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Hi All,
Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his Mermen-tone
out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups going out
to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects and their
arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a magnificent
one. Thanks. JWL
Which day of the week?
At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
>Hi All,
> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his Mermen-tone
>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups going out
>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects and their
>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a magnificent
Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a humorous way. The
details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he sets up!
The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender
amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been awhile (too
long) since I've seen them play...
At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
>Which day of the week?
>
>
>At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
>>Hi All,
>> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his Mermen-tone
>>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups going out
>>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects and their
>>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a magnificent
> a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps (dual
> showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been awhile (too
> long) since I've seen them play...
It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's rig, but
one very important component that I clearly remember is the nineties'
digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean is right
about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also remember
reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think that's
the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and tube
tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I can't
remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there being one of
those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something, can't
remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at least.
It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the neck and
bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those latest
pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord plugged
into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
--- In , Sean Echevarria <sean@l...>
wrote:
> Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a humorous
way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he sets up!
>
> The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-
15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?).
It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
>
>
>
> At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> >Which day of the week?
> >
> >
> >At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> >>Hi All,
> >> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his Mermen-
tone
> >>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups going
out
> >>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects and their
> >>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
magnificent
At 07:45 PM 2003/06/10 +0000, ipongrac wrote:
>It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's rig, but
>one very important component that I clearly remember is the nineties'
>digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does.
Some time last year(?) he stopped using the Echoplexes and switched to an
ElectrixPro Repeater. I think there is a possibility that he was using the
Echoplex again this year.
>Sean is right about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
>discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also remember
>reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think that's
>the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and tube
>tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I can't
>remember now).
I wouldn't doubt that he's got one but I don't recall seeing it live.
>Let's see, I think I also remember there being one of
>those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something, can't
>remember the manufacter again.
Yeah - something like Tube Works real tube overdrive - but I thought he had a
rack mount version...
>I hope that helps a bit at least.
>It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the neck and
>bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those latest
>pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord plugged
>into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
I thought it was bridge and neck into amp, middle into the overdrive for on
demand feedback (though it depends on the guitar in use).
He's got lots of other odds and ends he brings out - moogerfooger, electrixpro
filter factory, tc electronic delay, mixer, sampler, etc.
Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more awesome if any
of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank. The Mermen
were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some tunes
(that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of setup would
be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's with the
Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
wrote:
> > a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps (dual
> > showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been awhile (too
> > long) since I've seen them play...
>
> It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's rig,
but
> one very important component that I clearly remember is the
nineties'
> digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean is
right
> about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
> discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also remember
> reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think
that's
> the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and tube
> tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I can't
> remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there being one
of
> those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something, can't
> remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at least.
> It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the neck and
> bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those
latest
> pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord
plugged
> into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
>
>
> --- In , Sean Echevarria <sean@l...>
> wrote:
> > Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a humorous
> way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he sets
up!
> >
> > The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon
LXP-
> 15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?).
> It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> > >Which day of the week?
> > >
> > >
> > >At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > >>Hi All,
> > >> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his Mermen-
> tone
> > >>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups going
> out
> > >>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects and
their
> > >>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
> magnificent
How about a Wilsey-esque tone, instead? I would be more interested in
hearing that than a Thomas clone, or a Mermen cover band. Jim is an
original. There is something almost sacriligious about trying to cover
his "performance art". He sounds different with different drummers, to
me, and he has effects that are only available on the used market,
like a Lexicon Lp-15 fer instance, or the Chandler Tube Driver. A lot
of the gnarlt sounds he gets from the envelope follower of the
Electrix Filter Factory driving a Moog Ring Modulator. Then he likes
to put the headstock of his guitar on the cymbal while the drummer
interacts with his feedback loop. Man--its hard for HIM to recreate
some of his performances. That's why tapes of their performances are
so cool. It seems to me that what Jim did, was to find his own
inimitable thing. Go and do likewise. To me, anyway, the best stuff is
original.
--- In , "jimmywilseylives"
<jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more awesome if any
> of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
> Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank. The Mermen
> were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some tunes
> (that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of setup would
> be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's with the
> Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
> wrote:
> > > a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps (dual
> > > showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been awhile (too
> > > long) since I've seen them play...
> >
> > It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's rig,
> but
> > one very important component that I clearly remember is the
> nineties'
> > digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean is
> right
> > about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
> > discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also remember
> > reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think
> that's
> > the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and tube
> > tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I can't
> > remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there being one
> of
> > those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something, can't
> > remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at least.
> > It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the neck and
> > bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those
> latest
> > pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord
> plugged
> > into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
> >
> >
> > --- In , Sean Echevarria <sean@l...>
> > wrote:
> > > Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a humorous
> > way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he sets
> up!
> > >
> > > The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon
> LXP-
> > 15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?).
> > It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> > > >Which day of the week?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > > >>Hi All,
> > > >> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his Mermen-
> > tone
> > > >>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups going
> > out
> > > >>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects and
> their
> > > >>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
> > magnificent
Ohsyrus,
What I'm trying to ask is that I wonder if there is anyone out
there who has come across using some readily available and
economical effects which can offer that Mermenesque sound? I don't
disagree with you in that the live performances are unique and
pretty irreproducible. I just hope that there may be a way to get
a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically. Some of the
Mermen's live stuff is D.Dale et al. stuff but with Jim's touch. I
think Jim makes those songs come alive and sound better than the
original 60's tunes. I know that may not make everyone happy but it
is honestly how I feel. My $0.02. Dario
--- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> How about a Wilsey-esque tone, instead? I would be more interested
in
> hearing that than a Thomas clone, or a Mermen cover band. Jim is an
> original. There is something almost sacriligious about trying to
cover
> his "performance art". He sounds different with different
drummers, to
> me, and he has effects that are only available on the used market,
> like a Lexicon Lp-15 fer instance, or the Chandler Tube Driver. A
lot
> of the gnarlt sounds he gets from the envelope follower of the
> Electrix Filter Factory driving a Moog Ring Modulator. Then he
likes
> to put the headstock of his guitar on the cymbal while the drummer
> interacts with his feedback loop. Man--its hard for HIM to recreate
> some of his performances. That's why tapes of their performances
are
> so cool. It seems to me that what Jim did, was to find his own
> inimitable thing. Go and do likewise. To me, anyway, the best
stuff is
> original.
>
>
> --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more awesome
if any
> > of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
> > Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank. The
Mermen
> > were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some
tunes
> > (that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of setup
would
> > be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's with
the
> > Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
> > wrote:
> > > > a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps
(dual
> > > > showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been
awhile (too
> > > > long) since I've seen them play...
> > >
> > > It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's
rig,
> > but
> > > one very important component that I clearly remember is the
> > nineties'
> > > digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean
is
> > right
> > > about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
> > > discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also
remember
> > > reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think
> > that's
> > > the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and
tube
> > > tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I
can't
> > > remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there being
one
> > of
> > > those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something,
can't
> > > remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at
least.
> > > It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the neck
and
> > > bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those
> > latest
> > > pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord
> > plugged
> > > into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Sean Echevarria
<sean@l...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a
humorous
> > > way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he
sets
> > up!
> > > >
> > > > The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's,
Lexicon
> > LXP-
> > > 15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the
house?).
> > > It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> > > > >Which day of the week?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > > > >>Hi All,
> > > > >> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his
Mermen-
> > > tone
> > > > >>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups
going
> > > out
> > > > >>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects
and
> > their
> > > > >>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
> > > magnificent
It's gonna be hard, or pretty much impossible to do
it 'economically'. But you should start with 1) a decent loud clean
Fender amp, a Twin would be fine; 2) digital delay set for long delay
times, above 600 mSec; 3) a decent digital reverb, set
to 'cavernous'; 4) a good overdrive (not distortion) pedal that'll
coax the feedback out of a cranked-but-clean Fender amp, and give
that agression (the 'hair') to the notes without completely coloring
the tone and losing that Fenderish quality; 5) VERY heavy strings on
your Strat, I think he uses Dick-Dale like gauges of 13-60, or
something like that. You can forget bending the strings with your
fingers. And then you just gotta have Jim's fingers and heart and
mind - and you're all set!
Ivan
--- In , "jimmywilseylives"
<jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Ohsyrus,
> What I'm trying to ask is that I wonder if there is anyone out
> there who has come across using some readily available and
> economical effects which can offer that Mermenesque sound? I don't
> disagree with you in that the live performances are unique and
> pretty irreproducible. I just hope that there may be a way to get
> a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically. Some of the
> Mermen's live stuff is D.Dale et al. stuff but with Jim's touch. I
> think Jim makes those songs come alive and sound better than the
> original 60's tunes. I know that may not make everyone happy but it
> is honestly how I feel. My $0.02. Dario
>
>
>
> --- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...>
wrote:
> > How about a Wilsey-esque tone, instead? I would be more
interested
> in
> > hearing that than a Thomas clone, or a Mermen cover band. Jim is
an
> > original. There is something almost sacriligious about trying to
> cover
> > his "performance art". He sounds different with different
> drummers, to
> > me, and he has effects that are only available on the used market,
> > like a Lexicon Lp-15 fer instance, or the Chandler Tube Driver. A
> lot
> > of the gnarlt sounds he gets from the envelope follower of the
> > Electrix Filter Factory driving a Moog Ring Modulator. Then he
> likes
> > to put the headstock of his guitar on the cymbal while the
drummer
> > interacts with his feedback loop. Man--its hard for HIM to
recreate
> > some of his performances. That's why tapes of their performances
> are
> > so cool. It seems to me that what Jim did, was to find his own
> > inimitable thing. Go and do likewise. To me, anyway, the best
> stuff is
> > original.
> >
> >
> > --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> > <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more awesome
> if any
> > > of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
> > > Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank. The
> Mermen
> > > were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some
> tunes
> > > (that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of setup
> would
> > > be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's
with
> the
> > > Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "ipongrac"
<ipongrac@g...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps
> (dual
> > > > > showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been
> awhile (too
> > > > > long) since I've seen them play...
> > > >
> > > > It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's
> rig,
> > > but
> > > > one very important component that I clearly remember is the
> > > nineties'
> > > > digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean
> is
> > > right
> > > > about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
> > > > discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also
> remember
> > > > reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think
> > > that's
> > > > the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and
> tube
> > > > tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I
> can't
> > > > remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there
being
> one
> > > of
> > > > those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something,
> can't
> > > > remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at
> least.
> > > > It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the
neck
> and
> > > > bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those
> > > latest
> > > > pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord
> > > plugged
> > > > into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Sean Echevarria
> <sean@l...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a
> humorous
> > > > way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he
> sets
> > > up!
> > > > >
> > > > > The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's,
> Lexicon
> > > LXP-
> > > > 15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the
> house?).
> > > > It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> > > > > >Which day of the week?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > > > > >>Hi All,
> > > > > >> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his
> Mermen-
> > > > tone
> > > > > >>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups
> going
> > > > out
> > > > > >>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects
> and
> > > their
> > > > > >>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
> > > > magnificent
jimmywilseylives wrote:
> I just hope that there may be a way to get
> a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically.
Look around for a box called a Space Station that came out a few years ago.
Awesome, rich tones that
are blends of reverb, delay and harmonizer.
ferenc
PDM
One crucial tip to Jim's sound is that he have a volume pedal pre-send to his
reverb. this allows
him to adjust how wet he gets in the middle of a phrase, and gives him that
multi-dimensional
space-- Most guys set their reverbs and don't change the settings, whereas he
can do it on the fly.
He also uses volume pedals pre-feed for his distortion and delays...
And despite what Jim said in Guitar Player about not being able to bend those
heavy strings, he does
it al the time.
ferenc
PDM
ipongrac wrote:
> It's gonna be hard, or pretty much impossible to do
> it 'economically'. But you should start with 1) a decent loud clean
> Fender amp, a Twin would be fine; 2) digital delay set for long delay
> times, above 600 mSec; 3) a decent digital reverb, set
> to 'cavernous'; 4) a good overdrive (not distortion) pedal that'll
> coax the feedback out of a cranked-but-clean Fender amp, and give
> that agression (the 'hair') to the notes without completely coloring
> the tone and losing that Fenderish quality; 5) VERY heavy strings on
> your Strat, I think he uses Dick-Dale like gauges of 13-60, or
> something like that. You can forget bending the strings with your
> fingers. And then you just gotta have Jim's fingers and heart and
> mind - and you're all set!
>
> Ivan
>
> --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
>
>>Ohsyrus,
>> What I'm trying to ask is that I wonder if there is anyone out
>>there who has come across using some readily available and
>>economical effects which can offer that Mermenesque sound? I don't
>>disagree with you in that the live performances are unique and
>>pretty irreproducible. I just hope that there may be a way to get
>>a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically. Some of the
>>Mermen's live stuff is D.Dale et al. stuff but with Jim's touch. I
>>think Jim makes those songs come alive and sound better than the
>>original 60's tunes. I know that may not make everyone happy but it
>>is honestly how I feel. My $0.02. Dario
>>
>>
>>
>>--- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...>
>
> wrote:
>
>>>How about a Wilsey-esque tone, instead? I would be more
>>
> interested
>
>>in
>>
>>>hearing that than a Thomas clone, or a Mermen cover band. Jim is
>>
> an
>
>>>original. There is something almost sacriligious about trying to
>>
>>cover
>>
>>>his "performance art". He sounds different with different
>>
>>drummers, to
>>
>>>me, and he has effects that are only available on the used market,
>>>like a Lexicon Lp-15 fer instance, or the Chandler Tube Driver. A
>>
>>lot
>>
>>>of the gnarlt sounds he gets from the envelope follower of the
>>>Electrix Filter Factory driving a Moog Ring Modulator. Then he
>>
>>likes
>>
>>>to put the headstock of his guitar on the cymbal while the
>>
> drummer
>
>>>interacts with his feedback loop. Man--its hard for HIM to
>>
> recreate
>
>>>some of his performances. That's why tapes of their performances
>>
>>are
>>
>>>so cool. It seems to me that what Jim did, was to find his own
>>>inimitable thing. Go and do likewise. To me, anyway, the best
>>
>>stuff is
>>
>>>original.
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In , "jimmywilseylives"
>>><jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more awesome
>>>
>>if any
>>
>>>>of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
>>>>Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank. The
>>>
>>Mermen
>>
>>>>were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some
>>>
>>tunes
>>
>>>>(that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of setup
>>>
>>would
>>
>>>>be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's
>>>
> with
>
>>the
>>
>>>>Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- In , "ipongrac"
>>>
> <ipongrac@g...>
>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps
>>>>>
>>(dual
>>
>>>>>>showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been
>>>>>
>>awhile (too
>>
>>>>>>long) since I've seen them play...
>>>>>
>>>>>It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's
>>>>
>>rig,
>>
>>>>but
>>>>
>>>>>one very important component that I clearly remember is the
>>>>
>>>>nineties'
>>>>
>>>>>digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean
>>>>
>>is
>>
>>>>right
>>>>
>>>>>about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
>>>>>discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also
>>>>
>>remember
>>
>>>>>reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think
>>>>
>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>>the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and
>>>>
>>tube
>>
>>>>>tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I
>>>>
>>can't
>>
>>>>>remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there
>>>>
> being
>
>>one
>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>>those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something,
>>>>
>>can't
>>
>>>>>remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at
>>>>
>>least.
>>
>>>>>It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the
>>>>
> neck
>
>>and
>>
>>>>>bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those
>>>>
>>>>latest
>>>>
>>>>>pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord
>>>>
>>>>plugged
>>>>
>>>>>into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--- In , Sean Echevarria
>>>>
>><sean@l...>
>>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a
>>>>>
>>humorous
>>
>>>>>way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he
>>>>
>>sets
>>
>>>>up!
>>>>
>>>>>>The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's,
>>>>>
>>Lexicon
>>
>>>>LXP-
>>>>
>>>>>15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the
>>>>
>>house?).
>>
>>>>>It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Which day of the week?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his
>>>>>>>
>>Mermen-
>>
>>>>>tone
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups
>>>>>>>
>>going
>>
>>>>>out
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects
>>>>>>>
>>and
>>
>>>>their
>>>>
>>>>>>>>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>magnificent
>>>>
>
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Thanks so much for the info. I'll apply it and listen to what
happens. JWL
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
wrote:
> It's gonna be hard, or pretty much impossible to do
> it 'economically'. But you should start with 1) a decent loud
clean
> Fender amp, a Twin would be fine; 2) digital delay set for long
delay
> times, above 600 mSec; 3) a decent digital reverb, set
> to 'cavernous'; 4) a good overdrive (not distortion) pedal that'll
> coax the feedback out of a cranked-but-clean Fender amp, and give
> that agression (the 'hair') to the notes without completely
coloring
> the tone and losing that Fenderish quality; 5) VERY heavy strings
on
> your Strat, I think he uses Dick-Dale like gauges of 13-60, or
> something like that. You can forget bending the strings with your
> fingers. And then you just gotta have Jim's fingers and heart and
> mind - and you're all set!
>
> Ivan
>
> --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Ohsyrus,
> > What I'm trying to ask is that I wonder if there is anyone
out
> > there who has come across using some readily available and
> > economical effects which can offer that Mermenesque sound? I
don't
> > disagree with you in that the live performances are unique and
> > pretty irreproducible. I just hope that there may be a way to
get
> > a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically. Some of the
> > Mermen's live stuff is D.Dale et al. stuff but with Jim's touch.
I
> > think Jim makes those songs come alive and sound better than the
> > original 60's tunes. I know that may not make everyone happy but
it
> > is honestly how I feel. My $0.02. Dario
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...>
> wrote:
> > > How about a Wilsey-esque tone, instead? I would be more
> interested
> > in
> > > hearing that than a Thomas clone, or a Mermen cover band. Jim
is
> an
> > > original. There is something almost sacriligious about trying
to
> > cover
> > > his "performance art". He sounds different with different
> > drummers, to
> > > me, and he has effects that are only available on the used
market,
> > > like a Lexicon Lp-15 fer instance, or the Chandler Tube
Driver. A
> > lot
> > > of the gnarlt sounds he gets from the envelope follower of the
> > > Electrix Filter Factory driving a Moog Ring Modulator. Then he
> > likes
> > > to put the headstock of his guitar on the cymbal while the
> drummer
> > > interacts with his feedback loop. Man--its hard for HIM to
> recreate
> > > some of his performances. That's why tapes of their
performances
> > are
> > > so cool. It seems to me that what Jim did, was to find his own
> > > inimitable thing. Go and do likewise. To me, anyway, the best
> > stuff is
> > > original.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> > > <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more
awesome
> > if any
> > > > of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
> > > > Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank.
The
> > Mermen
> > > > were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some
> > tunes
> > > > (that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of
setup
> > would
> > > > be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's
> with
> > the
> > > > Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "ipongrac"
> <ipongrac@g...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps
> > (dual
> > > > > > showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been
> > awhile (too
> > > > > > long) since I've seen them play...
> > > > >
> > > > > It's also been a long time since I even thought about
Jim's
> > rig,
> > > > but
> > > > > one very important component that I clearly remember is
the
> > > > nineties'
> > > > > digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does.
Sean
> > is
> > > > right
> > > > > about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
> > > > > discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also
> > remember
> > > > > reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I
think
> > > > that's
> > > > > the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb
and
> > tube
> > > > > tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by
Matchless? I
> > can't
> > > > > remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there
> being
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something,
> > can't
> > > > > remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at
> > least.
> > > > > It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the
> neck
> > and
> > > > > bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in
those
> > > > latest
> > > > > pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one
cord
> > > > plugged
> > > > > into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Sean Echevarria
> > <sean@l...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a
> > humorous
> > > > > way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time
he
> > sets
> > > > up!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's,
> > Lexicon
> > > > LXP-
> > > > > 15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the
> > house?).
> > > > > It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> > > > > > >Which day of the week?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > > > > > >>Hi All,
> > > > > > >> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his
> > Mermen-
> > > > > tone
> > > > > > >>out of his strat? I know he has all the different
pickups
> > going
> > > > > out
> > > > > > >>to different effects. Does anyone know what the
effects
> > and
> > > > their
> > > > > > >>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone-
a
> > > > > magnificent
Thanks, thanks and thanks again. JWL
--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferenc@p...>
wrote:
> One crucial tip to Jim's sound is that he have a volume pedal pre-
send to his reverb. this allows
> him to adjust how wet he gets in the middle of a phrase, and gives
him that multi-dimensional
> space-- Most guys set their reverbs and don't change the settings,
whereas he can do it on the fly.
> He also uses volume pedals pre-feed for his distortion and
delays...
>
> And despite what Jim said in Guitar Player about not being able to
bend those heavy strings, he does
> it al the time.
>
> ferenc
> PDM
>
> ipongrac wrote:
> > It's gonna be hard, or pretty much impossible to do
> > it 'economically'. But you should start with 1) a decent loud
clean
> > Fender amp, a Twin would be fine; 2) digital delay set for long
delay
> > times, above 600 mSec; 3) a decent digital reverb, set
> > to 'cavernous'; 4) a good overdrive (not distortion) pedal
that'll
> > coax the feedback out of a cranked-but-clean Fender amp, and
give
> > that agression (the 'hair') to the notes without completely
coloring
> > the tone and losing that Fenderish quality; 5) VERY heavy
strings on
> > your Strat, I think he uses Dick-Dale like gauges of 13-60, or
> > something like that. You can forget bending the strings with
your
> > fingers. And then you just gotta have Jim's fingers and heart
and
> > mind - and you're all set!
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> > --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> > <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> >
> >>Ohsyrus,
> >> What I'm trying to ask is that I wonder if there is anyone
out
> >>there who has come across using some readily available and
> >>economical effects which can offer that Mermenesque sound? I
don't
> >>disagree with you in that the live performances are unique and
> >>pretty irreproducible. I just hope that there may be a way to
get
> >>a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically. Some of the
> >>Mermen's live stuff is D.Dale et al. stuff but with Jim's touch.
I
> >>think Jim makes those songs come alive and sound better than the
> >>original 60's tunes. I know that may not make everyone happy but
it
> >>is honestly how I feel. My $0.02. Dario
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>How about a Wilsey-esque tone, instead? I would be more
> >>
> > interested
> >
> >>in
> >>
> >>>hearing that than a Thomas clone, or a Mermen cover band. Jim
is
> >>
> > an
> >
> >>>original. There is something almost sacriligious about trying
to
> >>
> >>cover
> >>
> >>>his "performance art". He sounds different with different
> >>
> >>drummers, to
> >>
> >>>me, and he has effects that are only available on the used
market,
> >>>like a Lexicon Lp-15 fer instance, or the Chandler Tube Driver.
A
> >>
> >>lot
> >>
> >>>of the gnarlt sounds he gets from the envelope follower of the
> >>>Electrix Filter Factory driving a Moog Ring Modulator. Then he
> >>
> >>likes
> >>
> >>>to put the headstock of his guitar on the cymbal while the
> >>
> > drummer
> >
> >>>interacts with his feedback loop. Man--its hard for HIM to
> >>
> > recreate
> >
> >>>some of his performances. That's why tapes of their
performances
> >>
> >>are
> >>
> >>>so cool. It seems to me that what Jim did, was to find his own
> >>>inimitable thing. Go and do likewise. To me, anyway, the best
> >>
> >>stuff is
> >>
> >>>original.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> >>><jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more awesome
> >>>
> >>if any
> >>
> >>>>of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
> >>>>Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank. The
> >>>
> >>Mermen
> >>
> >>>>were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some
> >>>
> >>tunes
> >>
> >>>>(that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of setup
> >>>
> >>would
> >>
> >>>>be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's
> >>>
> > with
> >
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- In , "ipongrac"
> >>>
> > <ipongrac@g...>
> >
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps
> >>>>>
> >>(dual
> >>
> >>>>>>showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been
> >>>>>
> >>awhile (too
> >>
> >>>>>>long) since I've seen them play...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's
> >>>>
> >>rig,
> >>
> >>>>but
> >>>>
> >>>>>one very important component that I clearly remember is the
> >>>>
> >>>>nineties'
> >>>>
> >>>>>digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean
> >>>>
> >>is
> >>
> >>>>right
> >>>>
> >>>>>about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
> >>>>>discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also
> >>>>
> >>remember
> >>
> >>>>>reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think
> >>>>
> >>>>that's
> >>>>
> >>>>>the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and
> >>>>
> >>tube
> >>
> >>>>>tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I
> >>>>
> >>can't
> >>
> >>>>>remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there
> >>>>
> > being
> >
> >>one
> >>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>>those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something,
> >>>>
> >>can't
> >>
> >>>>>remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at
> >>>>
> >>least.
> >>
> >>>>>It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the
> >>>>
> > neck
> >
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>>bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those
> >>>>
> >>>>latest
> >>>>
> >>>>>pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord
> >>>>
> >>>>plugged
> >>>>
> >>>>>into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--- In , Sean Echevarria
> >>>>
> >><sean@l...>
> >>
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a
> >>>>>
> >>humorous
> >>
> >>>>>way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he
> >>>>
> >>sets
> >>
> >>>>up!
> >>>>
> >>>>>>The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's,
> >>>>>
> >>Lexicon
> >>
> >>>>LXP-
> >>>>
> >>>>>15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the
> >>>>
> >>house?).
> >>
> >>>>>It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Which day of the week?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Hi All,
> >>>>>>>> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his
> >>>>>>>
> >>Mermen-
> >>
> >>>>>tone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups
> >>>>>>>
> >>going
> >>
> >>>>>out
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects
> >>>>>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>their
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>magnificent
> >>>>
> >
> >
> >
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ferenc,
I saw a pic where he had an octaver (it seemed) on his pedal
board so that makes sense. He also had a phaser and the tremolo pan.
It just seems like so much stuff there and not to mention what else
he is using that isn't in the pic. I hope that tone doesn't have to
be that complicated to get to but if it is then oh well. Thanks for
the useful help. JWL
--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferenc@p...>
wrote:
>
>
> jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > I just hope that there may be a way to get
> > a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically.
>
> Look around for a box called a Space Station that came out a few
years ago. Awesome, rich tones that
> are blends of reverb, delay and harmonizer.
>
> ferenc
> PDM
And don't forget the rack mount graphic equalizer to shape the tone...
and rewire your guitar for two output jacks...and use super heavy
flat-wound strings...the biggest you can lay your hands on.
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
> It's gonna be hard, or pretty much impossible to do
> it 'economically'. But you should start with 1) a decent loud clean
> Fender amp, a Twin would be fine; 2) digital delay set for long delay
> times, above 600 mSec; 3) a decent digital reverb, set
> to 'cavernous'; 4) a good overdrive (not distortion) pedal that'll
> coax the feedback out of a cranked-but-clean Fender amp, and give
> that agression (the 'hair') to the notes without completely coloring
> the tone and losing that Fenderish quality; 5) VERY heavy strings on
> your Strat, I think he uses Dick-Dale like gauges of 13-60, or
> something like that. You can forget bending the strings with your
> fingers. And then you just gotta have Jim's fingers and heart and
> mind - and you're all set!
>
> Ivan
>
> --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Ohsyrus,
> > What I'm trying to ask is that I wonder if there is anyone out
> > there who has come across using some readily available and
> > economical effects which can offer that Mermenesque sound? I don't
> > disagree with you in that the live performances are unique and
> > pretty irreproducible. I just hope that there may be a way to get
> > a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically. Some of the
> > Mermen's live stuff is D.Dale et al. stuff but with Jim's touch. I
> > think Jim makes those songs come alive and sound better than the
> > original 60's tunes. I know that may not make everyone happy but it
> > is honestly how I feel. My $0.02. Dario
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...>
> wrote:
> > > How about a Wilsey-esque tone, instead? I would be more
> interested
> > in
> > > hearing that than a Thomas clone, or a Mermen cover band. Jim is
> an
> > > original. There is something almost sacriligious about trying to
> > cover
> > > his "performance art". He sounds different with different
> > drummers, to
> > > me, and he has effects that are only available on the used market,
> > > like a Lexicon Lp-15 fer instance, or the Chandler Tube Driver. A
> > lot
> > > of the gnarlt sounds he gets from the envelope follower of the
> > > Electrix Filter Factory driving a Moog Ring Modulator. Then he
> > likes
> > > to put the headstock of his guitar on the cymbal while the
> drummer
> > > interacts with his feedback loop. Man--its hard for HIM to
> recreate
> > > some of his performances. That's why tapes of their performances
> > are
> > > so cool. It seems to me that what Jim did, was to find his own
> > > inimitable thing. Go and do likewise. To me, anyway, the best
> > stuff is
> > > original.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> > > <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for your guys' responses. It would be even more awesome
> > if any
> > > > of you know what kind of arrangement of effects could get a
> > > > Thomasesque tone out of a strat without breaking the bank. The
> > Mermen
> > > > were highly responsible for my surf journey and playing some
> > tunes
> > > > (that I have yet to hear them play) through that kind of setup
> > would
> > > > be really interesting. Jim Thomas and Jimmy Wilsey - what's
> with
> > the
> > > > Jim thing? :) Thanks. Dario (aka JWL)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "ipongrac"
> <ipongrac@g...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's, Lexicon LXP-15, Fender amps
> > (dual
> > > > > > showmen usually - is Stanner in the house?). It's been
> > awhile (too
> > > > > > long) since I've seen them play...
> > > > >
> > > > > It's also been a long time since I even thought about Jim's
> > rig,
> > > > but
> > > > > one very important component that I clearly remember is the
> > > > nineties'
> > > > > digital Oberheim Echoplex for all the looping he does. Sean
> > is
> > > > right
> > > > > about two (or three?) Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan pedals (now
> > > > > discontinued), I remember those very clearly. I do also
> > remember
> > > > > reading a couple of years ago that he got a Surf Box (I think
> > > > that's
> > > > > the name of it), which combined tube-drive spring reverb and
> > tube
> > > > > tremolo in a rack-mounted unit (was that made by Matchless? I
> > can't
> > > > > remember now). Let's see, I think I also remember there
> being
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > those tube-overdrive pedals, like Blue Drive or something,
> > can't
> > > > > remember the manufacter again. I hope that helps a bit at
> > least.
> > > > > It's a very complex setup, for sure. He used to feed the
> neck
> > and
> > > > > bridge pickups individually into different amps, but in those
> > > > latest
> > > > > pictures somebody posted, it looked like he just had one cord
> > > > plugged
> > > > > into the guitar. Maybe he's simplified things?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Sean Echevarria
> > <sean@l...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Seeing my response makes me shudder - it was meant in a
> > humorous
> > > > > way. The details of Jim's setup seems to vary every time he
> > sets
> > > > up!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The consistent things are a pair(?) of Boss Tremolo's,
> > Lexicon
> > > > LXP-
> > > > > 15, Fender amps (dual showmen usually - is Stanner in the
> > house?).
> > > > > It's been awhile (too long) since I've seen them play...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 05:59 PM 2003/06/09 -0700, Sean Echevarria wrote:
> > > > > > >Which day of the week?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >At 12:40 AM 2003/06/10 +0000, jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > > > > > >>Hi All,
> > > > > > >> Does anyone know exactly what Jim uses to get his
> > Mermen-
> > > > > tone
> > > > > > >>out of his strat? I know he has all the different pickups
> > going
> > > > > out
> > > > > > >>to different effects. Does anyone know what the effects
> > and
> > > > their
> > > > > > >>arrangement are? I would really like to cop that tone- a
> > > > > magnificent
I really think that the essence of Jim's tone is in his playing style not his
gear. He is very
aggressive with his picking, and he really knows his chord inversions. If you
see him play with his
side band The Shitones, where he plays with a stripped down set up, you see that
the magic comes
from his fingers, not all the toys. I also understand that he practices at least
4 hours a day- that
will do wonders for your playing.
One other Jim trick, and this has come up in some of the other threads-- put
your tremelo after your
reverb, and set it to a square wave. Gets that strobe effect...
ferenc
Pollo del Mar
jimmywilseylives wrote:
> ferenc,
> I saw a pic where he had an octaver (it seemed) on his pedal
> board so that makes sense. He also had a phaser and the tremolo pan.
> It just seems like so much stuff there and not to mention what else
> he is using that isn't in the pic. I hope that tone doesn't have to
> be that complicated to get to but if it is then oh well. Thanks for
> the useful help. JWL
>
>
>
>
> --- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferenc@p...> wrote:
>
>>
>>jimmywilseylives wrote:
>>
>>> I just hope that there may be a way to get
>>>a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically.
>>
>>Look around for a box called a Space Station that came out a few
>
> years ago. Awesome, rich tones that
>
>>are blends of reverb, delay and harmonizer.
>>
>>ferenc
>>PDM
>
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Ferenc,
True, I do belive that too but there must be something said for
the sound. I'm sure SRV or Hendrix playing through other effects
than the ones they used would sound good but you'll notice the
flavor is different. That's what I'm after not necessarily the exact
playing style. The pickups may also be something to consider.
Thanks. JWL
--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferenc@p...>
wrote:
> I really think that the essence of Jim's tone is in his playing
style not his gear. He is very
> aggressive with his picking, and he really knows his chord
inversions. If you see him play with his
> side band The Shitones, where he plays with a stripped down set
up, you see that the magic comes
> from his fingers, not all the toys. I also understand that he
practices at least 4 hours a day- that
> will do wonders for your playing.
>
> One other Jim trick, and this has come up in some of the other
threads-- put your tremelo after your
> reverb, and set it to a square wave. Gets that strobe effect...
>
> ferenc
> Pollo del Mar
>
>
>
>
>
> jimmywilseylives wrote:
> > ferenc,
> > I saw a pic where he had an octaver (it seemed) on his pedal
> > board so that makes sense. He also had a phaser and the tremolo
pan.
> > It just seems like so much stuff there and not to mention what
else
> > he is using that isn't in the pic. I hope that tone doesn't have
to
> > be that complicated to get to but if it is then oh well. Thanks
for
> > the useful help. JWL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , Ferenc Dobronyi
<ferenc@p...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>jimmywilseylives wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just hope that there may be a way to get
> >>>a "basic Mermen-type tone" and do it economically.
> >>
> >>Look around for a box called a Space Station that came out a few
> >
> > years ago. Awesome, rich tones that
> >
> >>are blends of reverb, delay and harmonizer.
> >>
> >>ferenc
> >>PDM
> >
> >
> >
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