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How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
cramped up high.
I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
challenging playing fast licks down low.
Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with the
24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in the
difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the bridge/trem
systems than the scale differences.
There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot Easton
contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model scale
the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
Thanks,
BN
As far as I know, Mosley took a strat, flipped it over, traced it on
brown paper and made the Ventures model.(accourding to Nokie Edwards)
I had the oppertunitity to play on a 66 Mosrite Ventures model and on
Andy's Mosrite (from the Hypnotic IV, although unplugged)
I really like the mosrite, but the fretboard is way to narrow for me.
But it seams to have the same scale length then a Strat. But it feels
very different.
I personally like both. The Longer scale of the Jazzmaster and the short
scale Jag. The Jag is faster, but as you said gets cramped after you
pass the 14th fret. If I buy another guitar, it will be a Jaguar to
accompany my Jazzmaster. (I really would like a vintage)
But I guess I will have to settle down with a CIJ/Ishibashi example.
Jerry
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From: Brian Neal [mailto:]
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
cramped up high. I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it
is a bit more challenging playing fast licks down low.
Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with
the 24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in
the difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the
bridge/trem systems than the scale differences.
There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot
Easton contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model
scale the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
Thanks,
BN
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The Mosrite scale length is 24.5" just a little bit shorter than the typical
Gibson scale length which is 24.75"
Roland
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>How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
>variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
>
>Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
>cramped up high.
>I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
>challenging playing fast licks down low.
>
>Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with the
>24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
>
>I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in the
>difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the bridge/trem
>systems than the scale differences.
>
>There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot Easton
>contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
>
>And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model scale
>the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
>
>Thanks,
>BN
>
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hi,
and furthermore, how does it effect the string tension? I now play a strat
with .010 strings , and was looking around for a mustang or cyclone.
however, doesn't shorter scale imply less strings tension? I have a guitar
with less string tension (don't even ask.... it's an old Egmond) but the
lower string tension makes it very difficult to double-pick for me.
What's the opinion on double picking on shorter scales? I guess a set off
.012 would help?
wannes
>From: "Brian Neal" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:44:10 -0500
>
>How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
>variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
>
>Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
>cramped up high.
>I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
>challenging playing fast licks down low.
>
>Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with the
>24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
>
>I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in the
>difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the bridge/trem
>systems than the scale differences.
>
>There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot Easton
>contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
>
>And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model scale
>the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
>
>Thanks,
>BN
>
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I find trempicking on my Mosrite (24.5") much easyer than on my JM (25.5")
I use 0.011-0.048 on my Mosrite and 0.010-0.052 flatwounds on my JM so a less
string tension works better for me.
Roland
------------------------ wrote:
------------------------
>hi,
>
>and furthermore, how does it effect the string tension? I now play a strat
>with .010 strings , and was looking around for a mustang or cyclone.
>however, doesn't shorter scale imply less strings tension? I have a guitar
>with less string tension (don't even ask.... it's an old Egmond) but the
>lower string tension makes it very difficult to double-pick for me.
>What's the opinion on double picking on shorter scales? I guess a set off
>..012 would help?
>
>wannes
>
>
>>From: "Brian Neal"
>>Reply-To:
>>To:
>>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:44:10 -0500
>>
>>How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
>>variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
>>
>>Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
>>cramped up high.
>>I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
>>challenging playing fast licks down low.
>>
>>Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with the
>>24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
>>
>>I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in the
>>difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the bridge/trem
>>systems than the scale differences.
>>
>>There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot Easton
>>contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
>>
>>And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model scale
>>the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>BN
>>
>
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thanks
ntersting. heavy picks?
where can you get .010-052 flatwounds in Belgium????
w
>From: "" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>Date: Tue 08 Jul 2003 10:30:53 +0200
>
>I find trempicking on my Mosrite (24.5") much easyer than on my JM (25.5")
>I use 0.011-0.048 on my Mosrite and 0.010-0.052 flatwounds on my JM so a
>less string tension works better for me.
>
>Roland
>------------------------
> wrote:
>------------------------
>
> >hi,
> >
> >and furthermore, how does it effect the string tension? I now play a
>strat
> >with .010 strings , and was looking around for a mustang or cyclone.
> >however, doesn't shorter scale imply less strings tension? I have a
>guitar
> >with less string tension (don't even ask.... it's an old Egmond) but the
> >lower string tension makes it very difficult to double-pick for me.
> >What's the opinion on double picking on shorter scales? I guess a set off
> >..012 would help?
> >
> >wannes
> >
> >
> >>From: "Brian Neal"
> >>Reply-To:
> >>To:
> >>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
> >>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:44:10 -0500
> >>
> >>How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
> >>variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
> >>
> >>Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
> >>cramped up high.
> >>I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
> >>challenging playing fast licks down low.
> >>
> >>Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with
>the
> >>24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
> >>
> >>I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in
>the
> >>difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the
>bridge/trem
> >>systems than the scale differences.
> >>
> >>There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot
>Easton
> >>contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
> >>
> >>And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model
>scale
> >>the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>BN
> >>
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Scale is very important to the charactor of the sound, and feel of the guitar.
The in-between scale{24.75} like the Paul Read Smith, Fender Heavy Metal, I
think sound and feel a little bit strange.
Brian Neal <> wrote:How important is scale length to you? Is it
critical or just another
variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
cramped up high.
I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
challenging playing fast licks down low.
Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with the
24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in the
difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the bridge/trem
systems than the scale differences.
There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot Easton
contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model scale
the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
Thanks,
BN
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Sorry, made a mistake it is 0.010-0.048 flatwound.
Yes I use heavy picks
Roland Bettenville
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From:
Date: dinsdag 08 juli 2003 11:43:50
To:
Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
thanks
ntersting. heavy picks?
where can you get .010-052 flatwounds in Belgium????
w
>From: "" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>Date: Tue 08 Jul 2003 10:30:53 +0200
>
>I find trempicking on my Mosrite (24.5") much easyer than on my JM (25.5")
>I use 0.011-0.048 on my Mosrite and 0.010-0.052 flatwounds on my JM so a
>less string tension works better for me.
>
>Roland
>------------------------
> wrote:
>------------------------
>
> >hi,
> >
> >and furthermore, how does it effect the string tension? I now play a
>strat
> >with .010 strings , and was looking around for a mustang or cyclone.
> >however, doesn't shorter scale imply less strings tension? I have a
>guitar
> >with less string tension (don't even ask.... it's an old Egmond) but the
> >lower string tension makes it very difficult to double-pick for me.
> >What's the opinion on double picking on shorter scales? I guess a set off
> >..012 would help?
> >
> >wannes
> >
> >
> >>From: "Brian Neal"
> >>Reply-To:
> >>To:
> >>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
> >>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:44:10 -0500
> >>
> >>How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
> >>variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
> >>
> >>Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
> >>cramped up high.
> >>I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
> >>challenging playing fast licks down low.
> >>
> >>Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's with
>the
> >>24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
> >>
> >>I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in
>the
> >>difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the
>bridge/trem
> >>systems than the scale differences.
> >>
> >>There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot
>Easton
> >>contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
> >>
> >>And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model
>scale
> >>the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>BN
> >>
> >
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Hi Roland,
all the better. it's just that in holland I can't seem to find flatwounds
thinner then .012. I tried those but I just can't seem to get used to them,
so i switched back to ordinary .010's.
W
>From: "Roland Bettenville" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:18:19 +0200 (West-Europa (zomertijd))
>
>Sorry, made a mistake it is 0.010-0.048 flatwound.
>
>Yes I use heavy picks
>
>Roland Bettenville
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From:
>Date: dinsdag 08 juli 2003 11:43:50
>To:
>Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>
>thanks
>
>ntersting. heavy picks?
>
>where can you get .010-052 flatwounds in Belgium????
>
>w
>
> >From: "" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
> >Date: Tue 08 Jul 2003 10:30:53 +0200
> >
> >I find trempicking on my Mosrite (24.5") much easyer than on my JM
>(25.5")
> >I use 0.011-0.048 on my Mosrite and 0.010-0.052 flatwounds on my JM so a
> >less string tension works better for me.
> >
> >Roland
> >------------------------
> > wrote:
> >------------------------
> >
> > >hi,
> > >
> > >and furthermore, how does it effect the string tension? I now play a
> >strat
> > >with .010 strings , and was looking around for a mustang or cyclone.
> > >however, doesn't shorter scale imply less strings tension? I have a
> >guitar
> > >with less string tension (don't even ask.... it's an old Egmond) but
>the
> > >lower string tension makes it very difficult to double-pick for me.
> > >What's the opinion on double picking on shorter scales? I guess a set
>off
> > >..012 would help?
> > >
> > >wannes
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "Brian Neal"
> > >>Reply-To:
> > >>To:
> > >>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
> > >>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:44:10 -0500
> > >>
> > >>How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
> > >>variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
> > >>
> > >>Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it
>gets
> > >>cramped up high.
> > >>I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
> > >>challenging playing fast licks down low.
> > >>
> > >>Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's
>with
> >the
> > >>24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
> > >>
> > >>I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in
> >the
> > >>difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the
> >bridge/trem
> > >>systems than the scale differences.
> > >>
> > >>There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot
> >Easton
> > >>contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
> > >>
> > >>And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model
> >scale
> > >>the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>BN
> > >>
> > >
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It's D'addario chromes flatwound extra light gauge (green package)
Some shops have them. The shop I usally go at Leuven don't have them but I
can order them and they have it within a week. So if the shop where you are
a regular custumer is willing to order them it can't really be a problem.
Roland Bettenville
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From:
Date: dinsdag 08 juli 2003 13:46:17
To:
Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
Hi Roland,
all the better. it's just that in holland I can't seem to find flatwounds
thinner then .012. I tried those but I just can't seem to get used to them,
so i switched back to ordinary .010's.
W
>From: "Roland Bettenville" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:18:19 +0200 (West-Europa (zomertijd))
>
>Sorry, made a mistake it is 0.010-0.048 flatwound.
>
>Yes I use heavy picks
>
>Roland Bettenville
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From:
>Date: dinsdag 08 juli 2003 11:43:50
>To:
>Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>
>thanks
>
>ntersting. heavy picks?
>
>where can you get .010-052 flatwounds in Belgium????
>
>w
>
> >From: "" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
> >Date: Tue 08 Jul 2003 10:30:53 +0200
> >
> >I find trempicking on my Mosrite (24.5") much easyer than on my JM
>(25.5")
> >I use 0.011-0.048 on my Mosrite and 0.010-0.052 flatwounds on my JM so a
> >less string tension works better for me.
> >
> >Roland
> >------------------------
> > wrote:
> >------------------------
> >
> > >hi,
> > >
> > >and furthermore, how does it effect the string tension? I now play a
> >strat
> > >with .010 strings , and was looking around for a mustang or cyclone.
> > >however, doesn't shorter scale imply less strings tension? I have a
> >guitar
> > >with less string tension (don't even ask.... it's an old Egmond) but
>the
> > >lower string tension makes it very difficult to double-pick for me.
> > >What's the opinion on double picking on shorter scales? I guess a set
>off
> > >..012 would help?
> > >
> > >wannes
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "Brian Neal"
> > >>Reply-To:
> > >>To:
> > >>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
> > >>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:44:10 -0500
> > >>
> > >>How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
> > >>variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
> > >>
> > >>Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it
>gets
> > >>cramped up high.
> > >>I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
> > >>challenging playing fast licks down low.
> > >>
> > >>Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's
>with
> >the
> > >>24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
> > >>
> > >>I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor in
> >the
> > >>difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the
> >bridge/trem
> > >>systems than the scale differences.
> > >>
> > >>There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot
> >Easton
> > >>contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
> > >>
> > >>And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model
> >scale
> > >>the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>BN
> > >>
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I like the neck on my Cyclone II, but I like the neck
on my Vista Jagmaster, which is an MIJ Jaguar reissue
neck, a bit more. (I'm not sure how accurate those
Japanese reissues really were.) It just seems more
comfortable all around for some reason. The Cyclone
II, of course, with it's Jag pickups and 11 gauge
flatwounds sounds much more surfy than my Jagmaster,
so I tend to pick it up a little more often. I
suppose if the time ever came I'd get a Jaguar for the
scale length, though I've loved the couple of
Jazzmasters that I've gotten to play too.
Richard
--- dave wronski <> wrote:
> Scale is very important to the charactor of the
> sound, and feel of the guitar. The in-between
> scale{24.75} like the Paul Read Smith, Fender Heavy
> Metal, I think sound and feel a little bit strange.
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Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
I like the neck on my Cyclone II, but I like the neck
on my Vista Jagmaster, which is an MIJ Jaguar reissue
neck, a bit more. (I'm not sure how accurate those
Japanese reissues really were.) It just seems more
comfortable all around for some reason. The Cyclone
II, of course, with it's Jag pickups and 11 gauge
flatwounds sounds much more surfy than my Jagmaster,
so I tend to pick it up a little more often. I
suppose if the time ever came I'd get a Jaguar for the
scale length, though I've loved the couple of
Jazzmasters that I've gotten to play too.
Richard
--- dave wronski <> wrote:
> Scale is very important to the charactor of the
> sound, and feel of the guitar. The in-between
> scale{24.75} like the Paul Read Smith, Fender Heavy
> Metal, I think sound and feel a little bit strange.
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Scale length is a very big deal to me. I play a JM, Jag, and a Ric
360. When my Carpal Tunnel syndrome and Arthritis were bad last
winter, I had to give up the JM. The Ric(24.75) was so much easier on
my hands that I acquired a Jag. Although I prefer the sound of the JM,
I love the feel of the Jag. It is more difficult to do complex chord
changes high up the neck, and I find that conditions me to seek
alternatives in the lower positions. Since the Jag has become my main
instrument, my hands have improved to the point where I can play my JM
again for a few hours at a time without discomfort. I have found,
though, that spending a lot of time with the Jag and then moving to a
JM or Strat causes me to flub the more difficult chords if I don't pay
more careful attention. I find I do less chord work on the JM, now.
This is probably no big deal when you are young(and vigorous). But for
an older guy with RIS and arthritis, the Jag has kept me from having
to switch to a nylon string Ukelele ;-) I usually string my Jag with
13-53 Thomastik flatwounds. I used to use lower guage strings on my
JM, 12-50, but I have come to favor the 13-53's to the point where I
think I am going to string all my guitars with them. Thomastik has a
bronze flatwound called Plectrum that I have strung on my Ric from
time to time. Makes it sound like an acoustic guitar, which is nice
for rhythm work. The bronze flatwounds still have a steel core so they
work with magnetic pickups, or piezo as well, just fine. I always
liked the tone achieved by the Treble Spankers, who used a JM and a
Ric for rhythm work to good effect, and a rhythm guitar that sounds
sort of more acoustic flavored, like the Gretches and the Ric's, I
tend to favor for this purpose.
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...> wrote:
> How important is scale length to you? Is it critical or just another
> variable in the equation? How do you think it affects the sound?
>
> Personally my 24" Jaguar is very comfortable to me, but I admit it gets
> cramped up high.
> I am also fine with my 25.5" Strat, but I admit that it is a bit more
> challenging playing fast licks down low.
>
> Maybe I should try something in between? Those Fender Cyclone II's
with the
> 24.75" scale (I think) looked interesting.
>
> I'm not so sure about the tonal effects. I think the larger factor
in the
> difference between the Strat and say a Jag is more due to the
bridge/trem
> systems than the scale differences.
>
> There is an interesting discussion on the Fender Forum about Elliot
Easton
> contemplating getting a 25.5" scale Jaguar built.
>
> And I know I've asked this before, but is the Mosrite Ventures model
scale
> the same as a Strat? But it is typically narrower isn't it?
>
> Thanks,
> BN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rock verb [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:21 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Scale Lengths
>
>
> hi,
>
> and furthermore, how does it effect the string tension? I now
> play a strat
> with .010 strings , and was looking around for a mustang or cyclone.
> however, doesn't shorter scale imply less strings tension? I have
> a guitar
> with less string tension (don't even ask.... it's an old Egmond) but the
> lower string tension makes it very difficult to double-pick for me.
> What's the opinion on double picking on shorter scales? I guess a set off
> .012 would help?
>
> wannes
>
I've got .012's on both a Jag and a Strat. They are easier to play on the
Jag. A lot of people say you can go one higher string guage when moving to a
Jag and it feels about the same as on a Strat. E.g. .011's on a Strat feel
like .012's on a Jag. I'd say thats a pretty good rule of thumb.
BN
Hi group:
I thought I'd chime in on the scale length issue:
I am a a different kind of player: primarily I am a
bassist, but I do put in a lot of time as a rhytm guitarist
too.
I started playing bass on a Mosrite, and I began guitar on
a Hohner...both had odd scale lengths and set-ups. The
Mosrite bass had a super skinny long scale fast neck, the
Hohner had a short scale neck that was awful.
Currently, I play a Danelectro Bass VI...it is almost a
long scale bass...but not quite...it has unique string
spacing and has allowed me to experinemt with bass chords,
arpegios and intervals...as well as unique bass scales and
modes.
The Dano Bass VI is tuned like a guitar E A D G B E'...
totally perfect for surf bass in any key...and weird
baritone-like tone-age at the twelfth fret zone.
I really dig the Dano Bass VI, but I am looking forward to
the day when I can afford a Fender Bass VI (MIJ
copy)...maybe after I win the lottery! I am also looking
forward to getting a MusicMan 4 string, or a nice Fender
Tele-Bass or P-Bass...but, I think I will always hang on to
the Dano VI because it has so much character.
As far as the guitar goes, I am currently playing a
Danelectro Hodad with trem. I use Big Fat Stings (.60-.54)
'cause that feels right to my bass playin' hands. I rarely
do lead work, so the Big Fatties work out just fine for
nice clear cutting reverb-rhythm. I like D'Addario Chrome
Flats...but I also like GHS Flats or Rotosound Flats or La
Bella flats when I can find them...I don't care for Fender
Flats...they don't seem to hold up to my abuse as well as
other brands.
When I switch-hit from bass to rhythm, it does feel
awkward...kind of like the guitar is a toy.
so, there you go...
I'd like to see a Danelectro Baritone with a trem...sort of
like the Fender VI...a bass or baritone with a trem would
kick total butt!
cheers,
Dave P
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