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I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
combo.
Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the whole,
sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal room,
and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
place.
I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a little
more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a fair
bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
What do you recommend?
My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough, or
too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case, I'd
miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
unit).
I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
far as headroom is concerned.
I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if it'd
be loud enough either.
At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
louder, than my Twin.
The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend to
affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2) will
play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little bit
of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do something
like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
aren't so great.
Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
Have you tried linking up the normal and vibrato channel?
Just plug your guitar in the N°1 entry of the vibrato channel and connect the
N°2 og the vibrato channel with the N°1 entry of the normal channel using a
small path cable. Then turn up the volume of both channels it could give you the
sound you areb looking for.
Roland
------------------------ wrote:
------------------------
>I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
>combo.
>
>Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the whole,
>sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
>Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal room,
>and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
>place.
>
>I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
>whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a little
>more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
>hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a fair
>bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
>
>What do you recommend?
>
>My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough, or
>too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case, I'd
>miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
>becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
>unit).
>
>I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
>far as headroom is concerned.
>
>I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if it'd
>be loud enough either.
>
>At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
>louder, than my Twin.
>
>The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend to
>affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
>generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
>type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
>
>What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
>it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2) will
>play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little bit
>of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
>
>I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do something
>like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
>aren't so great.
>
>Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
>
>Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
>
>Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
>
>
>
>
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also, this link:
has the suggestion below, since you're going outboard anyway. I haven't
tried it so i don't know if it's any good. A technicians should know plenty
of other tricks to have the amp break up sooner, such as removing the
negative feedback loop. also, you can try different speakers. Some break up
earlier then others.
wannes
Instant Overdrive: If you have a Fender with reverb that you don't use, you
can rig it up into a simple overdrive that works great. Unplug the reverb
tank's RCA plugs from the jacks on the back of your amp. Get a spare RCA
cord and cut off the plugs, leaving about an inch of cable on each one. Take
a 470K ohm, 1/2 watt resistor and soldier each end to the hot leads of the
plugs after you strip off the casing. Connect the grounds of the plugs
together, being careful not to short them out on the hot leads. (I used to
put the whole mess on the sticky side of a four-inch piece of duct tape and
fold it in half to protect against a short. It's not pretty, but it works
great.) Plug the two plugs into the reverb jacks on your amp. Now your
reverb level controls the boost level, and your reverb foot pedal turns it
on and off! I used this mod on the first two Karate records and got some
pretty unique sounds.
>From: "" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Amp Suggestions
>Date: Wed 20 Aug 2003 09:05:48 +0200
>
>Have you tried linking up the normal and vibrato channel?
>Just plug your guitar in the N°1 entry of the vibrato channel and connect
>the N°2 og the vibrato channel with the N°1 entry of the normal channel
>using a small path cable. Then turn up the volume of both channels it could
>give you the sound you areb looking for.
>
> Roland
>------------------------
> wrote:
>------------------------
>
> >I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
> >combo.
> >
> >Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the whole,
> >sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
> >Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal room,
> >and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
> >place.
> >
> >I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
> >whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a little
> >more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
> >hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a fair
> >bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
> >
> >What do you recommend?
> >
> >My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough, or
> >too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case, I'd
> >miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
> >becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
> >unit).
> >
> >I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
> >far as headroom is concerned.
> >
> >I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if it'd
> >be loud enough either.
> >
> >At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
> >louder, than my Twin.
> >
> >The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend to
> >affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
> >generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
> >type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
> >
> >What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
> >it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2) will
> >play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little bit
> >of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
> >
> >I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do something
> >like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
> >aren't so great.
> >
> >Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
> >
> >Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
> >
> >Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
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> >
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Seems to be an interresting mod. But I'm not sure if on long term it will be
very healthy for the reverb tube and transformer.
removing the negatige feedback loop is great for blues but not very surflike
(IMHO) Also a reissue is not very mod friendly
Roland
------------------------ wrote:
------------------------
>also, this link:
>
>
>
>has the suggestion below, since you're going outboard anyway. I haven't
>tried it so i don't know if it's any good. A technicians should know plen
>ty
>of other tricks to have the amp break up sooner, such as removing the
>negative feedback loop. also, you can try different speakers. Some break
>up
>earlier then others.
>
>wannes
>
>Instant Overdrive: If you have a Fender with reverb that you don't use, y
>ou
>can rig it up into a simple overdrive that works great. Unplug the reverb
>
>tank's RCA plugs from the jacks on the back of your amp. Get a spare RCA
>cord and cut off the plugs, leaving about an inch of cable on each one. T
>ake
>a 470K ohm, 1/2 watt resistor and soldier each end to the hot leads of th
>e
>plugs after you strip off the casing. Connect the grounds of the plugs
>together, being careful not to short them out on the hot leads. (I used t
>o
>put the whole mess on the sticky side of a four-inch piece of duct tape a
>nd
>fold it in half to protect against a short. It's not pretty, but it works
>
>great.) Plug the two plugs into the reverb jacks on your amp. Now your
>reverb level controls the boost level, and your reverb foot pedal turns i
>t
>on and off! I used this mod on the first two Karate records and got some
>pretty unique sounds.
>
>
>
>>From: ""
>>Reply-To:
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Amp Suggestions
>>Date: Wed 20 Aug 2003 09:05:48 +0200
>>
>>Have you tried linking up the normal and vibrato channel?
>>Just plug your guitar in the N°1 entry of the vibrato channel and conn
>ect
>>the N°2 og the vibrato channel with the N°1 entry of the normal chan
>nel
>>using a small path cable. Then turn up the volume of both channels it co
>uld
>>give you the sound you areb looking for.
>>
>> Roland
>>------------------------
>> wrote:
>>------------------------
>>
>> >I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
>> >combo.
>> >
>> >Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the whole,
>> >sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
>> >Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal room,
>> >and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
>> >place.
>> >
>> >I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
>> >whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a little
>> >more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
>> >hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a fair
>> >bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
>> >
>> >What do you recommend?
>> >
>> >My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough, or
>> >too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case, I'd
>> >miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
>> >becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
>> >unit).
>> >
>> >I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
>> >far as headroom is concerned.
>> >
>> >I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if it'd
>> >be loud enough either.
>> >
>> >At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
>> >louder, than my Twin.
>> >
>> >The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend to
>> >affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
>> >generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
>> >type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
>> >
>> >What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
>> >it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2) will
>> >play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little bit
>> >of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
>> >
>> >I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do something
>> >like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
>> >aren't so great.
>> >
>> >Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
>> >
>> >Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
>> >
>> >Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> >.
>> >Visit for archived message
>s,
>>bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>ms/
>> >
>>
>>
>
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Try adding a Deluxe,or a Pro Junior, or a Vibrolux, using an A/B switch. Kick on
the small amp to give some attitude to the Twin. Then, you can also use the
small amp by itself for a quieter pushed-amp sound that can be good for parts
within a song, or for use for an entire song.
-dave
rio452001 <> wrote:
I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
combo.
Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the whole,
sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal room,
and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
place.
I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a little
more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a fair
bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
What do you recommend?
My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough, or
too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case, I'd
miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
unit).
I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
far as headroom is concerned.
I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if it'd
be loud enough either.
At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
louder, than my Twin.
The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend to
affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2) will
play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little bit
of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do something
like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
aren't so great.
Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
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Dave,
Thanks for the suggestion... I don't have the extra amp yet, but I've
got the AB box! That must mean I'm half-way there!
Exquisite work on "Fist full of dollars", by the way... what a wild
and multi-national collection of performers on that disk!
Regards,
rio
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> Try adding a Deluxe,or a Pro Junior, or a Vibrolux, using an A/B
switch. Kick on the small amp to give some attitude to the Twin.
Then, you can also use the small amp by itself for a quieter pushed-
amp sound that can be good for parts within a song, or for use for an
entire song.
>
> -dave
>
> rio452001 <mpietra102@a...> wrote:
> I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
> combo.
>
> Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the
whole,
> sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
> Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal
room,
> and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
> place.
>
> I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
> whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a
little
> more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
> hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a
fair
> bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
>
> What do you recommend?
>
> My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough,
or
> too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case,
I'd
> miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
> becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
> unit).
>
> I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
> far as headroom is concerned.
>
> I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if
it'd
> be loud enough either.
>
> At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
> louder, than my Twin.
>
> The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend
to
> affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
> generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
> type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
>
> What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
> it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2)
will
> play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little
bit
> of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
>
> I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do
something
> like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
> aren't so great.
>
> Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
>
> Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
>
> Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
>
>
>
>
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The last gig The Woodies ever did was at an outdoor event. My Showman
was down for the count so I used a 100W HiWatt head with a Fender
reverb tank and a 2x15 bottom. I must say that was the best I have
ever sounded, nothing has even come close to that. Problem was that
the HiWatt had to be cranked before the amp would sing, too much
horse power for club gigs so I sold it.
Rick
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> Try adding a Deluxe,or a Pro Junior, or a Vibrolux, using an A/B
switch. Kick on the small amp to give some attitude to the Twin.
Then, you can also use the small amp by itself for a quieter pushed-
amp sound that can be good for parts within a song, or for use for an
entire song.
>
> -dave
>
> rio452001 <mpietra102@a...> wrote:
> I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
> combo.
>
> Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the
whole,
> sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
> Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal
room,
> and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
> place.
>
> I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
> whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a
little
> more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
> hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a
fair
> bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
>
> What do you recommend?
>
> My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough,
or
> too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case,
I'd
> miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
> becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
> unit).
>
> I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
> far as headroom is concerned.
>
> I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if
it'd
> be loud enough either.
>
> At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
> louder, than my Twin.
>
> The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend
to
> affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
> generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
> type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
>
> What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
> it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2)
will
> play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little
bit
> of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
>
> I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do
something
> like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
> aren't so great.
>
> Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
>
> Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
>
> Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
>
>
>
>
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To make a four power tube amp quieter, remove either two inside or outside power
tubes. Then, if the amp has selectable impedance{like a Hiwatt} change the
setting. example: a 16 ohm speaker cabinate would require a setting of 8 ohms on
the amp. In the case of the 2/15 cab you could wire the two 8 ohm speakers in
series{16 ohms}, then set the Hiwatt to 8 ohms.
-dave
Rick Escobar <> wrote:
The last gig The Woodies ever did was at an outdoor event. My Showman
was down for the count so I used a 100W HiWatt head with a Fender
reverb tank and a 2x15 bottom. I must say that was the best I have
ever sounded, nothing has even come close to that. Problem was that
the HiWatt had to be cranked before the amp would sing, too much
horse power for club gigs so I sold it.
Rick
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> Try adding a Deluxe,or a Pro Junior, or a Vibrolux, using an A/B
switch. Kick on the small amp to give some attitude to the Twin.
Then, you can also use the small amp by itself for a quieter pushed-
amp sound that can be good for parts within a song, or for use for an
entire song.
>
> -dave
>
> rio452001 <mpietra102@a...> wrote:
> I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf type
> combo.
>
> Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the
whole,
> sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
> Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal
room,
> and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of the
> place.
>
> I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm wondering
> whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a
little
> more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
> hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a
fair
> bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
>
> What do you recommend?
>
> My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough,
or
> too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case,
I'd
> miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a problem,
> becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender reverb
> unit).
>
> I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem as
> far as headroom is concerned.
>
> I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if
it'd
> be loud enough either.
>
> At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
> louder, than my Twin.
>
> The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they tend
to
> affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and they're
> generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount and
> type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
>
> What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that (1)
> it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2)
will
> play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little
bit
> of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
>
> I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do
something
> like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and generally
> aren't so great.
>
> Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
>
> Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
>
> Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
>
>
>
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--- dave wronski <> wrote:
> To make a four power tube amp quieter, remove either
> two inside or outside power tubes. Then, if the amp
> has selectable impedance{like a Hiwatt} change the
> setting. example: a 16 ohm speaker cabinate would
> require a setting of 8 ohms on the amp. In the case
> of the 2/15 cab you could wire the two 8 ohm
> speakers in series{16 ohms}, then set the Hiwatt to
> 8 ohms.
> -dave
At ampblueprinting I read that removing output tube
pairs will not really result in desireable break-up,
but will have the transformer at less load (or is it
charge?).
KK
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The "less load" aspect is why you need to change the impedance selector, or
re-wire the speakers to the correct load. You will have a little less power
after removal, so you can turn the amp volume up higher and get more power amp
style distortion. That's the good kind compared to master volume/pre-amp gain
distortion.
-dave
Kahuna Kawentzmann <> wrote:
--- dave wronski <> wrote:
> To make a four power tube amp quieter, remove either
> two inside or outside power tubes. Then, if the amp
> has selectable impedance{like a Hiwatt} change the
> setting. example: a 16 ohm speaker cabinate would
> require a setting of 8 ohms on the amp. In the case
> of the 2/15 cab you could wire the two 8 ohm
> speakers in series{16 ohms}, then set the Hiwatt to
> 8 ohms.
> -dave
At ampblueprinting I read that removing output tube
pairs will not really result in desireable break-up,
but will have the transformer at less load (or is it
charge?).
KK
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A warning to Vox people, do not remove two power tubes from your ac30 because
the are self biasing. They are set up to privide bias for four tubes, so if only
two are used they will run very hot a will fail.
-dave
Kahuna Kawentzmann <> wrote:
--- dave wronski <> wrote:
> To make a four power tube amp quieter, remove either
> two inside or outside power tubes. Then, if the amp
> has selectable impedance{like a Hiwatt} change the
> setting. example: a 16 ohm speaker cabinate would
> require a setting of 8 ohms on the amp. In the case
> of the 2/15 cab you could wire the two 8 ohm
> speakers in series{16 ohms}, then set the Hiwatt to
> 8 ohms.
> -dave
At ampblueprinting I read that removing output tube
pairs will not really result in desireable break-up,
but will have the transformer at less load (or is it
charge?).
KK
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Well, I've found what I wanted-- a generally clean playing Fender amp
which will provide just a touch of break-up when pushed...
And the winner is: a 1966 Bandmaster & matching cab, played at a
volume level of about 8.5, with the bass and treble around 5 or 6 (if
I increase the bass & treble, it'll distort a little sooner). At that
setting, the bass tends to stay pretty clean, punchy & tight, but the
higher notes will break-up just a touch.
I was worried it wouldn't be loud enough, but I gave it a quick try
at rehearsal last night and it seems to just make it under the wire.
(I'm waiting for my reverb unit to arrive, so I played my Twin Reverb
most of the night). I usually play the Twin at around 4.5 to 5 to
get more or less the same volume as I seemed to be getting through
the BM at 8.5.
The previous owner installed a matching set of red Fender GT 6L6's,
and I'm not sure what else is in there, but they sound just fine. I'm
not dying to mess with it, but if anyone has any other suggestions
for tubes, I'm all ears.
I've still got my Twin in reserve for occasions when more output may
be required.
Thanks again to everyone for their comments & suggestions.
--- In , "rio452001" <mpietra102@a...>
wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion... I don't have the extra amp yet, but
I've
> got the AB box! That must mean I'm half-way there!
>
> Exquisite work on "Fist full of dollars", by the way... what a wild
> and multi-national collection of performers on that disk!
>
> Regards,
>
> rio
>
> --- In , dave wronski
<stickmandw@y...>
> wrote:
> > Try adding a Deluxe,or a Pro Junior, or a Vibrolux, using an A/B
> switch. Kick on the small amp to give some attitude to the Twin.
> Then, you can also use the small amp by itself for a quieter pushed-
> amp sound that can be good for parts within a song, or for use for
an
> entire song.
> >
> > -dave
> >
> > rio452001 <mpietra102@a...> wrote:
> > I play guitar ('65 jag) in a three-man instrumental rock/surf
type
> > combo.
> >
> > Right now, I play through a Twin Reverb Reissue, which on the
> whole,
> > sounds fantastic-- nice tone, good reverb & tremolo, plenty loud.
> > Generally I play with volume set at around 4 for our rehearsal
> room,
> > and between 4 and 5 for gigs (miked), depending on the size of
the
> > place.
> >
> > I don't mind the clean sound of the Twin Reverb, but I'm
wondering
> > whether just a little bit of natural overdrive might not add a
> little
> > more excitement, so to speak. I don't want saturation, but just a
> > hint of breaking-up at peak moments. At the same time, I need a
> fair
> > bit of loudness, because the bass & drums are pretty loud.
> >
> > What do you recommend?
> >
> > My sense of it is that a Bassman would either not be loud enough,
> or
> > too distorted at the levels I'd need to play at(and in any case,
> I'd
> > miss the tremolo with the Bassman-- lack of reverb isn't a
problem,
> > becuase I've got a good deal lined up on an original Fender
reverb
> > unit).
> >
> > I suspect a Tremolux would probably suffer from the same problem
as
> > far as headroom is concerned.
> >
> > I've got my eyes on a black-face Bandmaster, but I'm not sure if
> it'd
> > be loud enough either.
> >
> > At the other extreme, I gather a Showman would be as loud, if not
> > louder, than my Twin.
> >
> > The obvious suggestion is an overdrive pedal, but I find they
tend
> to
> > affect the tonal characteristics of the amp, add noise, and
they're
> > generally flat or unresponsive (i.e., they add the same amount
and
> > type of effect, regardless of whether I play hard or soft).
> >
> > What I'm looking for, ideally, is an amp that I can set so that
(1)
> > it's loud enough to compete with my heavy-handed bandmates, (2)
> will
> > play relatively clean most of the time, but (3) give me a little
> bit
> > of breaking up when I'm playing my guitar harder & lounder.
> >
> > I've heard the current "Custom" Vibrolux is supposed to do
> something
> > like that, but I've also heard they distort too fast and
generally
> > aren't so great.
> >
> > Maybe an old BF or SF Vibrolux would be the ticket?
> >
> > Any other amp suggestions I should explore?
> >
> > Don't say, buy them all to try 'em!
> >
> >
> >
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