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In addition, anyone knows how to set-up the pick-ups? For some reason, my
high e string seems to have a lot less volume then the rest, the low E
string is bit to loud. I'm actually playing the high part of Miserlou (and
other e/E songs) on the b-string nowadays!
Should I adjust the poles in the pick up? which direction? Raising the
entire pick up will increase the volume, but if I lift them out of the pick
up, there will also be less pole left in the coil?
>From: "Brian Neal" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Intonation - lemme see if I got this straight
>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:34:03 -0500
>
>Hi Richard,
>
>Sounds like you need a good setup. You'll want to get the neck straight,
>and
>sometimes its hard to do by eyeballing it. And bridge saddle height is
>important too. Going from 9s to 11s was probably a bit of a shock. You
>might
>also want to check out the tremolo, you might have to add a spring or two
>(it has a strat like trem, right?).
>
>Like you I got a little frustrated by the local yokel doing the setups, so
>I
>tried to learn something myself.
>
>I have found the books by Dan Erlewine (sp?) very helpful for learning how
>to do a basic setup. He's the guitar tech pro who has contributed to Guitar
>Player mag for many years. He's got at least two really good books out. I
>have his "Guitar Player Repair Guide", which is aimed more at techs than
>average joes. He has a newer book out that seems to be aimed more for
>players wanting to do simple tweaks like you need.
>
>The Mr. Gearhead site also has tips on doing setups.
>
>
>I got some automotive feeler gauges, rulers, etc, and with the above two
>sources of info I managed to do a pretty good setup on both my main
>guitars,
>but it took a few tries. It just takes some time and fooling around. And
>patience. If you get frustrated, just go do something else for a while,
>otherwise you risk getting pissed off and torquing something off!
>
>I think you got the intonation stuff right. If its flat, you want to make
>the string shorter, hence the saddle comes forward.
>
>Good luck,
>BN
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard [mailto:]
> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:39 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Intonation - lemme see if I got this straight
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, the Cyclone II, despite having been restrung (by
> > me) a few days ago and having had the truss rod
> > adjusted forward (clockwise?) it still buzzes all the
> > way up and down the neck almost. When I move up the
> > neck (higher) the buzzing gets worse and things start
> > sounding a little off. I'm assuming that by adjusting
> > the truss rod as much as I did that I screwed up my
> > intonation.
> >
> > I would take it somewhere, but the last time I took a
> > guitar in it took the guy over two weeks, he charged
> > me my first born child, and he still didn't eliminate
> > all the buzzing, so forget that.
> >
> > Quick note: this guitar came to me with 9's (with
> > which it rattled like crazy) and I promptly put ll's
> > on it (which improved it a lot, but not all the way).
> >
> > Anyway, I can only assume that because I'm still
> > buzzing, I need to a)adjust the truss rod some more
> > and b)raise the bridge saddles until the buzzing
> > pretty much stops?
> >
> > I am also assuming that after doing this I will need
> > to set the intonation over again, and my understanding
> > is that to do this you adjust the saddles
> > forward/backward until the harmonic at the 12th fret
> > AND the note played at the 12 fret are equal. I
> > assume shorten the string if it's flat and lengthen it
> > if it's sharp? Or am I backwards?
> >
> > Richard
>
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I guess you have adjustable poles. These are humbuckers? What I have done to
really get a good balance is plug the guitar into a cassette deck with
flouresent meters. They are real fast, or use the old analog meters if that's
what you have. Pick with equal amount of strength so you can lower the pick-up
{bass side} to match the output of the weakest high string. Then, if you need
to, turn the amp volume higher to get the over-all leval to be loud enough.
Another note, lower pick-ups have better tone! Especially when recording, try
lowering the pick-ups and see how much rounder the tone will become.
-dave
rock verb <> wrote:
In addition, anyone knows how to set-up the pick-ups? For some reason, my
high e string seems to have a lot less volume then the rest, the low E
string is bit to loud. I'm actually playing the high part of Miserlou (and
other e/E songs) on the b-string nowadays!
Should I adjust the poles in the pick up? which direction? Raising the
entire pick up will increase the volume, but if I lift them out of the pick
up, there will also be less pole left in the coil?
>From: "Brian Neal" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Intonation - lemme see if I got this straight
>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:34:03 -0500
>
>Hi Richard,
>
>Sounds like you need a good setup. You'll want to get the neck straight,
>and
>sometimes its hard to do by eyeballing it. And bridge saddle height is
>important too. Going from 9s to 11s was probably a bit of a shock. You
>might
>also want to check out the tremolo, you might have to add a spring or two
>(it has a strat like trem, right?).
>
>Like you I got a little frustrated by the local yokel doing the setups, so
>I
>tried to learn something myself.
>
>I have found the books by Dan Erlewine (sp?) very helpful for learning how
>to do a basic setup. He's the guitar tech pro who has contributed to Guitar
>Player mag for many years. He's got at least two really good books out. I
>have his "Guitar Player Repair Guide", which is aimed more at techs than
>average joes. He has a newer book out that seems to be aimed more for
>players wanting to do simple tweaks like you need.
>
>The Mr. Gearhead site also has tips on doing setups.
>
>
>I got some automotive feeler gauges, rulers, etc, and with the above two
>sources of info I managed to do a pretty good setup on both my main
>guitars,
>but it took a few tries. It just takes some time and fooling around. And
>patience. If you get frustrated, just go do something else for a while,
>otherwise you risk getting pissed off and torquing something off!
>
>I think you got the intonation stuff right. If its flat, you want to make
>the string shorter, hence the saddle comes forward.
>
>Good luck,
>BN
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard [mailto:]
> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:39 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Intonation - lemme see if I got this straight
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, the Cyclone II, despite having been restrung (by
> > me) a few days ago and having had the truss rod
> > adjusted forward (clockwise?) it still buzzes all the
> > way up and down the neck almost. When I move up the
> > neck (higher) the buzzing gets worse and things start
> > sounding a little off. I'm assuming that by adjusting
> > the truss rod as much as I did that I screwed up my
> > intonation.
> >
> > I would take it somewhere, but the last time I took a
> > guitar in it took the guy over two weeks, he charged
> > me my first born child, and he still didn't eliminate
> > all the buzzing, so forget that.
> >
> > Quick note: this guitar came to me with 9's (with
> > which it rattled like crazy) and I promptly put ll's
> > on it (which improved it a lot, but not all the way).
> >
> > Anyway, I can only assume that because I'm still
> > buzzing, I need to a)adjust the truss rod some more
> > and b)raise the bridge saddles until the buzzing
> > pretty much stops?
> >
> > I am also assuming that after doing this I will need
> > to set the intonation over again, and my understanding
> > is that to do this you adjust the saddles
> > forward/backward until the harmonic at the 12th fret
> > AND the note played at the 12 fret are equal. I
> > assume shorten the string if it's flat and lengthen it
> > if it's sharp? Or am I backwards?
> >
> > Richard
>
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--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
>
> Another note, lower pick-ups have better tone! Especially when
recording, try lowering the pick-ups and see how much rounder the tone
will become.
>
> -dave
I have noticed this, but never knew where the optimum height of the
pickup should be--obviously the volume diminishes with greater
distance--what is the optimum distance from the strings for best tone
for a Jag, or a JM for that matter?
I just try to make the responce as equal as possible. If you get the low "E"
real loud by raising that side of the pickuo, when you go to play a melody on
the high "E" the sound will be wimpy, or non existent. The factory spec is 6/64"
at the 17th fret while holding down the string on the last fret{for the high E},
and 8/64" for the bass side{while holding down the low E on the last fret}. I
think this is still too high for the bass side, especially for the neck piclkup.
-dave
ohsyrus <> wrote:
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
>
> Another note, lower pick-ups have better tone! Especially when
recording, try lowering the pick-ups and see how much rounder the tone
will become.
>
> -dave
I have noticed this, but never knew where the optimum height of the
pickup should be--obviously the volume diminishes with greater
distance--what is the optimum distance from the strings for best tone
for a Jag, or a JM for that matter?
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