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Question for you Jaguar owners

Jerry (whipeoutboy63) - 03 Sep 2003 00:39:41

Hi,
I have fallen to "sirene call" and got me a 2nd hand Jag (a mid 90ties
Japanes example) it's a very nice guitar, despite the fact that it has
been said that these are not as good quality wise, I checked the guitar
all over, wiring, hardware, body, arm, tuners etc...and they all
resemble what they should do. I found no flaws so far and it looks lika
a very well build instrument.
The previous owner had it stringed up with 0.9 roundwounds....so it
sounded rather sissy....
I want to put on 0.11 d'Addario Chrome Flatwounds on it. But would I
need to "shim" the neck (add a bit to the tuss rod before putting on the
flatwound strings) I done this with my Jazzmaster as I notided that the
higher tension of the Flatwounds made the neck bow a bit more and the
action was getting a tat to high....
TIA,
Jerry.
P.S. I got the Jag for a nice price including Hard shell case, very hard
to ressist.....

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jdean081850 - 03 Sep 2003 00:58:40

--- In , "Jerry" <jerry.soetewey@b...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have fallen to "sirene call" and got me a 2nd hand Jag (a mid
90ties
> Japanes example) it's a very nice guitar, despite the fact that it
has
> been said that these are not as good quality wise, I checked the
guitar
> all over, wiring, hardware, body, arm, tuners etc...and they all
> resemble what they should do. I found no flaws so far and it looks
lika
> a very well build instrument.
>
> The previous owner had it stringed up with 0.9 roundwounds....so it
> sounded rather sissy....
> I want to put on 0.11 d'Addario Chrome Flatwounds on it. But would I
> need to "shim" the neck (add a bit to the tuss rod before putting
on the
> flatwound strings) I done this with my Jazzmaster as I notided that
the
> higher tension of the Flatwounds made the neck bow a bit more and
the
> action was getting a tat to high....
>
> TIA,
>
> Jerry.
>
> P.S. I got the Jag for a nice price including Hard shell case, very
hard
> to ressist.....
Hello Jerry,
My Jaguar needed about an eighth to a quarter turn adjustment of the
truss rod when I put Fender 0.11 Flatwounds on it. Even though mine is
American made, I would think that the necks would be about the same.
Good luck. Those flatwounds really make it sound good to my ears.

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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 03 Sep 2003 19:29:36

Hi Jerry,
Congrats on the Jag. My guess is that you will have to adjust the truss rod.
You may or may not have to shim the neck. You might want to as I don't think
the Japanese Jags were shimmed at the factory, whereas the American reissues
seem to be. But I would see how it feels after getting the truss rod
adjusted and your action set after the flatwounds go on there.
Good luck,
BN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:40 AM
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Question for you Jaguar owners
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have fallen to "sirene call" and got me a 2nd hand Jag (a mid 90ties
> Japanes example) it's a very nice guitar, despite the fact that it has
> been said that these are not as good quality wise, I checked the guitar
> all over, wiring, hardware, body, arm, tuners etc...and they all
> resemble what they should do. I found no flaws so far and it looks lika
> a very well build instrument.
>
> The previous owner had it stringed up with 0.9 roundwounds....so it
> sounded rather sissy....
> I want to put on 0.11 d'Addario Chrome Flatwounds on it. But would I
> need to "shim" the neck (add a bit to the tuss rod before putting on the
> flatwound strings) I done this with my Jazzmaster as I notided that the
> higher tension of the Flatwounds made the neck bow a bit more and the
> action was getting a tat to high....
>
> TIA,
>
> Jerry.
>
> P.S. I got the Jag for a nice price including Hard shell case, very hard
> to ressist.....

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Jerry (whipeoutboy63) - 04 Sep 2003 10:43:10

Hello Brian,
Thanks for your comment. I got a question; What do you mean by "Shimming
the neck"?
I added a bit to the tuss rod, but It will need a bit more. I did
succeed in setting it up, not an easy jo, but the stock bridge works
(with a bit of adjustment, I filed out the saddles a bit, so the strings
won't roll over them while playing.
It's a nice guitar. I also notice it had the brass shielding. I was told
this is usually not found on MIJ/CIJ Jaguars. It is also grounded on
this brass shielding.
I also noticed that the neck pocket has a pinkish shade, usually not
associated with Basswood...(it's a sunburst)The grain also looks
different.
But I'm no expert on woods. The stock MIJ Pups sound a bit thin, but I
can hear the "bite" usually associated with the Jag.
If the stock bridge works, I'll keep it, It doesn't seam to rattle that
much so...(Some teflon and liquid teflon took care of that)
But is't a drag to set up well.
I'm also wondering it its better if the stings don't touch the bridge
aft of the saddles, I got it set up like that now and it reduced the
rattle. Or was I doing what I was supposed to do?
Anuway thanks for the advice, it's quiet not the same beast then a
Jazzmaster...
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Neal [mailto:]
Sent: donderdag 4 september 2003 2:30
To:
Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Question for you Jaguar owners
Hi Jerry,
Congrats on the Jag. My guess is that you will have to adjust the truss
rod. You may or may not have to shim the neck. You might want to as I
don't think the Japanese Jags were shimmed at the factory, whereas the
American reissues seem to be. But I would see how it feels after getting
the truss rod adjusted and your action set after the flatwounds go on
there.
Good luck,
BN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:40 AM
> To:
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Question for you Jaguar owners
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have fallen to "sirene call" and got me a 2nd hand Jag (a mid 90ties
> Japanes example) it's a very nice guitar, despite the fact that it has
> been said that these are not as good quality wise, I checked the
> guitar all over, wiring, hardware, body, arm, tuners etc...and they
> all resemble what they should do. I found no flaws so far and it looks
> lika a very well build instrument.
>
> The previous owner had it stringed up with 0.9 roundwounds....so it
> sounded rather sissy.... I want to put on 0.11 d'Addario Chrome
> Flatwounds on it. But would I need to "shim" the neck (add a bit to
> the tuss rod before putting on the flatwound strings) I done this with
> my Jazzmaster as I notided that the higher tension of the Flatwounds
> made the neck bow a bit more and the action was getting a tat to
> high....
>
> TIA,
>
> Jerry.
>
> P.S. I got the Jag for a nice price including Hard shell case, very
> hard to ressist.....
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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 04 Sep 2003 18:38:56

Hi Jerry,
> Thanks for your comment. I got a question; What do you mean by "Shimming
> the neck"?
Shimming the neck is where you place a small "shim" in the neck pocket. The
"shim" on my Jaguar is a couple of small strips of brown pressed wood/paper
(it came from Fender like this). Other people have used a small piece of a
credit card or guitar pick. You place it near the guitar end of the neck
pocket. The idea is to get the neck to angle back a bit. This will lower
your action and get you more string angle over the bridge saddles (to
eliminate string skipping).
Here is an explanation from Fender (search for "Shimming on this page):
According to Jim Shine on the Fender Forum, the Jaguar was the only guitar
that came like this from the factory. Many people speculate that it was
easier to shim the neck rather than cut the neck pocket at an angle using
the tools/techniques of the 60's.
> I'm also wondering it its better if the stings don't touch the bridge
> aft of the saddles, I got it set up like that now and it reduced the
> rattle. Or was I doing what I was supposed to do?
Yes, thats a good idea. Remember you can play with the saddle heights AND
the bridge height. Play with these variables to get the strings free from
touching anything back there.
Good luck! Do you have a picture?
BN

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