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Hey all - posted this in the new SG101 forum, but thought I'd give a
crack at it here also...
Here's the deal - my main rig is guitar-->couple of pedals-->60W head--
>2x12 cab. This works great for larger venues, but for the smaller
clubs/coffeehouses/whatevers, a secondary amp with a smaller footprint
would be ideal. I still plan on using the outboard tank with it, and
lower wattage wouldn't be a bad thing either, as it'll more than
likely be my practice amp, with my main rig staying at the rehearsal
space.
I love Fender amps, but I'm not married to the idea of a Fender combo,
either, so all suggestions, well, bring 'em on.
_________________
Butch
The Cavefish
Best Club and Studio amp of all time, BAR-NONE: The Fender Deluxe Reverb.
The one I use for nearly all indoor gigs.
Bruce D
Patrick <> wrote:
Hey all - posted this in the new SG101 forum, but thought I'd give a
crack at it here also...
Here's the deal - my main rig is guitar-->couple of pedals-->60W head--
>2x12 cab. This works great for larger venues, but for the smaller
clubs/coffeehouses/whatevers, a secondary amp with a smaller footprint
would be ideal. I still plan on using the outboard tank with it, and
lower wattage wouldn't be a bad thing either, as it'll more than
likely be my practice amp, with my main rig staying at the rehearsal
space.
I love Fender amps, but I'm not married to the idea of a Fender combo,
either, so all suggestions, well, bring 'em on.
_________________
Butch
The Cavefish
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Nothin' touches my '63 Blackface Deluxe, but I am a wild man
about Reverend's Hellhound (60/40w), Goblin(15/5w) and
Kingsnake (60/20w) combos. They have stellar clean tones with
the versatility of dialing in crunch and distorted tones if you
want. They are single channel amps but they have what they
call a "schizo" switch for US (Fender)/UK (Hiwatt/ Marshall
/Vox)& Low Fi (Supro/Magnatone) voicings. Do they exactly
nail all these sounds? No, but IMHO they come pretty close.
They are killer little tone machines to my ears.The amps
are super light, have a small footprint, and don't cost
a fortune. The reverb in the Hellhound is not very deep, but
is pretty good in the Kingsnake and Goblin. But you're using
an outboard tank anyway, so that's no big deal. Reverend has
discontinued their amps to concentrate on their line of guitars,
so grab one quick, if you can find one. Reverend has a few
Goblins left. I see Hellhounds on E-Bay all the time. There
are a lot of very good small amps to choose from nowadays.
Good luck!
Bob S.
--- In , "Patrick" <reverb_10000@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey all - posted this in the new SG101 forum, but thought I'd give
a
> crack at it here also...
>
> Here's the deal - my main rig is guitar-->couple of pedals-->60W
head--
> >2x12 cab. This works great for larger venues, but for the smaller
> clubs/coffeehouses/whatevers, a secondary amp with a smaller
footprint
> would be ideal. I still plan on using the outboard tank with it,
and
> lower wattage wouldn't be a bad thing either, as it'll more than
> likely be my practice amp, with my main rig staying at the
rehearsal
> space.
>
> I love Fender amps, but I'm not married to the idea of a Fender
combo,
> either, so all suggestions, well, bring 'em on.
> _________________
>
> Butch
> The Cavefish
>
Some may not agree with me on this (and maybe it isn't
really all that small...) but I really liked the
Peavey Delta 2x10 @ 30 watts I sometimes visit at a
local shop. Definitely not very Fender but pretty
good reverb to my ears. I'm sure that it's made for
pushing to break up but I've played two guitars
through it on 2 and the volume was good and it stayed
clean.
Richard
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apart from the all the other great suggestions, you could also get an
attenuator (sucking up some of the power between head and cab, Weber
has adjustable attenuators that let you select power-drop and
supposedly keep the sound) ... or those devices that let you use
lower-wattage output tubes (yellowjackets? there are other brands too
I think, might not be the best solution if you want to use the amp
full power too, you might need rebias.)
or, depending on the speakers you have now, you could try less
efficient speakers, with or without earlier break-up if you desire.
really, speaker efficiency makes ALL the difference in how loud your
amp gets. If you like the sound of speakers right before or on the
break-up point (as I do), speakers with earlier breakup squeeze
better sound from the amp at lower settings.
just some ideas. buying a new amp will probably make you feel way
better then one of the above solutions, though ;-)
WR
--- In , "Patrick" <reverb_10000@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey all - posted this in the new SG101 forum, but thought I'd give
a
> crack at it here also...
>
> Here's the deal - my main rig is guitar-->couple of pedals-->60W
head--
> >2x12 cab. This works great for larger venues, but for the smaller
> clubs/coffeehouses/whatevers, a secondary amp with a smaller
footprint
> would be ideal. I still plan on using the outboard tank with it,
and
> lower wattage wouldn't be a bad thing either, as it'll more than
> likely be my practice amp, with my main rig staying at the
rehearsal
> space.
>
> I love Fender amps, but I'm not married to the idea of a Fender
combo,
> either, so all suggestions, well, bring 'em on.
> _________________
>
> Butch
> The Cavefish
>
Awesome, a fellow Reverend man! The amp in question is a Hellhound
40-60, the tone it get's on the UK setting, gain about midnight,
with the outboard reverb, well, I love it. If I could find a
Reverend combo, that'd be ideal, but they're getting scarce, and the
ones on the 'bay are getting more and more pricey (not THAT
expensive, but I don't plan on spending $700 or more on a Reverend
when I could get something else, seeing as how I've already got
one...)
--- In , "Bob Steingraber"
<bobsteingraber@...> wrote:
>
> Nothin' touches my '63 Blackface Deluxe, but I am a wild man
> about Reverend's Hellhound (60/40w), Goblin(15/5w) and
> Kingsnake (60/20w) combos. They have stellar clean tones with
> the versatility of dialing in crunch and distorted tones if you
> want. They are single channel amps but they have what they
> call a "schizo" switch for US (Fender)/UK (Hiwatt/ Marshall
> /Vox)& Low Fi (Supro/Magnatone) voicings. Do they exactly
> nail all these sounds? No, but IMHO they come pretty close.
> They are killer little tone machines to my ears.The amps
> are super light, have a small footprint, and don't cost
> a fortune. The reverb in the Hellhound is not very deep, but
> is pretty good in the Kingsnake and Goblin. But you're using
> an outboard tank anyway, so that's no big deal. Reverend has
> discontinued their amps to concentrate on their line of guitars,
> so grab one quick, if you can find one. Reverend has a few
> Goblins left. I see Hellhounds on E-Bay all the time. There
> are a lot of very good small amps to choose from nowadays.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bob S.
>
>
>
>
> --- In , "Patrick" <reverb_10000@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all - posted this in the new SG101 forum, but thought I'd
give
> a
> > crack at it here also...
> >
> > Here's the deal - my main rig is guitar-->couple of pedals-->60W
> head--
> > >2x12 cab. This works great for larger venues, but for the
smaller
> > clubs/coffeehouses/whatevers, a secondary amp with a smaller
> footprint
> > would be ideal. I still plan on using the outboard tank with it,
> and
> > lower wattage wouldn't be a bad thing either, as it'll more than
> > likely be my practice amp, with my main rig staying at the
> rehearsal
> > space.
> >
> > I love Fender amps, but I'm not married to the idea of a Fender
> combo,
> > either, so all suggestions, well, bring 'em on.
> > _________________
> >
> > Butch
> > The Cavefish
> >
>
> as a surf style practise amp it would be really hard now
> to beat the Fender GDEC for noodling around.
> the preset surf beats and choice of effects keep
> you jamming into the early hours. They reckon its
> 15 watts not sure about that probably with a more
> efficient speaker . But for the dollars its good value
>
> bing
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Some may not agree with me on this (and maybe it isn't
> really all that small...) but I really liked the
> Peavey Delta 2x10 @ 30 watts I sometimes visit at a
> local shop. Definitely not very Fender but pretty
> good reverb to my ears. I'm sure that it's made for
> pushing to break up but I've played two guitars
> through it on 2 and the volume was good and it stayed
> clean.
>
> Richard
>
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out of curiosity, after reading this post, i plugged my reverb tank
into my GDEC. it's not a replacement for a good tube amp but at least
it puts the 'drip' into the speaker. carol
-- In , mickeyb1 <mickeyb1@...> wrote:
>
> > as a surf style practise amp it would be really hard now
> > to beat the Fender GDEC for noodling around.
> > the preset surf beats and choice of effects keep
> > you jamming into the early hours. They reckon its
> > 15 watts not sure about that probably with a more
> > efficient speaker . But for the dollars its good value
> >
> > bing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Some may not agree with me on this (and maybe it isn't
> > really all that small...) but I really liked the
> > Peavey Delta 2x10 @ 30 watts I sometimes visit at a
> > local shop. Definitely not very Fender but pretty
> > good reverb to my ears. I'm sure that it's made for
> > pushing to break up but I've played two guitars
> > through it on 2 and the volume was good and it stayed
> > clean.
> >
> > Richard
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
I really like the Roland MicroCube...it's very compact and
can run on AA batteries if you want to go mobile. It has
cool effects and a selection of Sim Amps...fun stuff...
the reverb and tremelo are decent sounding for practice and
the price was good too...@$125...cool little amp!
:) -dp
--- mickeyb1 <> wrote:
> > as a surf style practise amp it would be really hard
> now
> > to beat the Fender GDEC for noodling around.
> > the preset surf beats and choice of effects keep
> > you jamming into the early hours. They reckon its
> > 15 watts not sure about that probably with a more
> > efficient speaker . But for the dollars its good value
> >
> > bing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Some may not agree with me on this (and maybe it isn't
> > really all that small...) but I really liked the
> > Peavey Delta 2x10 @ 30 watts I sometimes visit at a
> > local shop. Definitely not very Fender but pretty
> > good reverb to my ears. I'm sure that it's made for
> > pushing to break up but I've played two guitars
> > through it on 2 and the volume was good and it stayed
> > clean.
> >
> > Richard
> >
>
>
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I have a Kalamazoo Model 2 from the 1960's with 1x 8" speaker. The
controls are tone, volume, and tremolo (only speed, depth is set).
I was looking for a small studio amp the would break up at lower
volumes, and found this mint one for around $125 CDN. It sounds
great with the reverb tank!
I also have an old Dano Cadet that is very dark/bassy sounding. Not
my favourite amp, but it works in certain circumstances. Anyone
know what I can do to brighten up the sound?
Mike
--- In , DP <noetical1@...> wrote:
>
> I really like the Roland MicroCube...it's very compact and
> can run on AA batteries if you want to go mobile. It has
> cool effects and a selection of Sim Amps...fun stuff...
> the reverb and tremelo are decent sounding for practice and
> the price was good too...@$125...cool little amp!
>
> :) -dp
>
> --- mickeyb1 <mickeyb1@...> wrote:
>
> > > as a surf style practise amp it would be really hard
> > now
> > > to beat the Fender GDEC for noodling around.
> > > the preset surf beats and choice of effects keep
> > > you jamming into the early hours. They reckon its
> > > 15 watts not sure about that probably with a more
> > > efficient speaker . But for the dollars its good value
> > >
> > > bing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some may not agree with me on this (and maybe it isn't
> > > really all that small...) but I really liked the
> > > Peavey Delta 2x10 @ 30 watts I sometimes visit at a
> > > local shop. Definitely not very Fender but pretty
> > > good reverb to my ears. I'm sure that it's made for
> > > pushing to break up but I've played two guitars
> > > through it on 2 and the volume was good and it stayed
> > > clean.
> > >
> > > Richard
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Try a Peavey Classic 30...I had used it for decent surf sound as well
as good crunch when you need it. The Fender Blues Jr. is also nice.
DK
--- In , "urbansurfkings"
<surfkings@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Kalamazoo Model 2 from the 1960's with 1x 8" speaker. The
> controls are tone, volume, and tremolo (only speed, depth is set).
> I was looking for a small studio amp the would break up at lower
> volumes, and found this mint one for around $125 CDN. It sounds
> great with the reverb tank!
>
> I also have an old Dano Cadet that is very dark/bassy sounding.
Not
> my favourite amp, but it works in certain circumstances. Anyone
> know what I can do to brighten up the sound?
>
> Mike
>
>
> --- In , DP <noetical1@> wrote:
> >
> > I really like the Roland MicroCube...it's very compact and
> > can run on AA batteries if you want to go mobile. It has
> > cool effects and a selection of Sim Amps...fun stuff...
> > the reverb and tremelo are decent sounding for practice and
> > the price was good too...@$125...cool little amp!
> >
> > :) -dp
> >
> > --- mickeyb1 <mickeyb1@> wrote:
> >
> > > > as a surf style practise amp it would be really hard
> > > now
> > > > to beat the Fender GDEC for noodling around.
> > > > the preset surf beats and choice of effects keep
> > > > you jamming into the early hours. They reckon its
> > > > 15 watts not sure about that probably with a more
> > > > efficient speaker . But for the dollars its good value
> > > >
> > > > bing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Some may not agree with me on this (and maybe it isn't
> > > > really all that small...) but I really liked the
> > > > Peavey Delta 2x10 @ 30 watts I sometimes visit at a
> > > > local shop. Definitely not very Fender but pretty
> > > > good reverb to my ears. I'm sure that it's made for
> > > > pushing to break up but I've played two guitars
> > > > through it on 2 and the volume was good and it stayed
> > > > clean.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
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--- In , DP <noetical1@...> wrote:
>
> I really like the Roland MicroCube...it's very compact and
> can run on AA batteries if you want to go mobile. It has
> cool effects and a selection of Sim Amps...fun stuff...
> the reverb and tremelo are decent sounding for practice and
> the price was good too...@$125...cool little amp!
>
I second that. These little guys sound amazing for the size.
Unfortunately I now want the little Vox battery powered amp, which I
have a feeling is even better.
Shawn Martin
Life is short. Play for the music. Wear your heart on your sleeve.
So I wouldn't get a big head, I was given the gift of a handicap to
keep me in constant touch with my limitations -Apostle Paul
I had the cube 30,very good-effects-different amps tones- but too digital.
now I'm going with a -little- Vox valvetronix-50 watt or low as you want,one
preamp tube ,sounds good,but tubes are tubes!
bruno
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From: "Shawn Martin" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:07 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Looking for smaller 2nd amp
> --- In , DP <noetical1@...> wrote:
>>
>> I really like the Roland MicroCube...it's very compact and
>> can run on AA batteries if you want to go mobile. It has
>> cool effects and a selection of Sim Amps...fun stuff...
>> the reverb and tremelo are decent sounding for practice and
>> the price was good too...@$125...cool little amp!
>>
>
>
> I second that. These little guys sound amazing for the size.
> Unfortunately I now want the little Vox battery powered amp, which I
> have a feeling is even better.
>
>
> Shawn Martin
>
>
> Life is short. Play for the music. Wear your heart on your sleeve.
>
> So I wouldn't get a big head, I was given the gift of a handicap to
> keep me in constant touch with my limitations -Apostle Paul
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I have a Classic 30 and it *is* a nice amp. It is,
however, very loud. I've played out w/it many times.
If you play it in the house for practice or home
recording, your significant other will probably tell
you to "knock it off".
A more "reasonable" small amp, for me anyway, is the
VOX AD15VT. I replaced the stock 8" speaker w/a Weber
AlNiCo Sig8s and the clean tones are superb with great
VOX chime and Fender twang. The only down side to this
amp is that it has a low level hiss that doesn't go
away even w/every knob turned down, and the line out
is useless as the signal is before the power amp stage
(which is the point of the Valvetronix design in the
first place).
~ Jonathan
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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:04:07 -0000
From: "SPF-4" <>
Subject: Re: Looking for smaller 2nd amp
Try a Peavey Classic 30...I had used it for decent
surf sound as well
as good crunch when you need it. The Fender Blues Jr.
is also nice.
DK
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> .... the line out is useless as the signal is before the
> power amp stage....
Well, yes, that's why it's called a Line Out signal instead
of a Power Amp Out signal, or even an EXT SPKR signal. A
Line Out signal is supposed to be at about 1 volt p-p into
600 ohms. You can use a resistor to knock a power amp's
signal down to that level, but that just introduces additional,
and undesireable, signal shaping. Line Out is supposed to
represent the preamp's signal as accurately as possible, it
isn't supposed to be merely a small-signal version of the
power amplifier's output.
> ... (which is the point of the Valvetronix design in the
> first place).
I disagree. The whole point of an amplifier's design is to
get sound out of a speaker, not out of a Line Out jack.
The Line Out jack is a convenience, usually used for recording,
but also handy for processing a signal after the preamp stage,
and before the power amp stage (if a companion Line In jack
has also been provided).
In the final analysis, if you want the whole amplifier's tone
to show up in your recordings, you won't get it from a Line
Out jack, no matter where it's placed in the circuitry. For
that, you need to use a microphone in front of the speaker,
plain and simple.
unlunf
--- In , LBOP Dot Net <jville.geo@...> wrote:
>
> .....
> A more "reasonable" small amp, for me anyway, is the
> VOX AD15VT. I replaced the stock 8" speaker w/a Weber
> AlNiCo Sig8s and the clean tones are superb with great
> VOX chime and Fender twang. The only down side to this
> amp is that it has a low level hiss that doesn't go
> away even w/every knob turned down, and the line out
> is useless as the signal is before the power amp stage
> (which is the point of the Valvetronix design in the
> first place).
>
> ~ Jonathan
>
Yes, I know what you're saying unlunf... It's a matter
of my expectations not being met by reality. What I
really want is the whole amp sound being piped out the
jack...some modeling amp/POD-like devices call this
the >speaker emulated output<. The VOX AD15VT has a
>conventional< (as you described) line out. I've been
spoiled by POD devices.
The VOX Valvetronix design models the actual tube
power amp stage of an amp (single ended Class A,
push-pull AB, neg. feedback or no feedback, etc.)
including the reactance of an output transformer. It
really is impressive...guys have gigged with only the
floor pedal version of this thing (Valvetronix box)
feeding into the FOH mixer with great results. This is
the "whole point" of the design that you don't get
using the line out jack.
As it is, I use a mic (of which I have no shortage of
with my choice of the old standby SM57, Oktava MC-012
or Shure KSM32 condenser mic...among others) on that
sweet Weber speaker.
~ Jonathan
--- wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:27:24 -0000
From: "unlunf" <>
Subject: Re: Looking for smaller 2nd amp
Jonathan,
> .... the line out is useless as the signal is before
the
> power amp stage....
Well, yes, that's why it's called a Line Out signal
instead
of a Power Amp Out signal, or even an EXT SPKR signal.
A
Line Out signal is supposed to be at about 1 volt p-p
into
600 ohms. You can use a resistor to knock a power
amp's
signal down to that level, but that just introduces
additional,
and undesireable, signal shaping. Line Out is
supposed to
represent the preamp's signal as accurately as
possible, it
isn't supposed to be merely a small-signal version of
the
power amplifier's output.
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Jonathan,
I stand chastised. Or rather, I sit chastised. <g> It was
kind of you not to blast me for making the assumptions that
I did, thanks.
Yes, simulators, even mediocre ones, can spoil a guy. As I
think I've noted elsewhere, I've several 'toys' that do the
same thing as your Valvetronix box, only in much greater
detail. That said, I've also grown into the camp, started
by Bruce Duncan that says, "Carry lightly, and make big
sound with a mic" (or something like that). <g>
About the only reason to keep the Twins now is to make my
son-in-law earn his beers. <lol> Well, they may also go up
in value one of these years, and since I'm not hurting for
the space.....
unlunf
--- In , LBOP Dot Net <jville.geo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, I know what you're saying unlunf... It's a matter
> of my expectations not being met by reality. What I
> really want is the whole amp sound being piped out the
> jack...some modeling amp/POD-like devices call this
> the >speaker emulated output<. The VOX AD15VT has a
> >conventional< (as you described) line out. I've been
> spoiled by POD devices.
>
> The VOX Valvetronix design models the actual tube
> power amp stage of an amp (single ended Class A,
> push-pull AB, neg. feedback or no feedback, etc.)
> including the reactance of an output transformer. It
> really is impressive...guys have gigged with only the
> floor pedal version of this thing (Valvetronix box)
> feeding into the FOH mixer with great results. This is
> the "whole point" of the design that you don't get
> using the line out jack.
>
> As it is, I use a mic (of which I have no shortage of
> with my choice of the old standby SM57, Oktava MC-012
> or Shure KSM32 condenser mic...among others) on that
> sweet Weber speaker.
>
> ~ Jonathan
>
I got a Vox Valvetronix ADVT15 for $100 (used) and it's
a good sounding little practice amp. The 15 watt power
section is solid state, and pretty loud. There's a 12AX7
in the preamp which warms up the tone considerably. The
digital reverb sounds good. The 8" speaker sounds waaaay
bigger. It is very light-weight, and has a tiny footprint.
The amp models and effects are pretty good, some better than
others. I prefer my Fender and Reverend all tube amps, but
this little beast RAWKS!!! Big bang for the buck here...
Bob S.
--- In , "Bruno" <brunobrnr@...> wrote:
>
> I had the cube 30,very good-effects-different amps tones- but too
digital.
> now I'm going with a -little- Vox valvetronix-50 watt or low as you
want,one
> preamp tube ,sounds good,but tubes are tubes!
> bruno
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn Martin" <drumuitar@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:07 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Looking for smaller 2nd amp
>
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> > --- In , DP <noetical1@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I really like the Roland MicroCube...it's very compact and
> >> can run on AA batteries if you want to go mobile. It has
> >> cool effects and a selection of Sim Amps...fun stuff...
> >> the reverb and tremelo are decent sounding for practice and
> >> the price was good too...@$125...cool little amp!
> >>
> >
> >
> > I second that. These little guys sound amazing for the size.
> > Unfortunately I now want the little Vox battery powered amp,
which I
> > have a feeling is even better.
> >
> >
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I might throw in here that while I like to carry light, my amp is just an amp,
with no simulators or emulations, and everyone, surf-music fans included, who've
heard me play using the Jensen Neodymium speakers, has expressed disbelief at
how big and bassy their sound is. Also, I didn't actually start this - others
started using the Crate Power Block before I did. :-)
Bruce D
unlunf <> wrote:
Jonathan,
I stand chastised. Or rather, I sit chastised. <g> It was
kind of you not to blast me for making the assumptions that
I did, thanks.
Yes, simulators, even mediocre ones, can spoil a guy. As I
think I've noted elsewhere, I've several 'toys' that do the
same thing as your Valvetronix box, only in much greater
detail. That said, I've also grown into the camp, started
by Bruce Duncan that says, "Carry lightly, and make big
sound with a mic" (or something like that). <g>
About the only reason to keep the Twins now is to make my
son-in-law earn his beers. <lol> Well, they may also go up
in value one of these years, and since I'm not hurting for
the space.....
unlunf
--- In , LBOP Dot Net <jville.geo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, I know what you're saying unlunf... It's a matter
> of my expectations not being met by reality. What I
> really want is the whole amp sound being piped out the
> jack...some modeling amp/POD-like devices call this
> the >speaker emulated output<. The VOX AD15VT has a
> >conventional< (as you described) line out. I've been
> spoiled by POD devices.
>
> The VOX Valvetronix design models the actual tube
> power amp stage of an amp (single ended Class A,
> push-pull AB, neg. feedback or no feedback, etc.)
> including the reactance of an output transformer. It
> really is impressive...guys have gigged with only the
> floor pedal version of this thing (Valvetronix box)
> feeding into the FOH mixer with great results. This is
> the "whole point" of the design that you don't get
> using the line out jack.
>
> As it is, I use a mic (of which I have no shortage of
> with my choice of the old standby SM57, Oktava MC-012
> or Shure KSM32 condenser mic...among others) on that
> sweet Weber speaker.
>
> ~ Jonathan
>
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