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Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the Beloved
Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them they get
better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me away
everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have ever
heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which gives
his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have tried
reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't the
same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good (cheap)
alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred bucks on
a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read reviews
and it didn't sound too good.
My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape echos! That
echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.' It is a
result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances apart
from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats at
different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all the
old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows and the
Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this effect.
Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were able to
get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as Meazzi
and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies such as
Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and Dynacord.
Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the first
three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of internet time
discussing all these various echo units. You can explore some of
their discussions here:
(lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these pages,
too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause they
pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few years
ago. :)
This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern equipment. I
know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to reproduce
this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo times.
But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get the warm
treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so much to the
tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key for any
self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as expected -
responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past that
programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos as the
old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their website
here:
I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was worth
every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I recall
correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units, and built
in all the nuances of those machines, without their unreliability!
You see, the problem with those units is that they are very rare, and
very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players over 20
years old are still working? And most of these echo machines are
over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of time,
and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are looking to
the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been done. It's
not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more convenient.
Anyway, I hope that helps.
Ivan
--- In , "kahunatikiman" <chris@b...>
wrote:
> Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the Beloved
> Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them they
get
> better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me away
> everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have ever
> heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which
gives
> his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have tried
> reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't the
> same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good
(cheap)
> alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred bucks
on
> a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read
reviews
> and it didn't sound too good.
Ivan,
I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with antique
units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And Fulltone is
comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard rumours
that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but I will
believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as well as
the Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only has
two heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their opinions
about various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec sheet for
the Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital unit--I
just never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even pretty
critical of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units, that is,
until you get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good aspects
to the Zoom model appears to be the patch editor software that is
included, plus, they are less than $200 on line. There is a new delay
pedal from Yamaha, the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave reviews
from some players. I read that EFTP had evaluated it against the Zoom,
and gone with the Zoom, but then I also read that they would be coming
out with patches for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands which can
be programmed and then connected in serial or parallel. It was
developed in conjunction with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but I
haven't seen anything quite this versatile without going to the TC
Electronic 2290 level. Have you heard anything about this unit? You
seem to have a pretty good opinion of the Zoom unit. Have you tried to
program it?
John
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
> My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape echos! That
> echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.' It is a
> result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances apart
> from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats at
> different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all the
> old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows and the
> Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this effect.
> Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were able to
> get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as Meazzi
> and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies such as
> Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and Dynacord.
> Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the first
> three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of internet time
> discussing all these various echo units. You can explore some of
> their discussions here:
>
>
>
> (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these pages,
> too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
>
> Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause they
> pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few years
> ago. :)
>
> This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern equipment. I
> know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to reproduce
> this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo times.
> But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get the warm
> treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so much to the
> tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key for any
> self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as expected -
> responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past that
> programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos as the
> old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their website
> here:
>
>
>
> I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was worth
> every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I recall
> correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units, and built
> in all the nuances of those machines, without their unreliability!
> You see, the problem with those units is that they are very rare, and
> very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players over 20
> years old are still working? And most of these echo machines are
> over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of time,
> and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are looking to
> the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been done. It's
> not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more convenient.
>
> Anyway, I hope that helps.
> Ivan
>
> --- In , "kahunatikiman" <chris@b...>
> wrote:
> > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the Beloved
> > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them they
> get
> > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me away
> > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have ever
> > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which
> gives
> > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have tried
> > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't the
> > same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good
> (cheap)
> > alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred bucks
> on
> > a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read
> reviews
> > and it didn't sound too good.
Green tube Echoplex's are almost perfect, but the "Alantis" has me interested. Cick on the rack-mount "Alantis"
picture, then "English", if that's your preferance.
-dave
ohsyrus <> wrote:
Ivan,
I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with antique
units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And Fulltone is
comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard rumours
that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but I will
believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as well as
the Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only has
two heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their opinions
about various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec sheet for
the Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital unit--I
just never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even pretty
critical of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units, that is,
until you get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good aspects
to the Zoom model appears to be the patch editor software that is
included, plus, they are less than $200 on line. There is a new delay
pedal from Yamaha, the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave reviews
from some players. I read that EFTP had evaluated it against the Zoom,
and gone with the Zoom, but then I also read that they would be coming
out with patches for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands which can
be programmed and then connected in serial or parallel. It was
developed in conjunction with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but I
haven't seen anything quite this versatile without going to the TC
Electronic 2290 level. Have you heard anything about this unit? You
seem to have a pretty good opinion of the Zoom unit. Have you tried to
program it?
John
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
> My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape echos! That
> echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.' It is a
> result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances apart
> from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats at
> different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all the
> old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows and the
> Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this effect.
> Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were able to
> get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as Meazzi
> and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies such as
> Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and Dynacord.
> Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the first
> three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of internet time
> discussing all these various echo units. You can explore some of
> their discussions here:
>
>
>
> (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these pages,
> too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
>
> Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause they
> pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few years
> ago. :)
>
> This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern equipment. I
> know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to reproduce
> this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo times.
> But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get the warm
> treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so much to the
> tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key for any
> self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as expected -
> responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past that
> programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos as the
> old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their website
> here:
>
>
>
> I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was worth
> every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I recall
> correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units, and built
> in all the nuances of those machines, without their unreliability!
> You see, the problem with those units is that they are very rare, and
> very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players over 20
> years old are still working? And most of these echo machines are
> over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of time,
> and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are looking to
> the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been done. It's
> not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more convenient.
>
> Anyway, I hope that helps.
> Ivan
>
> --- In , "kahunatikiman" <chris@b...>
> wrote:
> > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the Beloved
> > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them they
> get
> > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me away
> > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have ever
> > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which
> gives
> > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have tried
> > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't the
> > same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good
> (cheap)
> > alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred bucks
> on
> > a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read
> reviews
> > and it didn't sound too good.
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Hi,
For the "Atlantis" you will have to pull out the "big bucks"....I think
it has a retail price of $1000 to $1500.
But I heard some marvelous comment about it....and everything is
possible.
Also WEM who made the original "copycat" has made a "vintage reissue
model" of the original unit with some "new technology" updates.
Jerry S.
-----Original Message-----
From: dave wronski [mailto:]
Sent: zondag 7 september 2003 15:53
To:
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: tape echo
Green tube Echoplex's are almost perfect, but the "Alantis" has me
interested. Cick on the
rack-mount "Alantis" picture, then "English", if that's your preferance.
-dave
ohsyrus <> wrote:
Ivan,
I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with antique
units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And Fulltone is
comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard rumours
that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but I will
believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as well as the
Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only has two
heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their opinions about
various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec sheet for the
Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital unit--I just
never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even pretty critical
of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units, that is, until you
get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good aspects to the Zoom
model appears to be the patch editor software that is included, plus,
they are less than $200 on line. There is a new delay pedal from Yamaha,
the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave reviews from some players. I
read that EFTP had evaluated it against the Zoom, and gone with the
Zoom, but then I also read that they would be coming out with patches
for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands which can be programmed and
then connected in serial or parallel. It was developed in conjunction
with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but I haven't seen anything quite
this versatile without going to the TC Electronic 2290 level. Have you
heard anything about this unit? You seem to have a pretty good opinion
of the Zoom unit. Have you tried to program it?
John
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
> My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape echos! That
> echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.' It is a
> result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances apart
> from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats at
> different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all the
> old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows and the
> Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this effect.
> Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were able to
> get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as Meazzi
> and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies such as
> Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and Dynacord.
> Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the first
> three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of internet time
> discussing all these various echo units. You can explore some of
> their discussions here:
>
>
>
> (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these pages,
> too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
>
> Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause they
> pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few years
> ago. :)
>
> This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern equipment. I
> know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to reproduce
> this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo times.
> But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get the warm
> treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so much to the
> tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key for any
> self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as expected -
> responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past that
> programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos as the
> old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their website
> here:
>
>
>
> I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was worth
> every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I recall
> correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units, and built
> in all the nuances of those machines, without their unreliability!
> You see, the problem with those units is that they are very rare, and
> very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players over 20
> years old are still working? And most of these echo machines are
> over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of time,
> and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are looking to
> the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been done. It's
> not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more convenient.
>
> Anyway, I hope that helps.
> Ivan
>
> --- In , "kahunatikiman" <chris@b...>
> wrote:
> > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the Beloved
> > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them they
> get
> > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me away
> > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have ever
> > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which
> gives
> > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have tried
> > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't the
> > same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good
> (cheap)
> > alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred bucks
> on
> > a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read
> reviews
> > and it didn't sound too good.
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Hi John;
Glad to see you're into all this stuff -it's a lot of fun, for sure.
However, I must say that I can be of absolutely no help as far as all
these other echo units go - haven't tried any of them. I'm aware of
some the newer real tape echo units, but I don't think any of them
have the multi-head setup, and therefore are incapable of producing
the necessary Shadows echos. I could be wrong, though... As far as
the digital units, I've heard of all of these that you mention, but
never had a chance to try them. Basically what I did is kept reading
the discussions on the Shadows lists about the relative virtues of
different units, and the overwhelmingly general consensus was the
EFTP/Zoom unit was an absolutely incredible bang for the buck. So I
bought it. I am very happy with the sound. I played through one
specialized, 'custom' digital unit (I don't remember its name, sadly)
when in England for Shadowmania 2000, and the sound of that really
blew me away - I think it was better than my Zoom but I don't think
my memory here is totally reliable, since I didn't compare them side-
by-side. However, for my Troubadours gig the Zoom's been near
perfect. I like the fact that it's all preset, and during the gig I
don't have to mess with the settings - just change the patch with the
MIDI pedalboard.
I have done very minor programming changes, but given the fact that
it already came preset with these highly specialized settings for
Shadows songs, it's completely unnecessary for me to engage in any
great editing. And I haven't been doing any original music in a
while (hopefully that'll change soon), so I don't need to tweak it
for that. quite honestly, I don't think I would use this unit for
anything else but just straight Shadows stuff. I want immediate
access to all parameters when I'm creating my own music, so I prefer
pedals with knobs. For my Space Cossacks stuff my Korg Dynamic Echo
pedal was fantastic, sounds great, very flexible (though no
multitap/staggered echos), sturdy, batteries last a long time, and it
has two easily editable presets. However, I'm very curious about the
Akai Headrush, since it may be able to do decent staggered echos
according to what I read about it. I also prefer pedals to rack-
mounted stuff, which is just a pain the...
As far as the Atlantis echo, I know there's been a fair amount of
discussion of it on the Shadows board. My understanding is that it's
absolutely excellent, from what i remember. They're used by several
people HEAVILY into 'that sound'. There are several other similar
units that are worth looking into. The two that immediately come to
mind are Amtech AGE-1 and AGE-PRO. Check 'em out.
Ivan
--- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> Ivan,
> I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
> echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with
antique
> units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And Fulltone is
> comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard
rumours
> that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but I
will
> believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as well as
> the Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only has
> two heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their opinions
> about various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec sheet
for
> the Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital unit--I
> just never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even pretty
> critical of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units, that is,
> until you get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good aspects
> to the Zoom model appears to be the patch editor software that is
> included, plus, they are less than $200 on line. There is a new
delay
> pedal from Yamaha, the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave reviews
> from some players. I read that EFTP had evaluated it against the
Zoom,
> and gone with the Zoom, but then I also read that they would be
coming
> out with patches for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands which
can
> be programmed and then connected in serial or parallel. It was
> developed in conjunction with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but I
> haven't seen anything quite this versatile without going to the TC
> Electronic 2290 level. Have you heard anything about this unit? You
> seem to have a pretty good opinion of the Zoom unit. Have you tried
to
> program it?
>
> John
>
>
> --- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
wrote:
> > My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape echos!
That
> > echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.' It
is a
> > result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances apart
> > from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats at
> > different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all the
> > old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows and
the
> > Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this
effect.
> > Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were
able to
> > get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as
Meazzi
> > and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies such
as
> > Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and
Dynacord.
> > Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the first
> > three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of internet
time
> > discussing all these various echo units. You can explore some of
> > their discussions here:
> >
> >
> >
> > (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these pages,
> > too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
> >
> > Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause
they
> > pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few
years
> > ago. :)
> >
> > This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern equipment.
I
> > know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to reproduce
> > this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> > Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> > programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo
times.
> > But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get the
warm
> > treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so much to
the
> > tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key for
any
> > self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as
expected -
> > responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past that
> > programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos as
the
> > old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their website
> > here:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was
worth
> > every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I
recall
> > correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units, and
built
> > in all the nuances of those machines, without their
unreliability!
> > You see, the problem with those units is that they are very rare,
and
> > very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players over
20
> > years old are still working? And most of these echo machines are
> > over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of
time,
> > and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are looking
to
> > the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been done.
It's
> > not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more
convenient.
> >
> > Anyway, I hope that helps.
> > Ivan
> >
> > --- In , "kahunatikiman"
<chris@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the
Beloved
> > > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them
they
> > get
> > > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me
away
> > > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have
ever
> > > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which
> > gives
> > > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have
tried
> > > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't
the
> > > same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good
> > (cheap)
> > > alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred
bucks
> > on
> > > a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read
> > reviews
> > > and it didn't sound too good.
I have a TC Electronics D-Two that I now use for delay these days. A
cool feature is that I can control the exact number of repeats, for
me it's very musical.
Another good delay is built into my Fender Cyber Twin, sounds fine to
me.
My Lexicon PCM81 has some good delays but it's a huge pain to program
so I use it for everything but delay.
Rick
>
> Green tube Echoplex's are almost perfect, but the "Alantis" has me
interested. Cick on the
rack-mount "Alantis" picture, then "English", if that's your
preferance.
> -dave
>
>
> ohsyrus <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> Ivan,
> I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
> echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with
antique
> units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And Fulltone is
> comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard
rumours
> that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but I
will
> believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as well as
> the Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only has
> two heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their opinions
> about various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec sheet
for
> the Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital unit--I
> just never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even pretty
> critical of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units, that is,
> until you get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good aspects
> to the Zoom model appears to be the patch editor software that is
> included, plus, they are less than $200 on line. There is a new
delay
> pedal from Yamaha, the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave reviews
> from some players. I read that EFTP had evaluated it against the
Zoom,
> and gone with the Zoom, but then I also read that they would be
coming
> out with patches for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands which
can
> be programmed and then connected in serial or parallel. It was
> developed in conjunction with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but I
> haven't seen anything quite this versatile without going to the TC
> Electronic 2290 level. Have you heard anything about this unit? You
> seem to have a pretty good opinion of the Zoom unit. Have you tried
to
> program it?
>
> John
>
>
> --- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
wrote:
> > My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape echos!
That
> > echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.' It
is a
> > result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances apart
> > from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats at
> > different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all the
> > old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows and
the
> > Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this
effect.
> > Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were
able to
> > get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as
Meazzi
> > and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies such
as
> > Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and
Dynacord.
> > Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the first
> > three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of internet
time
> > discussing all these various echo units. You can explore some of
> > their discussions here:
> >
> >
> >
> > (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these pages,
> > too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
> >
> > Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause
they
> > pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few
years
> > ago. :)
> >
> > This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern equipment.
I
> > know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to reproduce
> > this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> > Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> > programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo
times.
> > But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get the
warm
> > treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so much to
the
> > tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key for
any
> > self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as
expected -
> > responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past that
> > programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos as
the
> > old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their website
> > here:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was
worth
> > every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I
recall
> > correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units, and
built
> > in all the nuances of those machines, without their
unreliability!
> > You see, the problem with those units is that they are very rare,
and
> > very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players over
20
> > years old are still working? And most of these echo machines are
> > over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of
time,
> > and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are looking
to
> > the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been done.
It's
> > not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more
convenient.
> >
> > Anyway, I hope that helps.
> > Ivan
> >
> > --- In , "kahunatikiman"
<chris@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the
Beloved
> > > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them
they
> > get
> > > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me
away
> > > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have
ever
> > > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which
> > gives
> > > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have
tried
> > > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't
the
> > > same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good
> > (cheap)
> > > alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred
bucks
> > on
> > > a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read
> > reviews
> > > and it didn't sound too good.
>
>
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Do you need a mixer to use the D-2? My amp is a very basic design with
no effects loop. Pedal chain routes nicely, but no balanced
connectors. The D-2 looks pretty cool.
John
--- In , "Rick Escobar" <maxxreverb@y...>
wrote:
> I have a TC Electronics D-Two that I now use for delay these days. A
> cool feature is that I can control the exact number of repeats, for
> me it's very musical.
>
> Another good delay is built into my Fender Cyber Twin, sounds fine to
> me.
>
> My Lexicon PCM81 has some good delays but it's a huge pain to program
> so I use it for everything but delay.
>
> Rick
>
>
> >
> > Green tube Echoplex's are almost perfect, but the "Alantis" has me
> interested. Cick on the
> rack-mount "Alantis" picture, then "English", if that's your
> preferance.
> > -dave
> >
> >
> > ohsyrus <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> > Ivan,
> > I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
> > echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with
> antique
> > units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And Fulltone is
> > comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard
> rumours
> > that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but I
> will
> > believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as well as
> > the Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only has
> > two heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their opinions
> > about various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec sheet
> for
> > the Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital unit--I
> > just never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even pretty
> > critical of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units, that is,
> > until you get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good aspects
> > to the Zoom model appears to be the patch editor software that is
> > included, plus, they are less than $200 on line. There is a new
> delay
> > pedal from Yamaha, the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave reviews
> > from some players. I read that EFTP had evaluated it against the
> Zoom,
> > and gone with the Zoom, but then I also read that they would be
> coming
> > out with patches for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands which
> can
> > be programmed and then connected in serial or parallel. It was
> > developed in conjunction with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but I
> > haven't seen anything quite this versatile without going to the TC
> > Electronic 2290 level. Have you heard anything about this unit? You
> > seem to have a pretty good opinion of the Zoom unit. Have you tried
> to
> > program it?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
> wrote:
> > > My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape echos!
> That
> > > echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.' It
> is a
> > > result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances apart
> > > from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats at
> > > different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all the
> > > old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows and
> the
> > > Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this
> effect.
> > > Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were
> able to
> > > get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as
> Meazzi
> > > and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies such
> as
> > > Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and
> Dynacord.
> > > Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the first
> > > three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of internet
> time
> > > discussing all these various echo units. You can explore some of
> > > their discussions here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these pages,
> > > too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
> > >
> > > Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause
> they
> > > pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few
> years
> > > ago. :)
> > >
> > > This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern equipment.
> I
> > > know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to reproduce
> > > this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> > > Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> > > programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo
> times.
> > > But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get the
> warm
> > > treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so much to
> the
> > > tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key for
> any
> > > self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as
> expected -
> > > responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past that
> > > programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos as
> the
> > > old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their website
> > > here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was
> worth
> > > every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I
> recall
> > > correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units, and
> built
> > > in all the nuances of those machines, without their
> unreliability!
> > > You see, the problem with those units is that they are very rare,
> and
> > > very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players over
> 20
> > > years old are still working? And most of these echo machines are
> > > over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of
> time,
> > > and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are looking
> to
> > > the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been done.
> It's
> > > not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more
> convenient.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I hope that helps.
> > > Ivan
> > >
> > > --- In , "kahunatikiman"
> <chris@b...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the
> Beloved
> > > > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see them
> they
> > > get
> > > > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me
> away
> > > > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I have
> ever
> > > > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord, which
> > > gives
> > > > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have
> tried
> > > > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it isn't
> the
> > > > same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a good
> > > (cheap)
> > > > alternative to get this sound without spending a few hundred
> bucks
> > > on
> > > > a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I read
> > > reviews
> > > > and it didn't sound too good.
> >
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Guys
my recommendation is to buy a working Echocord off eBay (you'll
probably be bidding against me). these units are built like tanks and
anyone that can fix a reel-to-reel tape recorder can work on these. I
have had no problems with my unit once it was initially gone through.
It must be a Super 62 or Super 65. they aren't all that expensive.
they do have DIN connectors which require adapters unless you change
the jacks.
they really nail the "Hank" sound having 2 record and 3 playback heads
using the "reverb" setting that provides the "multi-tap" effect. you
can vary the gain of each of the 3 playback heads by tweaking trim
pots inside the unit.
the other really cool thing is the pre-amp. the EQ on full treble
provides a fantastic, usable "transistor radio" EQ and other settings
are very "Hi-Fi". some guys crank the gain as use it for an
overdrive.
I grew up outside Syracuse, NY where the US distributor for Dynacord,
Bonne Music, was located. Many bands in the area (in the 60's) had
multiple Echocords in their lineup. They really rich guys (these
things cost like $450 new) had one to play thru and one to sing thru.
You can see my Echocord in one of the photos on our web site.
Boulder Bob
www.thebelovedinvaders.com
Anyone got the scoop on the Danelectro Reel Echo?
BN
Hi Brain,
It looks good, but I wasn't that impressed with it. A big light green
"stomp box" it has some nice features, but none of them resemble the
"real analog tape delay" (IMHO) I feel the same about their spring
reverb emulator, which doesn't do it for me either.
And most anoying for me it comes with a 9V battery and not like the Holy
Grail for instance with a 110 or 220 adaptor, which these bigger units
really need, since they drain batteries. Adaptor has to be bought
separate, but it should be included, since 9V doesn't cut it while
rehearsing or gigging, but then again most stomp boxes perform only good
with an adaptor.
I think it's nice when you are looking for some echo/repeats which
aren't that complicated, but merely as a surplus to your other effects
used. It can be usefull but not if you are after a more complicated
"Shadows/Sputnicks" sound
But as mentioned before, the real analog tape delays are not practical
to use these days due to their age and the tape breaking.
If you have the chance to try the Danelectro "Real Echo" perhaps give it
a try. It might be a good inexpense alternative to include some "delay
tape related" to your sound...but get it with an adaptor, instead of
using it with a 9V.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Neal [mailto:]
Sent: maandag 8 september 2003 2:23
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: tape echo
Anyone got the scoop on the Danelectro Reel Echo?
BN
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A friend of mine just bought a mint condition Roland Space Echo
(tape, 1970s). Now there's an ECHO.
Mike
The D-2 sounds like crap for guitar without an effects loop. I
checked out the Yamaha UD delay
()
and it looks really cool. I really want one now.
Verbs,
Rick
--- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> Do you need a mixer to use the D-2? My amp is a very basic design
with
> no effects loop. Pedal chain routes nicely, but no balanced
> connectors. The D-2 looks pretty cool.
>
> John
>
>
> --- In , "Rick Escobar"
<maxxreverb@y...>
> wrote:
> > I have a TC Electronics D-Two that I now use for delay these
days. A
> > cool feature is that I can control the exact number of repeats,
for
> > me it's very musical.
> >
> > Another good delay is built into my Fender Cyber Twin, sounds
fine to
> > me.
> >
> > My Lexicon PCM81 has some good delays but it's a huge pain to
program
> > so I use it for everything but delay.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Green tube Echoplex's are almost perfect, but the "Alantis" has
me
> > interested. Cick on the
> > rack-mount "Alantis" picture, then "English", if that's your
> > preferance.
> > > -dave
> > >
> > >
> > > ohsyrus <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> > > Ivan,
> > > I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
> > > echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with
> > antique
> > > units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And
Fulltone is
> > > comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard
> > rumours
> > > that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but
I
> > will
> > > believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as
well as
> > > the Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only
has
> > > two heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their
opinions
> > > about various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec
sheet
> > for
> > > the Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital
unit--I
> > > just never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even
pretty
> > > critical of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units,
that is,
> > > until you get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good
aspects
> > > to the Zoom model appears to be the patch editor software that
is
> > > included, plus, they are less than $200 on line. There is a new
> > delay
> > > pedal from Yamaha, the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave
reviews
> > > from some players. I read that EFTP had evaluated it against
the
> > Zoom,
> > > and gone with the Zoom, but then I also read that they would be
> > coming
> > > out with patches for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands
which
> > can
> > > be programmed and then connected in serial or parallel. It was
> > > developed in conjunction with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but
I
> > > haven't seen anything quite this versatile without going to the
TC
> > > Electronic 2290 level. Have you heard anything about this unit?
You
> > > seem to have a pretty good opinion of the Zoom unit. Have you
tried
> > to
> > > program it?
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "ipongrac"
<ipongrac@g...>
> > wrote:
> > > > My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape
echos!
> > That
> > > > echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.'
It
> > is a
> > > > result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances
apart
> > > > from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats
at
> > > > different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all
the
> > > > old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows
and
> > the
> > > > Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this
> > effect.
> > > > Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were
> > able to
> > > > get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as
> > Meazzi
> > > > and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies
such
> > as
> > > > Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and
> > Dynacord.
> > > > Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the
first
> > > > three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of
internet
> > time
> > > > discussing all these various echo units. You can explore
some of
> > > > their discussions here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these
pages,
> > > > too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
> > > >
> > > > Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause
> > they
> > > > pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few
> > years
> > > > ago. :)
> > > >
> > > > This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern
equipment.
> > I
> > > > know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to
reproduce
> > > > this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> > > > Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> > > > programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo
> > times.
> > > > But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get
the
> > warm
> > > > treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so
much to
> > the
> > > > tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key
for
> > any
> > > > self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as
> > expected -
> > > > responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past
that
> > > > programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos
as
> > the
> > > > old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their
website
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was
> > worth
> > > > every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I
> > recall
> > > > correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units,
and
> > built
> > > > in all the nuances of those machines, without their
> > unreliability!
> > > > You see, the problem with those units is that they are very
rare,
> > and
> > > > very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players
over
> > 20
> > > > years old are still working? And most of these echo machines
are
> > > > over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of
> > time,
> > > > and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are
looking
> > to
> > > > the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been
done.
> > It's
> > > > not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more
> > convenient.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I hope that helps.
> > > > Ivan
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "kahunatikiman"
> > <chris@b...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the
> > Beloved
> > > > > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see
them
> > they
> > > > get
> > > > > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me
> > away
> > > > > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I
have
> > ever
> > > > > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord,
which
> > > > gives
> > > > > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have
> > tried
> > > > > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it
isn't
> > the
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good
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hundred
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read
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Man I used to have one of those, sorry I ever sold it.
Rick
--- In , "urbansurfkings"
<surfkings@h...> wrote:
> A friend of mine just bought a mint condition Roland Space Echo
> (tape, 1970s). Now there's an ECHO.
>
> Mike
Does anyone know if surf guitarists ever made use of tape echo units?
I know East Bay Ray for one made great use of an echoplex, but I'd be
curious to hear of others, especially before I plunk down hundreds of
dollars on one of those babies.
Thanks,
Danny Snyder
Right off the top of my head I can think of Ivan from the Space
Coassacks who used an echoplex on their first album. Dave Wronski from
Slacktone also uses an Echoplex quite frequently.
--- In , "Danny Snyder" <snydr@s...> wrote:
> Does anyone know if surf guitarists ever made use of tape echo units?
> I know East Bay Ray for one made great use of an echoplex, but I'd be
> curious to hear of others, especially before I plunk down hundreds of
> dollars on one of those babies.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Danny Snyder
Well, I don't know about "back in the day", but... there are a few
now. Notably, Dave Wronski uses an echo unit; it seems to give him
even more echoy wetness than with reverb alone. He uses it to nice
effect in "Rell Sunn Aloha".
--- In , "Danny Snyder" <snydr@s...> wrote:
> Does anyone know if surf guitarists ever made use of tape echo units?
> I know East Bay Ray for one made great use of an echoplex, but I'd be
> curious to hear of others, especially before I plunk down hundreds of
> dollars on one of those babies.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Danny Snyder
--- In , "Danny Snyder" <snydr@s...> wrote:
> Does anyone know if surf guitarists ever made use of tape echo units?
> I know East Bay Ray for one made great use of an echoplex, but I'd be
> curious to hear of others, especially before I plunk down hundreds of
> dollars on one of those babies.
>
The Atlantics, The Denvermen, and the Joy Boys used tape echo pretty
heavily.
J.R. from the Outer Wave is using one of the nice Fulltone models and it sounds
great.
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From: Danny Snyder
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] tape echo
Does anyone know if surf guitarists ever made use of tape echo units?
I know East Bay Ray for one made great use of an echoplex, but I'd be
curious to hear of others, especially before I plunk down hundreds of
dollars on one of those babies.
Thanks,
Danny Snyder
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--- In , "Danny Snyder" <snydr@s...>
wrote:
> Does anyone know if surf guitarists ever made use of tape echo
units?
A Roland Space echo was used on a lot of the rhytm tracks on our last
CD, "Surf vs the Flying Saucers". The engineer added it after the
fact. They sure are a lot of fun.
Mike/ Urban Surf Kings
