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How many of you leave you're strat trems floating? I've been
listening to Los Straitjackets "DAMAS Y CABALLEROS" and I love Eddie
Angels strat tone (if he's actually the lead guitar) It's hard to
tell if he has any uppull on his tremelo.
Later,
Bill
Mine is floating. Eddie plays lead probably about 60% of the time
with Danny doing the remaining 40%.
BN
--- In , "epiphonecasino2001"
<epiphonecasino2001@y...> wrote:
> How many of you leave you're strat trems floating? I've been
> listening to Los Straitjackets "DAMAS Y CABALLEROS" and I love
Eddie
> Angels strat tone (if he's actually the lead guitar) It's hard to
> tell if he has any uppull on his tremelo.
>
> Later,
> Bill
I have 3 Strats and they all have floating trem set ups. They each
have a different set of strings on them: D'Addario 11-49, Rotosound
Purples (Nickel-wound) 12-52 and Gibson Sonomatic Nickel-wound 12-
56. The latter two I think have four trem springs and the former has
3. I have no problem with the trem warbling from palm muting, but
then I've been playing Strat guitars with floating trems for 17
years, so I'm well used to them. Just make sure when you palm mute
to only touch your palm on the string where you mute and not on the
rest of the bridge; also, a light touch is required. BTW, as long as
my strings are well stretched out, I can easily go through an hour-
long show and stay completely in tune; I'll go for over a month
without tuning a guitar at home, too, and I use a lot of tremolo when
I play. It helps to get your guitar set up by a good guitar tech!
You can compensate during the 'oblique' bends (where you bend one
string while also playing a stationary note on another string) by
slightly bending up the stationary note, which would otherwise go a
bit flat. It's a pain, but the tradeoffs are that you can get a very
nice whammy vibrato that goes both above and below the pitch - just
like one of my heroes Hank Marvin. And sometimes it sounds just
right to *raise* the pitch of a note (or a chord) with the tremolo,
too.
Hope that helps.
Ivan
PS I think that Eddie has his trem resting on the body, and can't
pull up on it, though I'm not sure.
--- In , "epiphonecasino2001"
<epiphonecasino2001@y...> wrote:
> How many of you leave you're strat trems floating? I've been
> listening to Los Straitjackets "DAMAS Y CABALLEROS" and I love
Eddie
> Angels strat tone (if he's actually the lead guitar) It's hard to
> tell if he has any uppull on his tremelo.
>
> Later,
> Bill
The only way I have ever used a Strat trem is to have it floating. I think It's
is the best sound, and also the best way to keep the guitar in tune. before I
had my Jaguars, I used to have a Strat set up with the trem flat on the body for
the song, "Lift and Separate". That song has a dropped "D". With a
Jag/Jazzmaster you can use different tunings by locking the tail-piece{if it's
adjusted correctly}, and still use the tremolo. Also, it's good for staying in
tune if you break a string.
-dave
epiphonecasino2001 <> wrote:
How many of you leave you're strat trems floating? I've been
listening to Los Straitjackets "DAMAS Y CABALLEROS" and I love Eddie
Angels strat tone (if he's actually the lead guitar) It's hard to
tell if he has any uppull on his tremelo.
Later,
Bill
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Ivan,
Thanks for the reply, what stratocaster models do you have?
Bill
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
wrote:
> I have 3 Strats and they all have floating trem set ups. They each
> have a different set of strings on them: D'Addario 11-49, Rotosound
> Purples (Nickel-wound) 12-52 and Gibson Sonomatic Nickel-wound 12-
> 56. The latter two I think have four trem springs and the former
has
> 3. I have no problem with the trem warbling from palm muting, but
> then I've been playing Strat guitars with floating trems for 17
> years, so I'm well used to them. Just make sure when you palm mute
> to only touch your palm on the string where you mute and not on the
> rest of the bridge; also, a light touch is required. BTW, as long
as
> my strings are well stretched out, I can easily go through an hour-
> long show and stay completely in tune; I'll go for over a month
> without tuning a guitar at home, too, and I use a lot of tremolo
when
> I play. It helps to get your guitar set up by a good guitar tech!
>
> You can compensate during the 'oblique' bends (where you bend one
> string while also playing a stationary note on another string) by
> slightly bending up the stationary note, which would otherwise go a
> bit flat. It's a pain, but the tradeoffs are that you can get a
very
> nice whammy vibrato that goes both above and below the pitch - just
> like one of my heroes Hank Marvin. And sometimes it sounds just
> right to *raise* the pitch of a note (or a chord) with the tremolo,
> too.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Ivan
>
> PS I think that Eddie has his trem resting on the body, and can't
> pull up on it, though I'm not sure.
>
> --- In , "epiphonecasino2001"
> <epiphonecasino2001@y...> wrote:
> > How many of you leave you're strat trems floating? I've been
> > listening to Los Straitjackets "DAMAS Y CABALLEROS" and I love
> Eddie
> > Angels strat tone (if he's actually the lead guitar) It's hard to
> > tell if he has any uppull on his tremelo.
> >
> > Later,
> > Bill
Hello Bill
I have two '62 reissues (both purchased used, so I'm not sure what
years they are; probably one is late '80s and the other mid-'90s):
one is Shoreline gold, and I put a tortoiseshell pickguard on it, as
well as Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro APS pickups (great sound) - I
have 11-49s on that one; the other one is black and is all stock
except for a pearloid pickguard that was on the guitar when I
purchased it - I use the 12-52 Rotosounds on that one.
The third Strat started its journey in '89 (I think) as a fiesta red
Strat Plus. I bought it new in '90, and within a week of buying it
the wood in front of one of the bridge posts split! Fender gave me
replacement fiesta red body, fortunately. I've modified that guitar
quite a bit over the years. In '97 or '98 I replaced the Lace Sensor
pickups with Fender's Texas Specials, and put the Graphtech saddles
on it, since I was poppping strings left and right during the Space
Cossacks days. The saddles did increase the string life, but I
really didn't like their sound or feel. I also changed the original
Wilkison roller nut for one of those roller-ball nuts, or whatever it
was. Finally last year I got sick of that guitar not sounding up to
par, and took it to my guitar tech who was VERY capable (he passed
away in April, sadly). I had him replace the pickups with the stock
Fender '57/'62 reissue ones (Texas Specials were too dark), I
replaced all the nut bullshit with with the nice plain and
ordinary 'bone'(plastic) nut. Finally, the major mod to the guitar
was replacing the American Standard two-post tremolo system with the
MUCH better sounding vintage model. The only major thing
differentiating the guitar from the '62 reissue now is the Sperzel
locking tuners, which do not impact the sound, and which work very
effectively. But the guitar came ALIVE when I did all this!! HUGE
difference! I couldn't even believe it. I can now play the Shadows
with this guitar, and before I couldn't - there was no twang. I have
Gibson's 12-56 nickelwound strings on this guitar, which also helps.
You can read more about these parts issues, especially about the 2-
post vs. vintage tremolo issue, here:
(go here for the relevant discussion:
Chris Kinman has replaced all the two-post tremolo bridges on Hank
Marvin's guitars with vintage tremolo bridges, and Hank loved it
(though he was initially very skeptical). A BIG difference in tone,
as I can also testify, and quite honestly, when set up correctly, I
NEVER go out of tune!
Anyway, long answer to a short question. Sorry.
Ivan
--- In , "epiphonecasino2001"
<epiphonecasino2001@y...> wrote:
>
> Ivan,
>
> Thanks for the reply, what stratocaster models do you have?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> --- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
> wrote:
> > I have 3 Strats and they all have floating trem set ups. They
each
> > have a different set of strings on them: D'Addario 11-49,
Rotosound
> > Purples (Nickel-wound) 12-52 and Gibson Sonomatic Nickel-wound 12-
> > 56. The latter two I think have four trem springs and the former
> has
> > 3. I have no problem with the trem warbling from palm muting,
but
> > then I've been playing Strat guitars with floating trems for 17
> > years, so I'm well used to them. Just make sure when you palm
mute
> > to only touch your palm on the string where you mute and not on
the
> > rest of the bridge; also, a light touch is required. BTW, as
long
> as
> > my strings are well stretched out, I can easily go through an
hour-
> > long show and stay completely in tune; I'll go for over a month
> > without tuning a guitar at home, too, and I use a lot of tremolo
> when
> > I play. It helps to get your guitar set up by a good guitar
tech!
> >
> > You can compensate during the 'oblique' bends (where you bend one
> > string while also playing a stationary note on another string) by
> > slightly bending up the stationary note, which would otherwise go
a
> > bit flat. It's a pain, but the tradeoffs are that you can get a
> very
> > nice whammy vibrato that goes both above and below the pitch -
just
> > like one of my heroes Hank Marvin. And sometimes it sounds just
> > right to *raise* the pitch of a note (or a chord) with the
tremolo,
> > too.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> > Ivan
> >
> > PS I think that Eddie has his trem resting on the body, and can't
> > pull up on it, though I'm not sure.
> >
> > --- In , "epiphonecasino2001"
> > <epiphonecasino2001@y...> wrote:
> > > How many of you leave you're strat trems floating? I've been
> > > listening to Los Straitjackets "DAMAS Y CABALLEROS" and I love
> > Eddie
> > > Angels strat tone (if he's actually the lead guitar) It's hard
to
> > > tell if he has any uppull on his tremelo.
> > >
> > > Later,
> > > Bill
Ivan,
Thanks for the response, I'm a gear and love all that information!
I've only got an American Standard Strat which I don't want to mod
out, so maybe I'll get one of those '62 reissues. I saw the photos
of your band in Chicago(where I live) and I missed out on all the
surf shows this year, hopefully they will do it again next year. I
have a surf band in very infant stages and would like to get it
together by then.
Thanks,
Bill
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
wrote:
> Hello Bill
>
> I have two '62 reissues (both purchased used, so I'm not sure what
> years they are; probably one is late '80s and the other mid-'90s):
> one is Shoreline gold, and I put a tortoiseshell pickguard on it,
as
> well as Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro APS pickups (great sound) - I
> have 11-49s on that one; the other one is black and is all stock
> except for a pearloid pickguard that was on the guitar when I
> purchased it - I use the 12-52 Rotosounds on that one.
>
> The third Strat started its journey in '89 (I think) as a fiesta
red
> Strat Plus. I bought it new in '90, and within a week of buying it
> the wood in front of one of the bridge posts split! Fender gave me
> replacement fiesta red body, fortunately. I've modified that
guitar
> quite a bit over the years. In '97 or '98 I replaced the Lace
Sensor
> pickups with Fender's Texas Specials, and put the Graphtech saddles
> on it, since I was poppping strings left and right during the Space
> Cossacks days. The saddles did increase the string life, but I
> really didn't like their sound or feel. I also changed the
original
> Wilkison roller nut for one of those roller-ball nuts, or whatever
it
> was. Finally last year I got sick of that guitar not sounding up
to
> par, and took it to my guitar tech who was VERY capable (he passed
> away in April, sadly). I had him replace the pickups with the
stock
> Fender '57/'62 reissue ones (Texas Specials were too dark), I
> replaced all the nut bullshit with with the nice plain and
> ordinary 'bone'(plastic) nut. Finally, the major mod to the guitar
> was replacing the American Standard two-post tremolo system with
the
> MUCH better sounding vintage model. The only major thing
> differentiating the guitar from the '62 reissue now is the Sperzel
> locking tuners, which do not impact the sound, and which work very
> effectively. But the guitar came ALIVE when I did all this!! HUGE
> difference! I couldn't even believe it. I can now play the
Shadows
> with this guitar, and before I couldn't - there was no twang. I
have
> Gibson's 12-56 nickelwound strings on this guitar, which also
helps.
>
> You can read more about these parts issues, especially about the 2-
> post vs. vintage tremolo issue, here:
>
>
>
> (go here for the relevant discussion:
>
>
>
> Chris Kinman has replaced all the two-post tremolo bridges on Hank
> Marvin's guitars with vintage tremolo bridges, and Hank loved it
> (though he was initially very skeptical). A BIG difference in
tone,
> as I can also testify, and quite honestly, when set up correctly, I
> NEVER go out of tune!
>
> Anyway, long answer to a short question. Sorry.
> Ivan
>
> --- In , "epiphonecasino2001"
> <epiphonecasino2001@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Ivan,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply, what stratocaster models do you have?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have 3 Strats and they all have floating trem set ups. They
> each
> > > have a different set of strings on them: D'Addario 11-49,
> Rotosound
> > > Purples (Nickel-wound) 12-52 and Gibson Sonomatic Nickel-wound
12-
> > > 56. The latter two I think have four trem springs and the
former
> > has
> > > 3. I have no problem with the trem warbling from palm muting,
> but
> > > then I've been playing Strat guitars with floating trems for 17
> > > years, so I'm well used to them. Just make sure when you palm
> mute
> > > to only touch your palm on the string where you mute and not on
> the
> > > rest of the bridge; also, a light touch is required. BTW, as
> long
> > as
> > > my strings are well stretched out, I can easily go through an
> hour-
> > > long show and stay completely in tune; I'll go for over a month
> > > without tuning a guitar at home, too, and I use a lot of
tremolo
> > when
> > > I play. It helps to get your guitar set up by a good guitar
> tech!
> > >
> > > You can compensate during the 'oblique' bends (where you bend
one
> > > string while also playing a stationary note on another string)
by
> > > slightly bending up the stationary note, which would otherwise
go
> a
> > > bit flat. It's a pain, but the tradeoffs are that you can get
a
> > very
> > > nice whammy vibrato that goes both above and below the pitch -
> just
> > > like one of my heroes Hank Marvin. And sometimes it sounds
just
> > > right to *raise* the pitch of a note (or a chord) with the
> tremolo,
> > > too.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > > Ivan
> > >
> > > PS I think that Eddie has his trem resting on the body, and
can't
> > > pull up on it, though I'm not sure.
> > >
> > > --- In , "epiphonecasino2001"
> > > <epiphonecasino2001@y...> wrote:
> > > > How many of you leave you're strat trems floating? I've been
> > > > listening to Los Straitjackets "DAMAS Y CABALLEROS" and I
love
> > > Eddie
> > > > Angels strat tone (if he's actually the lead guitar) It's
hard
> to
> > > > tell if he has any uppull on his tremelo.
> > > >
> > > > Later,
> > > > Bill
