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WHAT WILL CHANGE, WHAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME? CAN MUSICIANS WHO DON'T
SURF CONTRIBUTE TO THE MUSIC WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING
WITH SURFING? iF YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
SURFING LIFESTYLE, ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MUSIC VALID. IF YOU
DON'T KNOW THE FEELING OF THE WESTWIND CAN YOU DESCRIBE IT? iF YOU
DON'T KNOW THE EXHILERATION OF DROPPING IN ON A OVERHEAD WAVE HOW CAN
YOU DESCRIBE THE RUSH. WHAT SIZE OF SURFBOARD DO YOU RIDE? cAN YOU
DESCRIBE YOUR FAVORITE BREAK AT DAWN? HOW DO YOU HANDLE DROPPING IN
ON A DRY REEF WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL I'M TALKING
ABOUT CAN A NON-SURFING MUSICIAN CONVINCE A SURFER THAT WHAT HE IS
PLAYING IS FROM PERSONAL FEELINGS AND PASSION ABOUT SURFING? Is the
passion you feel about surfmusic a valid musical expression or are
you copying somebody else cause you think it sounds cool and you want
to sound cool too? Dick Dale Surfs. And he rocks. Do You?
Dang! the capital letters are a little hard to read...but I
think I get the sentiment. Sort of a "Locals Only" rant
for those in the Surfknow! Man, as you probably already
know, more than 3/4 of the Surf Musicians never actually
surf. Dude, that's why imagination, intuition and
creativity were invented. Do you really think
Carmine/Spickard were really surfing Pipeline when they
wrote "Pipeline"...no way! And Miserlou isn't even about
surfing...it's about livin' in Beirut Lebanon watching a
belly dancer and puffing on a hookar full of....wel, you
get the picture. Dude, Using your line of reasoning,
Beethoven could never have written Heroica, because he
never mety Napoleon face to face. Jerry Lee Lewis could
never have written "Great Balls of Fire" because the Gooch
shocking machine wasn't invented until Jackass2002.
Dude, you are missing the point big time. Who cares if
Dick Dale is a big man because he surfs. Surfing as a
sport is super cool...but, surf music is the spiritual
soundtrack.
One other example...do you really think all those wacky
70's porn soundtracks were written and played by Ron
Jeremy? I mean, he was performing all those scenes, he must
have played the soundtrack too...right?
Simply something to think about...
cheers,
DP
--- cowellkiki <> wrote:
> WHAT WILL CHANGE, WHAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME? CAN
> MUSICIANS WHO DON'T
> SURF CONTRIBUTE TO THE MUSIC WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS
> HAPPENING
> WITH SURFING? iF YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCES
> ASSOCIATED WITH THE
> SURFING LIFESTYLE, ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MUSIC
> VALID. IF YOU
> DON'T KNOW THE FEELING OF THE WESTWIND CAN YOU DESCRIBE
> IT? iF YOU
> DON'T KNOW THE EXHILERATION OF DROPPING IN ON A OVERHEAD
> WAVE HOW CAN
> YOU DESCRIBE THE RUSH. WHAT SIZE OF SURFBOARD DO YOU
> RIDE? cAN YOU
> DESCRIBE YOUR FAVORITE BREAK AT DAWN? HOW DO YOU HANDLE
> DROPPING IN
> ON A DRY REEF WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL I'M
> TALKING
> ABOUT CAN A NON-SURFING MUSICIAN CONVINCE A SURFER THAT
> WHAT HE IS
> PLAYING IS FROM PERSONAL FEELINGS AND PASSION ABOUT
> SURFING? Is the
> passion you feel about surfmusic a valid musical
> expression or are
> you copying somebody else cause you think it sounds cool
> and you want
> to sound cool too? Dick Dale Surfs. And he rocks. Do You?
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--- In , "cowellkiki" <dogfish@S...> wrote:
> WHAT WILL CHANGE, WHAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME? CAN MUSICIANS WHO DON'T
> SURF CONTRIBUTE TO THE MUSIC WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING
> WITH SURFING? iF YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
> SURFING LIFESTYLE, ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MUSIC VALID. IF YOU
> DON'T KNOW THE FEELING OF THE WESTWIND CAN YOU DESCRIBE IT? iF YOU
> DON'T KNOW THE EXHILERATION OF DROPPING IN ON A OVERHEAD WAVE HOW CAN
> YOU DESCRIBE THE RUSH. WHAT SIZE OF SURFBOARD DO YOU RIDE? cAN YOU
> DESCRIBE YOUR FAVORITE BREAK AT DAWN? HOW DO YOU HANDLE DROPPING IN
> ON A DRY REEF WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL I'M TALKING
> ABOUT CAN A NON-SURFING MUSICIAN CONVINCE A SURFER THAT WHAT HE IS
> PLAYING IS FROM PERSONAL FEELINGS AND PASSION ABOUT SURFING? Is the
> passion you feel about surfmusic a valid musical expression or are
> you copying somebody else cause you think it sounds cool and you want
> to sound cool too? Dick Dale Surfs. And he rocks. Do You?
Good response DP, you were paying attention. And its quite possible some of
what you say is at least partially accurate. To play the blues do you have to
live it? To express the passion of surfing through music do you have to surf?
Obviously, it is not necessary. Hey its just a discussion. Don't take it so
personal. dogfish
----- Original Message -----
From: DP
To:
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] will surf music evolve beyond what it is now?
Dang! the capital letters are a little hard to read...but I
think I get the sentiment. Sort of a "Locals Only" rant
for those in the Surfknow! Man, as you probably already
know, more than 3/4 of the Surf Musicians never actually
surf. Dude, that's why imagination, intuition and
creativity were invented. Do you really think
Carmine/Spickard were really surfing Pipeline when they
wrote "Pipeline"...no way! And Miserlou isn't even about
surfing...it's about livin' in Beirut Lebanon watching a
belly dancer and puffing on a hookar full of....wel, you
get the picture. Dude, Using your line of reasoning,
Beethoven could never have written Heroica, because he
never mety Napoleon face to face. Jerry Lee Lewis could
never have written "Great Balls of Fire" because the Gooch
shocking machine wasn't invented until Jackass2002.
Dude, you are missing the point big time. Who cares if
Dick Dale is a big man because he surfs. Surfing as a
sport is super cool...but, surf music is the spiritual
soundtrack.
One other example...do you really think all those wacky
70's porn soundtracks were written and played by Ron
Jeremy? I mean, he was performing all those scenes, he must
have played the soundtrack too...right?
Simply something to think about...
cheers,
DP
--- cowellkiki <> wrote:
> WHAT WILL CHANGE, WHAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME? CAN
> MUSICIANS WHO DON'T
> SURF CONTRIBUTE TO THE MUSIC WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS
> HAPPENING
> WITH SURFING? iF YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCES
> ASSOCIATED WITH THE
> SURFING LIFESTYLE, ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MUSIC
> VALID. IF YOU
> DON'T KNOW THE FEELING OF THE WESTWIND CAN YOU DESCRIBE
> IT? iF YOU
> DON'T KNOW THE EXHILERATION OF DROPPING IN ON A OVERHEAD
> WAVE HOW CAN
> YOU DESCRIBE THE RUSH. WHAT SIZE OF SURFBOARD DO YOU
> RIDE? cAN YOU
> DESCRIBE YOUR FAVORITE BREAK AT DAWN? HOW DO YOU HANDLE
> DROPPING IN
> ON A DRY REEF WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL I'M
> TALKING
> ABOUT CAN A NON-SURFING MUSICIAN CONVINCE A SURFER THAT
> WHAT HE IS
> PLAYING IS FROM PERSONAL FEELINGS AND PASSION ABOUT
> SURFING? Is the
> passion you feel about surfmusic a valid musical
> expression or are
> you copying somebody else cause you think it sounds cool
> and you want
> to sound cool too? Dick Dale Surfs. And he rocks. Do You?
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The surfing experience is needed in the music scene,
in my opinion. Not by everybody, I like uncrowded
breaks after all. I think the understandning of
surfing is shallow until you start getting into it.
Until then you might copy a vibe from some other
records, that have a good dose of surfing spirit in
them, but you feel more secure about what you want to
say once you saw the beauty of your subject first
hand.
KK
> --- cowellkiki <> wrote:
> > WHAT WILL CHANGE, WHAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME? CAN
> > MUSICIANS WHO DON'T
> > SURF CONTRIBUTE TO THE MUSIC WHEN THEY DON'T
> KNOW WHAT IS
> > HAPPENING
> > WITH SURFING? iF YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCES
> > ASSOCIATED WITH THE
> > SURFING LIFESTYLE, ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE
> MUSIC
> > VALID. IF YOU
> > DON'T KNOW THE FEELING OF THE WESTWIND CAN YOU
> DESCRIBE
> > IT? iF YOU
> > DON'T KNOW THE EXHILERATION OF DROPPING IN ON A
> OVERHEAD
> > WAVE HOW CAN
> > YOU DESCRIBE THE RUSH. WHAT SIZE OF SURFBOARD DO
> YOU
> > RIDE? cAN YOU
> > DESCRIBE YOUR FAVORITE BREAK AT DAWN? HOW DO
> YOU HANDLE
> > DROPPING IN
> > ON A DRY REEF WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE
> HELL I'M
> > TALKING
> > ABOUT CAN A NON-SURFING MUSICIAN CONVINCE A
> SURFER THAT
> > WHAT HE IS
> > PLAYING IS FROM PERSONAL FEELINGS AND PASSION
> ABOUT
> > SURFING? Is the
> > passion you feel about surfmusic a valid musical
> > expression or are
> > you copying somebody else cause you think it
> sounds cool
> > and you want
> > to sound cool too? Dick Dale Surfs. And he
> rocks. Do You?
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well if you listen to the old ventures and shadowetc
and look at the one band that has changed it all in
the line up for great surf music is MAN OR ASTROMAN
bottom line and who knows where we'll be in the
future.
they are the new pioneers for surf music.......
--- Kahuna Kawentzmann <> wrote:
> The surfing experience is needed in the music scene,
> in my opinion. Not by everybody, I like uncrowded
> breaks after all. I think the understandning of
> surfing is shallow until you start getting into it.
> Until then you might copy a vibe from some other
> records, that have a good dose of surfing spirit in
> them, but you feel more secure about what you want
> to
> say once you saw the beauty of your subject first
> hand.
>
>
> KK
>
>
> > --- cowellkiki <> wrote:
> > > WHAT WILL CHANGE, WHAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME?
> CAN
> > > MUSICIANS WHO DON'T
> > > SURF CONTRIBUTE TO THE MUSIC WHEN THEY DON'T
> > KNOW WHAT IS
> > > HAPPENING
> > > WITH SURFING? iF YOU DON'T HAVE THE
> EXPERIENCES
> > > ASSOCIATED WITH THE
> > > SURFING LIFESTYLE, ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO
> THE
> > MUSIC
> > > VALID. IF YOU
> > > DON'T KNOW THE FEELING OF THE WESTWIND CAN YOU
> > DESCRIBE
> > > IT? iF YOU
> > > DON'T KNOW THE EXHILERATION OF DROPPING IN ON
> A
> > OVERHEAD
> > > WAVE HOW CAN
> > > YOU DESCRIBE THE RUSH. WHAT SIZE OF SURFBOARD
> DO
> > YOU
> > > RIDE? cAN YOU
> > > DESCRIBE YOUR FAVORITE BREAK AT DAWN? HOW DO
> > YOU HANDLE
> > > DROPPING IN
> > > ON A DRY REEF WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT
> THE
> > HELL I'M
> > > TALKING
> > > ABOUT CAN A NON-SURFING MUSICIAN CONVINCE A
> > SURFER THAT
> > > WHAT HE IS
> > > PLAYING IS FROM PERSONAL FEELINGS AND PASSION
> > ABOUT
> > > SURFING? Is the
> > > passion you feel about surfmusic a valid
> musical
> > > expression or are
> > > you copying somebody else cause you think it
> > sounds cool
> > > and you want
> > > to sound cool too? Dick Dale Surfs. And he
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Dude, madonna and moby will end up doing surf before it's all
over...mark my words!
:) dp
--- In , ian pannell
<man_made_of_h20@y...> wrote:
> well if you listen to the old ventures and shadowetc
> and look at the one band that has changed it all in
> the line up for great surf music is MAN OR ASTROMAN
> bottom line and who knows where we'll be in the
> future.
> they are the new pioneers for surf music.......
>
>
>
> --- Kahuna Kawentzmann <kawentzmann@y...> wrote:
> > The surfing experience is needed in the music scene,
> > in my opinion. Not by everybody, I like uncrowded
> > breaks after all. I think the understandning of
> > surfing is shallow until you start getting into it.
> > Until then you might copy a vibe from some other
> > records, that have a good dose of surfing spirit in
> > them, but you feel more secure about what you want
> > to
> > say once you saw the beauty of your subject first
> > hand.
> >
> >
> > KK
> >
> >
> > > --- cowellkiki <dogfish@S...> wrote:
> > > > WHAT WILL CHANGE, WHAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME?
> > CAN
> > > > MUSICIANS WHO DON'T
> > > > SURF CONTRIBUTE TO THE MUSIC WHEN THEY DON'T
> > > KNOW WHAT IS
> > > > HAPPENING
> > > > WITH SURFING? iF YOU DON'T HAVE THE
> > EXPERIENCES
> > > > ASSOCIATED WITH THE
> > > > SURFING LIFESTYLE, ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO
> > THE
> > > MUSIC
> > > > VALID. IF YOU
> > > > DON'T KNOW THE FEELING OF THE WESTWIND CAN YOU
> > > DESCRIBE
> > > > IT? iF YOU
> > > > DON'T KNOW THE EXHILERATION OF DROPPING IN ON
> > A
> > > OVERHEAD
> > > > WAVE HOW CAN
> > > > YOU DESCRIBE THE RUSH. WHAT SIZE OF SURFBOARD
> > DO
> > > YOU
> > > > RIDE? cAN YOU
> > > > DESCRIBE YOUR FAVORITE BREAK AT DAWN? HOW DO
> > > YOU HANDLE
> > > > DROPPING IN
> > > > ON A DRY REEF WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT
> > THE
> > > HELL I'M
> > > > TALKING
> > > > ABOUT CAN A NON-SURFING MUSICIAN CONVINCE A
> > > SURFER THAT
> > > > WHAT HE IS
> > > > PLAYING IS FROM PERSONAL FEELINGS AND PASSION
> > > ABOUT
> > > > SURFING? Is the
> > > > passion you feel about surfmusic a valid
> > musical
> > > > expression or are
> > > > you copying somebody else cause you think it
> > > sounds cool
> > > > and you want
> > > > to sound cool too? Dick Dale Surfs. And he
> > > rocks. Do You?
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--- ian pannell <> wrote:
> well if you listen to the old ventures and shadowetc
> and look at the one band that has changed it all in
> the line up for great surf music is MAN OR ASTROMAN
> bottom line and who knows where we'll be in the
> future.
> they are the new pioneers for surf music.......
Some of their output might technically be called surf
music, but that is not what I mean.
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I've surfed for 26 years, so I think I can handle this one. First, I
got into surf music through high-school surf films, especially the
Bruce Brown films. But I quickly moved on to Led Zeppelin, Hendrix,
Lynyrd Skynrd, CCR, Ted Nugent, the Beatles, along with all my surfing
friends. It's only recently that I've returned to and really started
appreciating surf instrumental music.
I don't think surfing has a lot to do with the appeal of the music.
Sure, it's called surf music because it was associated with the early
60s California cultural scene. And yes, there are certain sounds and
feelings that seem to be derived from surfing. Still, I don't think
that is the essence of the music. It borrows from so many
influences...Spanish, Middle Eastern, blues, Duane Eddy, etc., that
it's silly to think it owes its origins solely to surfing.
George Carlin once said, "how can you play the blues if you're white?
The job of the white man is to GIVE people the blues."
Counter-argument: Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Surf music is a musical form, which is to rock what bebop is to jazz
or metal is to hearing loss. It requires particular technical skills
and a sense of the music's history, drift, and direction. It doesn't
have anything to do with the current surf scene, as near as I can
tell. The surf scene is soooo very different than it was when I
started! If I were to reflect on it today, I'd have to create lyrics
to describe the localism, the polluted water that gives me sinus drip
and rashes, the world-travelers who shit in the pristine waters of
Cloudbreak, and all the middle-aged uppies (like me) riding
longboards! Oh, and the commercialism. I'd go back to instrumental
surf music to explain how it makes me feel, however.
Yeah, Dick Dale surfs. He surfs lousy. I talked to people who knew him
and they said that he never really surfed much, he just hung out
around Malibu and talked the game. So what? He played a mean guitar.
He was, and is, a musician. And so were the early surf players. And so
are today's surf players.
Once, I asked the snowboarding drummer in Dave Grohl's band The Foo
Fighters "Is the association of alternative rock music with
snowboarding/surfing/skating legitimate? His reply? He thought it was
a big marketing gimic designed by record labels to get kids to accept
certain bands. The skaters/surfers/snowboarders were the style
leaders, the ones the other kids looked up to and followed. They were
cool. So, get them to listen to the music, and all the wanna-be-cool
kids will follow like cows.
That's what happened with surf music in the 1960s - kids all over the
country wanted to be like the surfer kids in California. And those
kids had their own type of instrumental music. The result: surf music.
The important thing is not the surfing - it's a love of that original
form of music and a willingness to tweak, test, and push its
boundaries. And so, the music evolves in spite of, and with very
little relaton to, the sport. You don't need to ride a board to play
the music or love the music or understand the music. It doesn't hurt,
however...
My favorite break at dawn: Lighthouse Point, Metachen Bay, San Blas,
Nyarit Mexico (a left that breaks around a double point and all the
way across the bay on the rare perfect north swell).
I ride a 7'6" Hobie Dolphin-tri fin made by Stewart Surfboards, and a
9'6" tri-fin Gordon & Smith noserider special. Lamentably, I only get
to go to the ocean once or twice a year!
If I saw a "dry reef" while surfing, I'd probably poop my Birdwell
Beach Britches...generally, I don't ride big sucking waves and prefer
beach breaks to reef breaks. Call me a pussy...
P.S. My gear includes a Fender Jag, Line 6 Variax, and an Aria ES-335
clone, a Fender Hot Rod Amp, and Fender '63 Reissue Reverb tank. And
they have a lot more to do with my sound and musical expression than
my surfboards!
Yeehaw...now that's a sweet reply!
Thanks for setting it all down for posterity. This sounds
like the definitive response, and now the topic can rest
for a while.
Gavin, you are my hero.
cheers,
DP
--- Gavin Ehringer <> wrote:
> I've surfed for 26 years, so I think I can handle this
> one. First, I
> got into surf music through high-school surf films,
> especially the
> Bruce Brown films. But I quickly moved on to Led
> Zeppelin, Hendrix,
> Lynyrd Skynrd, CCR, Ted Nugent, the Beatles, along with
> all my surfing
> friends. It's only recently that I've returned to and
> really started
> appreciating surf instrumental music.
>
> I don't think surfing has a lot to do with the appeal of
> the music.
> Sure, it's called surf music because it was associated
> with the early
> 60s California cultural scene. And yes, there are certain
> sounds and
> feelings that seem to be derived from surfing. Still, I
> don't think
> that is the essence of the music. It borrows from so many
> influences...Spanish, Middle Eastern, blues, Duane Eddy,
> etc., that
> it's silly to think it owes its origins solely to
> surfing.
>
> George Carlin once said, "how can you play the blues if
> you're white?
> The job of the white man is to GIVE people the blues."
> Counter-argument: Stevie Ray Vaughan.
>
> Surf music is a musical form, which is to rock what bebop
> is to jazz
> or metal is to hearing loss. It requires particular
> technical skills
> and a sense of the music's history, drift, and direction.
> It doesn't
> have anything to do with the current surf scene, as near
> as I can
> tell. The surf scene is soooo very different than it was
> when I
> started! If I were to reflect on it today, I'd have to
> create lyrics
> to describe the localism, the polluted water that gives
> me sinus drip
> and rashes, the world-travelers who shit in the pristine
> waters of
> Cloudbreak, and all the middle-aged uppies (like me)
> riding
> longboards! Oh, and the commercialism. I'd go back to
> instrumental
> surf music to explain how it makes me feel, however.
>
> Yeah, Dick Dale surfs. He surfs lousy. I talked to people
> who knew him
> and they said that he never really surfed much, he just
> hung out
> around Malibu and talked the game. So what? He played a
> mean guitar.
> He was, and is, a musician. And so were the early surf
> players. And so
> are today's surf players.
>
> Once, I asked the snowboarding drummer in Dave Grohl's
> band The Foo
> Fighters "Is the association of alternative rock music
> with
> snowboarding/surfing/skating legitimate? His reply? He
> thought it was
> a big marketing gimic designed by record labels to get
> kids to accept
> certain bands. The skaters/surfers/snowboarders were the
> style
> leaders, the ones the other kids looked up to and
> followed. They were
> cool. So, get them to listen to the music, and all the
> wanna-be-cool
> kids will follow like cows.
>
> That's what happened with surf music in the 1960s - kids
> all over the
> country wanted to be like the surfer kids in California.
> And those
> kids had their own type of instrumental music. The
> result: surf music.
>
> The important thing is not the surfing - it's a love of
> that original
> form of music and a willingness to tweak, test, and push
> its
> boundaries. And so, the music evolves in spite of, and
> with very
> little relaton to, the sport. You don't need to ride a
> board to play
> the music or love the music or understand the music. It
> doesn't hurt,
> however...
>
> My favorite break at dawn: Lighthouse Point, Metachen
> Bay, San Blas,
> Nyarit Mexico (a left that breaks around a double point
> and all the
> way across the bay on the rare perfect north swell).
>
> I ride a 7'6" Hobie Dolphin-tri fin made by Stewart
> Surfboards, and a
> 9'6" tri-fin Gordon & Smith noserider special.
> Lamentably, I only get
> to go to the ocean once or twice a year!
>
> If I saw a "dry reef" while surfing, I'd probably poop my
> Birdwell
> Beach Britches...generally, I don't ride big sucking
> waves and prefer
> beach breaks to reef breaks. Call me a pussy...
>
> P.S. My gear includes a Fender Jag, Line 6 Variax, and an
> Aria ES-335
> clone, a Fender Hot Rod Amp, and Fender '63 Reissue
> Reverb tank. And
> they have a lot more to do with my sound and musical
> expression than
> my surfboards!
>
>
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> --- Gavin Ehringer <>
> wrote:
> > George Carlin once said, "how can you play the
> blues if
> > you're white?
> > The job of the white man is to GIVE people the
> blues."
> > Counter-argument: Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Its always nice and safe to come 30-40 years later,
get all the must have records, see all the old guys
perform and THEN do your version of the originators
music. We all do that more or less. Maybe because you
can do it WITHOUT the real original inspiration. Its
MOSTLY white guys taking care of the roots music
drawers content. Yes, and bands like the Astronauts
were early adopters, they felt the kick in the stomack
of cranked showman, took notes and copied the whole
approach. After all, it was the first time such power
was unleashed on teenage ears. Outside of the water
that is.
KK
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