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Hey everyone,
Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some degree the
gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to replace the spring tray
in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with a NOS '65 tray,
identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than a new reissue on
its first use. The springs had that sound like they do when you fire up your
tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the reverb, just a
rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure none of the foam
was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't. So I'm just figuring
the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused, need to be broken in.
So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been sounding like ass and its
really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the tank gave me back
the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I thought "Hmmm,
maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply unhook the old springs
and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed them, and set them
side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the other. I rinstalled
them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher tension than the bottom
one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried both of them as the
"long" spring, matching the existing one with another long one, or vice
versa with the short one?
At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs in the tank and see
what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs from the original
spring tray.
-Dano
-=The Nebulas=-
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Dano,
Neat trick on swapping springs. I haven't tried that. One thing you might
consider is making sure the transducers on the spring end plates are secure.
The transducers are the little sets of metal rectangles that wrap around the
plates. If they are loose, you are losing reverb signal. The easiest way
to tighten the fit is to wedge some pieces of wooden toothpick under them.
I've done this to a few pans to bring them back to life. Another place pans
lose signal is in the RCA jacks, and the wires connecting them to the reverb
end plates. Check to make sure you don't have frayed wires there.
Good luck, and let us know how the spring experiments go.
Mel
-----Original Message-----
From: -=Dan Ware=- [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:45 PM
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
Hey everyone,
Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some degree the
gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to replace the spring tray
in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with a NOS '65 tray,
identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than a new reissue on
its first use. The springs had that sound like they do when you fire up
your
tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the reverb, just a
rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure none of the foam
was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't. So I'm just
figuring
the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused, need to be broken
in.
So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been sounding like ass and
its
really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the tank gave me back
the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I thought "Hmmm,
maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply unhook the old springs
and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed them, and set them
side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the other. I rinstalled
them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher tension than the
bottom
one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried both of them as the
"long" spring, matching the existing one with another long one, or vice
versa with the short one?
At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs in the tank and
see
what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs from the
original
spring tray.
-Dano
-=The Nebulas=-
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Cool stuff, Dano! (yep, I'm a gear-nerd, too . . . )
Have you tried the old "shake-the-crap-out-of-the-springs" technique on the
NOS springs? I've never tried it, but have read about techs taking a "new"
spring pan and "loosening" up the springs by shaking it vigorously. It's
one of those things where you have be rough, but gentle, at the same time
(no snickers, please). To keep the springs from sproinging all around, a
piece of cardboard is placed over the open end of the pan while it receives
a few shakes. Just an idea that may coax those old springs into sounding
their age :)
As Mel said, good luck with the experiements!
-Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "-=Dan Ware=-" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
> Hey everyone,
>
> Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some degree the
> gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to replace the spring tray
> in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with a NOS '65 tray,
> identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than a new reissue on
> its first use. The springs had that sound like they do when you fire up
your
> tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the reverb, just a
> rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure none of the foam
> was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't. So I'm just
figuring
> the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused, need to be broken
in.
> So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been sounding like ass and
its
> really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the tank gave me back
> the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I thought "Hmmm,
> maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
> So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply unhook the old springs
> and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed them, and set them
> side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the other. I rinstalled
> them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher tension than the
bottom
> one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried both of them as the
> "long" spring, matching the existing one with another long one, or vice
> versa with the short one?
> At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs in the tank and
see
> what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs from the
original
> spring tray.
>
>
> -Dano
> -=The Nebulas=-
>
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I can add to that method of shaking the springs. When I first started
playing with The Nebulas, I would drive to rehearse two nights a week with
the other guitarist, and I would drive down on Saturdays for an all-day
full-band rehearsal. This lasted steady for about 6 months, and I would
drive 50 miles to, and 50 miles fro every time with my reissue reverb tank
in the way-back (SUV). Oh, I should also add that the screws fell out that
held the brake in, so basically the springs were free to roam. Let me tell
you, to this day that tank is the sweetest sounding thing I've ever heard
(except my '66 before it died). Of course, it's also had the infamous cap n
tube mod performed on it ;)
But yeah, it is safe to say it had the crap shaken out of those springs.
People would get in the car and say "whats that ungodly crashing sound?" and
I would say "what sound?"
SPRISSHHHHH
"THAT ONE!"
"Oh that...that's my reverb tank...why?"
I just didn't even hear it anymore.
-Dano
-=The Nebulas=-
>From: "Dick Messick" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
>Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:31:06 -0400
>
>Cool stuff, Dano! (yep, I'm a gear-nerd, too . . . )
>
>Have you tried the old "shake-the-crap-out-of-the-springs" technique on the
>NOS springs? I've never tried it, but have read about techs taking a "new"
>spring pan and "loosening" up the springs by shaking it vigorously. It's
>one of those things where you have be rough, but gentle, at the same time
>(no snickers, please). To keep the springs from sproinging all around, a
>piece of cardboard is placed over the open end of the pan while it receives
>a few shakes. Just an idea that may coax those old springs into sounding
>their age :)
>
>As Mel said, good luck with the experiements!
>
>-Dick
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "-=Dan Ware=-" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:44 PM
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
>
>
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some degree the
> > gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to replace the spring
>tray
> > in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with a NOS '65
>tray,
> > identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than a new reissue
>on
> > its first use. The springs had that sound like they do when you fire up
>your
> > tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the reverb, just a
> > rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure none of the
>foam
> > was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't. So I'm just
>figuring
> > the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused, need to be broken
>in.
> > So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been sounding like ass and
>its
> > really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the tank gave me
>back
> > the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I thought "Hmmm,
> > maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
> > So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply unhook the old
>springs
> > and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed them, and set
>them
> > side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the other. I
>rinstalled
> > them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher tension than the
>bottom
> > one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried both of them as
>the
> > "long" spring, matching the existing one with another long one, or vice
> > versa with the short one?
> > At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs in the tank and
>see
> > what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs from the
>original
> > spring tray.
> >
> >
> > -Dano
> > -=The Nebulas=-
> >
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The time difference between long and short spring is what
provides that splashy reverb echo effect. It takes longer
for the signal to travel the long spring. Let us know how
your two long spring experiment works out.
dp
--- -=Dan Ware=- <> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some
> degree the
> gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to
> replace the spring tray
> in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with
> a NOS '65 tray,
> identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than
> a new reissue on
> its first use. The springs had that sound like they do
> when you fire up your
> tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the
> reverb, just a
> rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure
> none of the foam
> was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't.
> So I'm just figuring
> the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused,
> need to be broken in.
> So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been
> sounding like ass and its
> really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the
> tank gave me back
> the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I
> thought "Hmmm,
> maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
> So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply
> unhook the old springs
> and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed
> them, and set them
> side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the
> other. I rinstalled
> them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher
> tension than the bottom
> one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried
> both of them as the
> "long" spring, matching the existing one with another
> long one, or vice
> versa with the short one?
> At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs
> in the tank and see
> what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs
> from the original
> spring tray.
>
>
> -Dano
> -=The Nebulas=-
>
>
>
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--- -=Dan Ware=- <> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some
> degree the
> gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to
> replace the spring tray
> in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with
> a NOS '65 tray,
> identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than
> a new reissue on
> its first use. The springs had that sound like they do
> when you fire up your
> tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the
> reverb, just a
> rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure
> none of the foam
> was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't.
> So I'm just figuring
> the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused,
> need to be broken in.
> So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been
> sounding like ass and its
> really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the
> tank gave me back
> the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I
> thought "Hmmm,
> maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
> So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply
> unhook the old springs
> and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed
> them, and set them
> side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the
> other. I rinstalled
> them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher
> tension than the bottom
> one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried
> both of them as the
> "long" spring, matching the existing one with another
> long one, or vice
> versa with the short one?
> At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs
> in the tank and see
> what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs
> from the original
> spring tray.
>
>
> -Dano
> -=The Nebulas=-
>
>
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A two spring tank actually has four springs. That's why they have the clip at
the half way point, to connect two different length springs to make a total of
four different length springs. The coils varie in density of winds.
As I understand this, this helps increase the freq, response, and diffusion.
Making for a more complex sound.
-dave
DP <> wrote:
The time difference between long and short spring is what
provides that splashy reverb echo effect. It takes longer
for the signal to travel the long spring. Let us know how
your two long spring experiment works out.
dp
--- -=Dan Ware=- <> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some
> degree the
> gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to
> replace the spring tray
> in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with
> a NOS '65 tray,
> identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than
> a new reissue on
> its first use. The springs had that sound like they do
> when you fire up your
> tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the
> reverb, just a
> rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure
> none of the foam
> was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't.
> So I'm just figuring
> the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused,
> need to be broken in.
> So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been
> sounding like ass and its
> really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the
> tank gave me back
> the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I
> thought "Hmmm,
> maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
> So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply
> unhook the old springs
> and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed
> them, and set them
> side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the
> other. I rinstalled
> them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher
> tension than the bottom
> one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried
> both of them as the
> "long" spring, matching the existing one with another
> long one, or vice
> versa with the short one?
> At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs
> in the tank and see
> what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs
> from the original
> spring tray.
>
>
> -Dano
> -=The Nebulas=-
>
>
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Wait a minute....Dave Wronski....<rubs eyes>...thee Dave Wronski?
Seriously: Dave, welcome to the list!
BN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave wronski [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:46 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
>
>
> A two spring tank actually has four springs. That's why they have
> the clip at the half way point, to connect two different length
> springs to make a total of four different length springs. The
> coils varie in density of winds.
> As I understand this, this helps increase the freq, response, and
> diffusion. Making for a more complex sound.
> -dave
>
>
I had the same reaction . . . welcome, Dave!
-Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Neal" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
> Wait a minute....Dave Wronski....<rubs eyes>...thee Dave Wronski?
>
> Seriously: Dave, welcome to the list!
>
> BN
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dave wronski [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:46 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
> >
> >
> > A two spring tank actually has four springs. That's why they have
> > the clip at the half way point, to connect two different length
> > springs to make a total of four different length springs. The
> > coils varie in density of winds.
> > As I understand this, this helps increase the freq, response, and
> > diffusion. Making for a more complex sound.
> > -dave
> >
> >
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Dave who?
Ferenc
;)
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>
> -Dick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Neal" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
>
>
>
>>Wait a minute....Dave Wronski....<rubs eyes>...thee Dave Wronski?
>>
>>Seriously: Dave, welcome to the list!
>>
>>BN
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: dave wronski [mailto:]
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:46 AM
>>>To:
>>>Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
>>>
>>>
>>>A two spring tank actually has four springs. That's why they have
>>>the clip at the half way point, to connect two different length
>>>springs to make a total of four different length springs. The
>>>coils varie in density of winds.
>>>As I understand this, this helps increase the freq, response, and
>>>diffusion. Making for a more complex sound.
>>>-dave
>>>
>>>
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Dave, You are the coolest...
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> Wronski?
>
> Seriously: Dave, welcome to the list!
>
> BN
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dave wronski [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:46 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
> >
> >
> > A two spring tank actually has four springs. That's why
> they have
> > the clip at the half way point, to connect two
> different length
> > springs to make a total of four different length
> springs. The
> > coils varie in density of winds.
> > As I understand this, this helps increase the freq,
> response, and
> > diffusion. Making for a more complex sound.
> > -dave
> >
> >
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Dave? ... Dave? Dave's not here Man.
--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferenc@p...>
wrote:
> Dave who?
>
> Ferenc
>
> ;)
>
>
>
>
> Dick Messick wrote:
> > I had the same reaction . . . welcome, Dave!
> >
> > -Dick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Neal" <bneal@i...>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:24 PM
> > Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
> >
> >
> >
> >>Wait a minute....Dave Wronski....<rubs eyes>...thee Dave Wronski?
> >>
> >>Seriously: Dave, welcome to the list!
> >>
> >>BN
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: dave wronski [mailto:stickmandw@y...]
> >>>Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:46 AM
> >>>To:
> >>>Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>A two spring tank actually has four springs. That's why they have
> >>>the clip at the half way point, to connect two different length
> >>>springs to make a total of four different length springs. The
> >>>coils varie in density of winds.
> >>>As I understand this, this helps increase the freq, response, and
> >>>diffusion. Making for a more complex sound.
> >>>-dave
> >>>
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Thanks Brian. Just checking to see what everyone's thinking about.
-dave
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Seriously: Dave, welcome to the list!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave wronski [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:46 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] reverb tank springs
>
>
> A two spring tank actually has four springs. That's why they have
> the clip at the half way point, to connect two different length
> springs to make a total of four different length springs. The
> coils varie in density of winds.
> As I understand this, this helps increase the freq, response, and
> diffusion. Making for a more complex sound.
> -dave
>
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Cool link, DP!
Someone may have mentioned this on the list a while back, but the
Accutronics site has a lot of good info and reference material
(reverb pan diagrams, etc.). Read the theory of operation section
for more details on how the reverb units work - I took me a few
reads (too many words in all caps?), but it does make sense. The
last paragraph talks about the need for different spring lengths.
Here's the URL:
FWIW, while building my 6G15 tank (still workin' on it!), I
contacted Accutronics about proper placement of the reverb pan; they
were very nice and responded quickly to my questions.
-Dick
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> a couple reverb related sites:
>
>
>
>
> --- -=Dan Ware=- <reverbtank@h...> wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to some
> > degree the
> > gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to
> > replace the spring tray
> > in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced with
> > a NOS '65 tray,
> > identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse than
> > a new reissue on
> > its first use. The springs had that sound like they do
> > when you fire up your
> > tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to the
> > reverb, just a
> > rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make sure
> > none of the foam
> > was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it wasn't.
> > So I'm just figuring
> > the springs, being 38 years old, but basically unused,
> > need to be broken in.
> > So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been
> > sounding like ass and its
> > really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced the
> > tank gave me back
> > the old one that came out of it, and in my desperation, I
> > thought "Hmmm,
> > maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
> > So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply
> > unhook the old springs
> > and remove them without any damage at all. So I removed
> > them, and set them
> > side by side, and it turns out one was longer than the
> > other. I rinstalled
> > them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher
> > tension than the bottom
> > one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried
> > both of them as the
> > "long" spring, matching the existing one with another
> > long one, or vice
> > versa with the short one?
> > At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long springs
> > in the tank and see
> > what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old springs
> > from the original
> > spring tray.
> >
> >
> > -Dano
> > -=The Nebulas=-
> >
> >
> >
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Man, that accutronics site has a nice explanation of
reverberation and reverb technology.
thanks for the link!
dp
--- Dick <> wrote:
> Cool link, DP!
>
> Someone may have mentioned this on the list a while back,
> but the
> Accutronics site has a lot of good info and reference
> material
> (reverb pan diagrams, etc.). Read the theory of
> operation section
> for more details on how the reverb units work - I took me
> a few
> reads (too many words in all caps?), but it does make
> sense. The
> last paragraph talks about the need for different spring
> lengths.
> Here's the URL:
>
>
> FWIW, while building my 6G15 tank (still workin' on it!),
> I
> contacted Accutronics about proper placement of the
> reverb pan; they
> were very nice and responded quickly to my questions.
>
> -Dick
>
> --- In , DP <noetical1@y...>
> wrote:
> > a couple reverb related sites:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- -=Dan Ware=- <reverbtank@h...> wrote:
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > > Here's one for you. This will probably reveal to
> some
> > > degree the
> > > gear-nerd I am, but what the hell. OK, so I had to
> > > replace the spring tray
> > > in my '66 reverb tank. I was able to get it replaced
> with
> > > a NOS '65 tray,
> > > identical. Once I brought it home, It sounded worse
> than
> > > a new reissue on
> > > its first use. The springs had that sound like they
> do
> > > when you fire up your
> > > tank and forget to take the brake off. No lushness to
> the
> > > reverb, just a
> > > rapid fire dribble. So I opened it back up to make
> sure
> > > none of the foam
> > > was touching the springs, and lo and behold, it
> wasn't.
> > > So I'm just figuring
> > > the springs, being 38 years old, but basically
> unused,
> > > need to be broken in.
> > > So I've been playing it at rehearsal and its been
> > > sounding like ass and its
> > > really bummin me out. However, the tech who replaced
> the
> > > tank gave me back
> > > the old one that came out of it, and in my
> desperation, I
> > > thought "Hmmm,
> > > maybe I can reuse the old springs..."
> > > So I had a look, and sure enough, you can simply
> > > unhook the old springs
> > > and remove them without any damage at all. So I
> removed
> > > them, and set them
> > > side by side, and it turns out one was longer than
> the
> > > other. I rinstalled
> > > them, and sure enough, the top one rests at a higher
> > > tension than the bottom
> > > one. So now I got to thinking...has anyone ever tried
> > > both of them as the
> > > "long" spring, matching the existing one with another
> > > long one, or vice
> > > versa with the short one?
> > > At rehearsal I'm going to try using both long
> springs
> > > in the tank and see
> > > what effect it has. Otherwise, I'm reusing my old
> springs
> > > from the original
> > > spring tray.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Dano
> > > -=The Nebulas=-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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