through, and I'm pretty positive
everything on Ventures in Japan '65 was done with unwound G strings.
From what I've been told about the AV Jazzmaster pickups is that they
are more mellow than the stock CIJ, so that may not be the direction
you want to go if your trying to cut through.
As for the Mosrites, I know those are the best way to get the "Live
in Japan" sound. My drummer has a reissue Excellent '65 and it
really nails the tone but its useless for most other stuff. So I'm
trying to find a happy medium with the Jazzmaster. I agree with you
on the playability of the Mosrite vs. the Jazzmaster.
--- In , "Jerry" <jerry.soetewey@b...>
wrote:
> Supertwangreverb,
>
> I bought both Pyramid 0.11 Flats and Pyramid 0.11 round.
> Both are noteably cheaper in price then d'Addario's. (In Europe
that is)
>
> I first wanted to put the round 0.11 on my Vista series Jagmaster,
but I
> chickened out because I didn't want to fiddle arround with the tuss
rod
> and the tremolo system.(again)
>
> Since I got 0.11 flats on my Jazzmaster, I'm sure the Pyramids will
go
> on that one without any fuzz.
> I'm a kind of looking for a new dimension with the Jazzmaster. And
since
> I like the Early Ventures sound a lot (with the roundwounds)
>
> I like how it sounds, but when playing with Drum, bass and guitar,
it
> just don't seam to cut it as it is. So now I use a MIJ stock Jaguar
that
> adds more twang and bite to my bands sound. It also seams to go
better
> with the Stratocaster of our rythem guitarist. But for some strange
> reason the Jazzmaster was always in the same tonal region as our
Bass
> players 1963 Burns Jazzbass.
>
> I really like my CIJ Jazzmaster, but I wished it had a bit more. So
I'm
> a kind of hoping that the AV RI pups and new pots will do the
trick. And
> it's also a good excuse to try on some Pyramids. And it would be
nice to
> use the Jag with flats and the Jazzmasters with rounds.
>
> But for some reason I can't play a decent tune on a Mosrite, a
really
> nice guitar, but the frets are too narrow for my sausace like
> fingers.....(And thanks to Roland from the "Lunar Tiki's" I got to
play
> on his lovely Vintage red "Ventures model" Mosrite....)But I just
feel
> more comfortable on the Fenders.
>
> Jerry S.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: supertwangreverb [mailto:supertwangreverb@y...]
> Sent: vrijdag 6 februari 2004 18:19
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Live in Japan '65
>
>
> Jerry,
>
> Let me know how the Pyramids work out. I just went from 11
Daddario
> rounds to 11 Daddario Flats. The band I play in does some of
the '65
> Japan stuff so I miss that sound a bit. That being said the flats
> added a new dimension to my CIJ Jazzmaster.
>
>
>
> --- In , "Jerry" <jerry.soetewey@b...>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for the comment on the strings used by the ventures.
> > I got some 0.11 from "Pyramid" I'll guess I'll try those on my
CIJ
> > Jazzmaster after I upgraded the pick ups to AV RI ones.
> >
> > Jerry S.
> >
> >
> > So what gauge strings could the Ventures been using in Japan '65.
> > They are obviously round wound do to all the fingernail
scrapping.
> > But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did
they,
> > and Nokie is just rippin' it up on some of those songs.
>
>
>
> .
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> But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did they
all you had to do was buy a set of mediums or lights, throw away the
low E, put the low A on for the E and work your way up. then we used
a 5 string banjo string for the high E. we called this "rigging" the
strings - James Burton was one of the first to do this I think
There was a set available with an unwound G - it was the Gretsch Chet
Atkins Rhythm n' Blues set - I pretty much used these on my Guild
Starfire
I worked in a music store in the mid 60's.....
Boulder Bob
Yes, the first person I heard of doing this was James Burton. He at
least popularized it, and said it was the secret to his sound
on "Suzie-Q"
It's funny how things come back around. Anything below a set of
11's feels too light to me now, but when I first started playing in
the mid 80's, I almost couldn't buy light enough strings. a set of
8's were the way to go.
"Bob Cannistraro" <cannistraro@e...> wrote:
>
> > But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did
they
>
> all you had to do was buy a set of mediums or lights, throw away
the
> low E, put the low A on for the E and work your way up. then we
used
> a 5 string banjo string for the high E. we called this "rigging"
the
> strings - James Burton was one of the first to do this I think
>
> There was a set available with an unwound G - it was the Gretsch
Chet
> Atkins Rhythm n' Blues set - I pretty much used these on my Guild
> Starfire
>
> I worked in a music store in the mid 60's.....
>
> Boulder Bob
Bob,
Thanks for clearing this up. Did they have round-wounds back then, or as
popular myth goes, just flatwounds?
I was a toddler in the mid 60's...
BN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Cannistraro [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:13 PM
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Live in Japan '65
>
>
>
> > But they didn't have anything lighther than 11s back then did they
>
> all you had to do was buy a set of mediums or lights, throw away the
> low E, put the low A on for the E and work your way up. then we used
> a 5 string banjo string for the high E. we called this "rigging" the
> strings - James Burton was one of the first to do this I think
>
> There was a set available with an unwound G - it was the Gretsch Chet
> Atkins Rhythm n' Blues set - I pretty much used these on my Guild
> Starfire
>
> I worked in a music store in the mid 60's.....
>
> Boulder Bob
>
