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I've got my tax return check and I'm agonizing over
this decision. I want an amp, but I don't want to go
overboard...I don't want to buy something I'm not
going to be happy with long term either. I'm mainly
bouncing back and forth between the HRD and Twin
'verb. I can pick up a slightly used Twin REverb RI
an hour or so from where I live, or I can buy a Hot
Rod Deluxe and spend the money for a new speaker and
tubes. I like the sound of the Twin more than the
Deluxe, but I keep hearing about how much better they
sound with new tubes and a better speaker. Anybody
got any insight?
Richard
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:59 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Deciding b/t HRDeluxe and Twin Reverb
I've got my tax return check and I'm agonizing over
this decision. I want an amp, but I don't want to go
overboard...I don't want to buy something I'm not
going to be happy with long term either. I'm mainly
bouncing back and forth between the HRD and Twin
'verb. I can pick up a slightly used Twin REverb RI
an hour or so from where I live, or I can buy a Hot
Rod Deluxe and spend the money for a new speaker and
tubes. I like the sound of the Twin more than the
Deluxe, but I keep hearing about how much better they
sound with new tubes and a better speaker. Anybody
got any insight?
Richard
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Thanks for the input on SD Vintage pups for Jag...now, allow me to
return the favor.
I bought a used HRD and promptly replaced the lousy Eminence speaker
with a Weber California 12, tbe speaker Ted Weber recommended as best
for clean surf sound. I also retubed the preamp stage with new Ei
tubes, a decent copy of the old Telefunken silver plate tubes. Much
chimier and harmonic than the original Groove Tubes. Then, I hooked up
a 10w Ibanez solid-state acoustic amp to emphasize the subtle highs
that you can't get with a normal big-speaker single combo. Weird, but
a fantastic sound!
Sans any changes, the HRD is loud and has lots of features. I
especially like the effects loop, and the reverb ain't bad. However, I
use a outboard Fender RI reverb tank, so hardly use the combo reverb.
I recently a/b'd my modified amp next to a reissue Twin Reverb, a
reissue Vibro King, and a Deluxe Reverb Reissue. Oddly, one DRRI
sounded great - real deep tone, a great reverb sound. The other sucked
- flat and not as nuanced and "tube toned." In any case, the reissues
all sounded somewhat more authentic to the old Fender tube amp sound.
If I could do it again, I would have gladly spend the extra dough on
the Twin Reverb.
That said, if you are interested in an HRD with a nice Weber speaker
and Ei tubes... ;-)
Good luck in your quest for the tonal Holy Grail.
Gavin "The Tone Monster" Ehringer, aka Windansea Beachboy
> Richard
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Hot Rod Deluxe vs. a Twin Reverb?
That's like Pee Wee Herman vs. The Rock.
I second Jim's motion. Save your money. A slightly used reissue Twin will
run you 700-1000. Anything thats going for less than 700 is a little more
used than "slightly".
Let me ask you this: what do you want to use the amp for?
-If you want to play out in a live setting with a full band, then the TR is
basically par for the course.
-If it's playing in a basement or sideroom without a full band, the TR is
overkill.
If it's at home, I can save you a ton of money and recommend the Vox
Cambridge 30 Twin. Extremely versatile tube amp with a really impressive
onboard reverb, decent vibrato and definitely has the sack to scare the cat
out of the room.
So back to my first question: whattya wanna use the amp for?
-Dano
-=The Nebulas=-
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>Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:26:18 -0500
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>double the amount you withold for next year and buy a '64 Bassman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:59 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Deciding b/t HRDeluxe and Twin Reverb
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> I've got my tax return check and I'm agonizing over
> this decision. I want an amp, but I don't want to go
> overboard...I don't want to buy something I'm not
> going to be happy with long term either. I'm mainly
> bouncing back and forth between the HRD and Twin
> 'verb. I can pick up a slightly used Twin REverb RI
> an hour or so from where I live, or I can buy a Hot
> Rod Deluxe and spend the money for a new speaker and
> tubes. I like the sound of the Twin more than the
> Deluxe, but I keep hearing about how much better they
> sound with new tubes and a better speaker. Anybody
> got any insight?
>
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Well, right now, I'm only playing at home. I'm still
actively trying to put something together band-wise,
but who konws how long that could take. The reason I
was looking at diving right into the big stuff is for
one reason: I've been in the hobby-hole before. You
buy something that'll do, or that's just as much as
you think you need...then you spend the money to take
the next step up, and then another step up, doing this
and that, and the next thing you know you could've
just gone ahead and bought your dream setup for half
of what you've spent screwing around with everything
else.
But then, heck, most of the guys I know in bands don't
have amps as nice as either of the two I'm looking at.
I spent a lot of time hunting Ampeg Reverbrockets but
wasn't willing to drop the green they were going for
on eBay. I had never thought about a Vox before, but
it sounds like it might be a good idea. If I can find
one around here I'll try it out.
Richard
--- -=Dan Ware=- <> wrote:
> So back to my first question: whattya wanna use the
> amp for?
>
>
> -Dano
> -=The Nebulas=-
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Hey Gavin, I tried to email you but it isn't working.
Email me about your HRDlx.
Richard
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