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Hi all,
I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no tomorrow
when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or body. I
called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really obnoxious.
Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more shielding in
the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a wire
coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I sandwiched it
between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate the
buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any way.
Thanks.
Assuming that your guitar doesn't have any bad grounds in the circuit, I'd
suspect room noise. Have you tried the guitar in different locations?
Sometimes I find a room is really really noisy, and others are very quiet.
Also, does the guitar make the same amount of noisy regardless of which
direction it is facing? I've found that bad room rf can usually be handled by
facing a different wall, etc. Sometimes pointing the headstock towards a corner
is quietest. Go figure.
jimmywilseylives <> wrote:
Hi all,
I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no tomorrow
when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or body. I
called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really obnoxious.
Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more shielding in
the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a wire
coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I sandwiched it
between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate the
buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any way.
Thanks.
.
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What Mel said..and make sure that wire you found is wrapped around one of
the trem plate screws.it is a ground wire..some of the buzz should dissipate
when you touch the strings as well.is the amp grounded? Other sources of
help: www.fenderforum.com <> .
The fabulous Mr. Shine may chime in with some helpful hints.
Good luck,
-Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Mel Waldorf [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 2:10 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] 62 AV Jag buzzing...
Assuming that your guitar doesn't have any bad grounds in the circuit, I'd
suspect room noise. Have you tried the guitar in different locations?
Sometimes I find a room is really really noisy, and others are very quiet.
Also, does the guitar make the same amount of noisy regardless of which
direction it is facing? I've found that bad room rf can usually be handled
by facing a different wall, etc. Sometimes pointing the headstock towards a
corner is quietest. Go figure.
jimmywilseylives <> wrote:
Hi all,
I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no tomorrow
when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or body. I
called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really obnoxious.
Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more shielding in
the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a wire
coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I sandwiched it
between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate the
buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any way.
Thanks.
.
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Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and buzzing, take a guitar cord
and touch the control plate {lower} with one end, and the tailpiece with the
other end. Be careful not to touch the the meat parts with you hand or it will
interfere with the test. Does making that connection lower the level off buzz?
If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig contact with the
tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a hole to the tailpiece cavity,
that needs to have the bare wire between the body and the tailpiece when the
tailpiece is screwed down to make the ground connection. I know you already
looked at that, but the test will determine if it's making contact.
The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on{middle position},
because they are reverse wound, and reverse magnetic polarity from each other.
Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the metel "keepers" on the
pickups, and the extensive shielding inside the body.
And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even drill a hole for the
ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of copper tape on top of the body
because I haven't got around to drilling the holes in my two MIJ Jags.
good luck,
-dave
jimmywilseylives <> wrote:
Hi all,
I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no tomorrow
when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or body. I
called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really obnoxious.
Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more shielding in
the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a wire
coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I sandwiched it
between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate the
buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any way.
Thanks.
.
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Dave,
Thanks for the lenghty reply. I appreciate your time in writing
to help.
Well, I did try your test. I plugged in the Jag, took a cable and
held it by the plastic sleeving and not the shielding and touched
the control plate to the strings and trem plate ---> nothing really
happened. When I touched the plates with my finger it was like
someone turned a switch off. It was that dramatic. I checked
continuity of the cable going into the Jag by checking one end of it
with one probe and the other probe on the jack plate. No problem.
Continuity of the rest of the Jag was good. ??? I dunno what's next.
Thanks. Dario
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and buzzing, take
a guitar cord and touch the control plate {lower} with one end, and
the tailpiece with the other end. Be careful not to touch the the
meat parts with you hand or it will interfere with the test. Does
making that connection lower the level off buzz?
>
> If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig contact
with the tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a hole to
the tailpiece cavity, that needs to have the bare wire between the
body and the tailpiece when the tailpiece is screwed down to make
the ground connection. I know you already looked at that, but the
test will determine if it's making contact.
>
> The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on{middle
position}, because they are reverse wound, and reverse magnetic
polarity from each other.
>
> Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the
metel "keepers" on the pickups, and the extensive shielding inside
the body.
>
> And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even drill a
hole for the ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of copper
tape on top of the body because I haven't got around to drilling the
holes in my two MIJ Jags.
>
> good luck,
> -dave
> jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no
tomorrow
> when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or body. I
> called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really
obnoxious.
> Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more shielding
in
> the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a wire
> coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I sandwiched
it
> between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate the
> buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any way.
> Thanks.
>
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Well, Do the same check from the control plate that has the output jack to the
upper control plate, the small switch plate, and the metal "keepers" that
surround the pickups
Is there buzz with all combonations of pickups?
The brass plates inside need to be grounded, but it's unlikely that they were
not soldered to ground.
When I go back to Fender on Monday I'll talk to some people about it. I have
been doing repair work in the Fender final assembly dept.for the last couple of
months, so I should be able to find the answer. Playing guitar is more enjoyable
than working on them!
-dave
jimmywilseylives <> wrote:
Dave,
Thanks for the lenghty reply. I appreciate your time in writing
to help.
Well, I did try your test. I plugged in the Jag, took a cable and
held it by the plastic sleeving and not the shielding and touched
the control plate to the strings and trem plate ---> nothing really
happened. When I touched the plates with my finger it was like
someone turned a switch off. It was that dramatic. I checked
continuity of the cable going into the Jag by checking one end of it
with one probe and the other probe on the jack plate. No problem.
Continuity of the rest of the Jag was good. ??? I dunno what's next.
Thanks. Dario
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and buzzing, take
a guitar cord and touch the control plate {lower} with one end, and
the tailpiece with the other end. Be careful not to touch the the
meat parts with you hand or it will interfere with the test. Does
making that connection lower the level off buzz?
>
> If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig contact
with the tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a hole to
the tailpiece cavity, that needs to have the bare wire between the
body and the tailpiece when the tailpiece is screwed down to make
the ground connection. I know you already looked at that, but the
test will determine if it's making contact.
>
> The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on{middle
position}, because they are reverse wound, and reverse magnetic
polarity from each other.
>
> Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the
metel "keepers" on the pickups, and the extensive shielding inside
the body.
>
> And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even drill a
hole for the ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of copper
tape on top of the body because I haven't got around to drilling the
holes in my two MIJ Jags.
>
> good luck,
> -dave
> jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no
tomorrow
> when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or body. I
> called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really
obnoxious.
> Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more shielding
in
> the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a wire
> coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I sandwiched
it
> between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate the
> buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any way.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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Dave,
Thanks for the input. I will see if what you suggested works and
report back. I appreciate your time, thought and advice. Have a most
superb New Year! Dario
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> Well, Do the same check from the control plate that has the output
jack to the upper control plate, the small switch plate, and the
metal "keepers" that surround the pickups
>
> Is there buzz with all combonations of pickups?
>
> The brass plates inside need to be grounded, but it's unlikely
that they were not soldered to ground.
>
> When I go back to Fender on Monday I'll talk to some people about
it. I have been doing repair work in the Fender final assembly
dept.for the last couple of months, so I should be able to find the
answer. Playing guitar is more enjoyable than working on them!
>
> -dave
>
> jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Dave,
> Thanks for the lenghty reply. I appreciate your time in writing
> to help.
> Well, I did try your test. I plugged in the Jag, took a cable
and
> held it by the plastic sleeving and not the shielding and touched
> the control plate to the strings and trem plate ---> nothing
really
> happened. When I touched the plates with my finger it was like
> someone turned a switch off. It was that dramatic. I checked
> continuity of the cable going into the Jag by checking one end of
it
> with one probe and the other probe on the jack plate. No problem.
> Continuity of the rest of the Jag was good. ??? I dunno what's
next.
> Thanks. Dario
>
> --- In , dave wronski
<stickmandw@y...>
> wrote:
> > Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and buzzing,
take
> a guitar cord and touch the control plate {lower} with one end,
and
> the tailpiece with the other end. Be careful not to touch the the
> meat parts with you hand or it will interfere with the test. Does
> making that connection lower the level off buzz?
> >
> > If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig contact
> with the tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a hole
to
> the tailpiece cavity, that needs to have the bare wire between the
> body and the tailpiece when the tailpiece is screwed down to make
> the ground connection. I know you already looked at that, but the
> test will determine if it's making contact.
> >
> > The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on{middle
> position}, because they are reverse wound, and reverse magnetic
> polarity from each other.
> >
> > Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the
> metel "keepers" on the pickups, and the extensive shielding inside
> the body.
> >
> > And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even drill a
> hole for the ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of copper
> tape on top of the body because I haven't got around to drilling
the
> holes in my two MIJ Jags.
> >
> > good luck,
> > -dave
> > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no
> tomorrow
> > when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or body.
I
> > called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really
> obnoxious.
> > Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more
shielding
> in
> > the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a
wire
> > coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I
sandwiched
> it
> > between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate
the
> > buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any way.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
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Dave,
Could a bad switch cause these issues. I checked continuity for
everything in the guitar and everything checked out ok. I tried the
sawtooth shields with the guitar cord check and still got the same
result. The pickups seem to have a little paraffin or wax on them
and I don't know if it's related. In response to the comment you
made on the Jag being quieter than a Strat, when I'm touching any
metal on the guitar the dampening effect it does make it very quiet
like a Strat in humbucking positions. When I let go ----> Buzz. When
I touch the metal or strings again ----> PoP! PoP! ???
Over a grand and sounds good if I just hold it and don't play it.
I agree, playing guitars is more fun than fixin' 'em. Thanks for
your help. Dario
--- In , "jimmywilseylives"
<jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Dave,
> Thanks for the input. I will see if what you suggested works
and
> report back. I appreciate your time, thought and advice. Have a
most
> superb New Year! Dario
>
> --- In , dave wronski
<stickmandw@y...>
> wrote:
> > Well, Do the same check from the control plate that has the
output
> jack to the upper control plate, the small switch plate, and the
> metal "keepers" that surround the pickups
> >
> > Is there buzz with all combonations of pickups?
> >
> > The brass plates inside need to be grounded, but it's unlikely
> that they were not soldered to ground.
> >
> > When I go back to Fender on Monday I'll talk to some people
about
> it. I have been doing repair work in the Fender final assembly
> dept.for the last couple of months, so I should be able to find
the
> answer. Playing guitar is more enjoyable than working on them!
> >
> > -dave
> >
> > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > Thanks for the lenghty reply. I appreciate your time in
writing
> > to help.
> > Well, I did try your test. I plugged in the Jag, took a cable
> and
> > held it by the plastic sleeving and not the shielding and
touched
> > the control plate to the strings and trem plate ---> nothing
> really
> > happened. When I touched the plates with my finger it was like
> > someone turned a switch off. It was that dramatic. I checked
> > continuity of the cable going into the Jag by checking one end
of
> it
> > with one probe and the other probe on the jack plate. No
problem.
> > Continuity of the rest of the Jag was good. ??? I dunno what's
> next.
> > Thanks. Dario
> >
> > --- In , dave wronski
> <stickmandw@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and buzzing,
> take
> > a guitar cord and touch the control plate {lower} with one end,
> and
> > the tailpiece with the other end. Be careful not to touch the
the
> > meat parts with you hand or it will interfere with the test.
Does
> > making that connection lower the level off buzz?
> > >
> > > If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig contact
> > with the tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a hole
> to
> > the tailpiece cavity, that needs to have the bare wire between
the
> > body and the tailpiece when the tailpiece is screwed down to
make
> > the ground connection. I know you already looked at that, but
the
> > test will determine if it's making contact.
> > >
> > > The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on
{middle
> > position}, because they are reverse wound, and reverse magnetic
> > polarity from each other.
> > >
> > > Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the
> > metel "keepers" on the pickups, and the extensive shielding
inside
> > the body.
> > >
> > > And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even drill
a
> > hole for the ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of
copper
> > tape on top of the body because I haven't got around to drilling
> the
> > holes in my two MIJ Jags.
> > >
> > > good luck,
> > > -dave
> > > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no
> > tomorrow
> > > when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or
body.
> I
> > > called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really
> > obnoxious.
> > > Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more
> shielding
> > in
> > > the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a
> wire
> > > coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I
> sandwiched
> > it
> > > between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate
> the
> > > buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any
way.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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I don't think it's a switch problem. They either make contact, or don't. If
everything turns out to be correct on you guitar, you can minimize noise by
painting the inside of the body with grounding paint. I did this with a couple
of my guitars - my white Jagur, and blonde "Mary Kay" Strat. It does help lower
the buzz level. You also have to screw in a wired terminal connected to ground
into the body so the lead paint is part of the gound structure. But. you may not
want to start messing up you new guitar like that. If you decide to do it, shake
the paint well so the metal is evenly distributed. Then check with an Ohm meter
that the ground is effective at different points of the body.
-dave
jimmywilseylives <> wrote:
Dave,
Could a bad switch cause these issues. I checked continuity for
everything in the guitar and everything checked out ok. I tried the
sawtooth shields with the guitar cord check and still got the same
result. The pickups seem to have a little paraffin or wax on them
and I don't know if it's related. In response to the comment you
made on the Jag being quieter than a Strat, when I'm touching any
metal on the guitar the dampening effect it does make it very quiet
like a Strat in humbucking positions. When I let go ----> Buzz. When
I touch the metal or strings again ----> PoP! PoP! ???
Over a grand and sounds good if I just hold it and don't play it.
I agree, playing guitars is more fun than fixin' 'em. Thanks for
your help. Dario
--- In , "jimmywilseylives"
<jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Dave,
> Thanks for the input. I will see if what you suggested works
and
> report back. I appreciate your time, thought and advice. Have a
most
> superb New Year! Dario
>
> --- In , dave wronski
<stickmandw@y...>
> wrote:
> > Well, Do the same check from the control plate that has the
output
> jack to the upper control plate, the small switch plate, and the
> metal "keepers" that surround the pickups
> >
> > Is there buzz with all combonations of pickups?
> >
> > The brass plates inside need to be grounded, but it's unlikely
> that they were not soldered to ground.
> >
> > When I go back to Fender on Monday I'll talk to some people
about
> it. I have been doing repair work in the Fender final assembly
> dept.for the last couple of months, so I should be able to find
the
> answer. Playing guitar is more enjoyable than working on them!
> >
> > -dave
> >
> > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > Thanks for the lenghty reply. I appreciate your time in
writing
> > to help.
> > Well, I did try your test. I plugged in the Jag, took a cable
> and
> > held it by the plastic sleeving and not the shielding and
touched
> > the control plate to the strings and trem plate ---> nothing
> really
> > happened. When I touched the plates with my finger it was like
> > someone turned a switch off. It was that dramatic. I checked
> > continuity of the cable going into the Jag by checking one end
of
> it
> > with one probe and the other probe on the jack plate. No
problem.
> > Continuity of the rest of the Jag was good. ??? I dunno what's
> next.
> > Thanks. Dario
> >
> > --- In , dave wronski
> <stickmandw@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and buzzing,
> take
> > a guitar cord and touch the control plate {lower} with one end,
> and
> > the tailpiece with the other end. Be careful not to touch the
the
> > meat parts with you hand or it will interfere with the test.
Does
> > making that connection lower the level off buzz?
> > >
> > > If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig contact
> > with the tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a hole
> to
> > the tailpiece cavity, that needs to have the bare wire between
the
> > body and the tailpiece when the tailpiece is screwed down to
make
> > the ground connection. I know you already looked at that, but
the
> > test will determine if it's making contact.
> > >
> > > The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on
{middle
> > position}, because they are reverse wound, and reverse magnetic
> > polarity from each other.
> > >
> > > Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the
> > metel "keepers" on the pickups, and the extensive shielding
inside
> > the body.
> > >
> > > And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even drill
a
> > hole for the ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of
copper
> > tape on top of the body because I haven't got around to drilling
> the
> > holes in my two MIJ Jags.
> > >
> > > good luck,
> > > -dave
> > > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no
> > tomorrow
> > > when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or
body.
> I
> > > called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really
> > obnoxious.
> > > Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more
> shielding
> > in
> > > the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found a
> wire
> > > coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I
> sandwiched
> > it
> > > between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would eliminate
> the
> > > buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any
way.
> > > Thanks.
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Dave,
I know this is probably a no but if I brought my Jag down to the
Fender Corona site could I get this thing resolved? I live in OC.
This is truly the most time-consuming drag in trying to figure out
something here I don't know anything about. Thanks for your help. It
has truly been most helpful and an eductaion into the whole picture
of the electronics associated with these Jags. Thanks. Dario G.
Gomez (aka jimmywilseylives)
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> I don't think it's a switch problem. They either make contact, or
don't. If everything turns out to be correct on you guitar, you can
minimize noise by painting the inside of the body with grounding
paint. I did this with a couple of my guitars - my white Jagur, and
blonde "Mary Kay" Strat. It does help lower the buzz level. You also
have to screw in a wired terminal connected to ground into the body
so the lead paint is part of the gound structure. But. you may not
want to start messing up you new guitar like that. If you decide to
do it, shake the paint well so the metal is evenly distributed. Then
check with an Ohm meter that the ground is effective at different
points of the body.
>
> -dave
>
> jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Dave,
> Could a bad switch cause these issues. I checked continuity for
> everything in the guitar and everything checked out ok. I tried
the
> sawtooth shields with the guitar cord check and still got the same
> result. The pickups seem to have a little paraffin or wax on them
> and I don't know if it's related. In response to the comment you
> made on the Jag being quieter than a Strat, when I'm touching any
> metal on the guitar the dampening effect it does make it very
quiet
> like a Strat in humbucking positions. When I let go ----> Buzz.
When
> I touch the metal or strings again ----> PoP! PoP! ???
> Over a grand and sounds good if I just hold it and don't play
it.
> I agree, playing guitars is more fun than fixin' 'em. Thanks for
> your help. Dario
>
>
> --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > Thanks for the input. I will see if what you suggested works
> and
> > report back. I appreciate your time, thought and advice. Have a
> most
> > superb New Year! Dario
> >
> > --- In , dave wronski
> <stickmandw@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Well, Do the same check from the control plate that has the
> output
> > jack to the upper control plate, the small switch plate, and the
> > metal "keepers" that surround the pickups
> > >
> > > Is there buzz with all combonations of pickups?
> > >
> > > The brass plates inside need to be grounded, but it's unlikely
> > that they were not soldered to ground.
> > >
> > > When I go back to Fender on Monday I'll talk to some people
> about
> > it. I have been doing repair work in the Fender final assembly
> > dept.for the last couple of months, so I should be able to find
> the
> > answer. Playing guitar is more enjoyable than working on them!
> > >
> > > -dave
> > >
> > > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > Dave,
> > > Thanks for the lenghty reply. I appreciate your time in
> writing
> > > to help.
> > > Well, I did try your test. I plugged in the Jag, took a
cable
> > and
> > > held it by the plastic sleeving and not the shielding and
> touched
> > > the control plate to the strings and trem plate ---> nothing
> > really
> > > happened. When I touched the plates with my finger it was like
> > > someone turned a switch off. It was that dramatic. I checked
> > > continuity of the cable going into the Jag by checking one end
> of
> > it
> > > with one probe and the other probe on the jack plate. No
> problem.
> > > Continuity of the rest of the Jag was good. ??? I dunno what's
> > next.
> > > Thanks. Dario
> > >
> > > --- In , dave wronski
> > <stickmandw@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and
buzzing,
> > take
> > > a guitar cord and touch the control plate {lower} with one
end,
> > and
> > > the tailpiece with the other end. Be careful not to touch the
> the
> > > meat parts with you hand or it will interfere with the test.
> Does
> > > making that connection lower the level off buzz?
> > > >
> > > > If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig
contact
> > > with the tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a
hole
> > to
> > > the tailpiece cavity, that needs to have the bare wire between
> the
> > > body and the tailpiece when the tailpiece is screwed down to
> make
> > > the ground connection. I know you already looked at that, but
> the
> > > test will determine if it's making contact.
> > > >
> > > > The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on
> {middle
> > > position}, because they are reverse wound, and reverse
magnetic
> > > polarity from each other.
> > > >
> > > > Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the
> > > metel "keepers" on the pickups, and the extensive shielding
> inside
> > > the body.
> > > >
> > > > And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even
drill
> a
> > > hole for the ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of
> copper
> > > tape on top of the body because I haven't got around to
drilling
> > the
> > > holes in my two MIJ Jags.
> > > >
> > > > good luck,
> > > > -dave
> > > > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no
> > > tomorrow
> > > > when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or
> body.
> > I
> > > > called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really
> > > obnoxious.
> > > > Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more
> > shielding
> > > in
> > > > the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found
a
> > wire
> > > > coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I
> > sandwiched
> > > it
> > > > between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would
eliminate
> > the
> > > > buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any
> way.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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Hey Dario,
It sounds like you may have a ground problem somewhere in the guitar's
circuit; but it could also be the room like Mel suggested. Have you tried
other rooms in the house, other electrical outlets, etc?
If it keeps doing that, take it to a good guitar tech and let him check it
out. Unfortunately, it seems like techs who know about Jaguars are few and
far between.
I know nothing about California geography, so I may look stupid here, but
you said you lived in OC. Steve Soest, renknowned guitar repair guy, and
guitar player for the Torquays has a shop near Orange, California. This guy
knows all about Jags and Jazzmasters, maybe he can help you out:
Good luck!
BN
Brian,
Thanks for the advice. Coincidentally, I called Steve's shop
before I wrote my last post so I agree he would be the best source
here. I think I may take it tomorrow to Sam Ash and try it there and
see what happens. If I get the same issue then I'll know for sure,
absolutely, it's the guitar. I have a sneaky suspicion it is the
pickups. I am probably 100% wrong but everything else seems
good. ??? I had tried it in the garage and same thing happened
there. No fluorescent lights on or anything. I have tried it with
the computer off as well. ???. Thanks for the help Brian. Take care.
Dario (jimmywilseylives)
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...>
wrote:
> Hey Dario,
>
> It sounds like you may have a ground problem somewhere in the
guitar's
> circuit; but it could also be the room like Mel suggested. Have
you tried
> other rooms in the house, other electrical outlets, etc?
>
> If it keeps doing that, take it to a good guitar tech and let him
check it
> out. Unfortunately, it seems like techs who know about Jaguars are
few and
> far between.
>
> I know nothing about California geography, so I may look stupid
here, but
> you said you lived in OC. Steve Soest, renknowned guitar repair
guy, and
> guitar player for the Torquays has a shop near Orange, California.
This guy
> knows all about Jags and Jazzmasters, maybe he can help you out:
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> BN
