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Maple boards

dukesteele2001 - 01 Mar 2006 10:16:25

I've played for over forty years and in that time, I don't remember
ever seeing a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster with a maple board. Was it even
an option that no one boughtI? find it hard to believe that absolutely
no one ordered one from Fender, ever. Did I miss something or has
anyone seen one?

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obmosquito - 01 Mar 2006 12:19:39

They did make them in the early 70's.
Ugly though IMO.
Here's a Jaguar:
-Paul
--- In , "dukesteele2001" <GlassTattoo@...> wrote:
>
> I've played for over forty years and in that time, I don't remember
> ever seeing a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster with a maple board. Was it even
> an option that no one boughtI? find it hard to believe that absolutely
> no one ordered one from Fender, ever. Did I miss something or has
> anyone seen one?
>

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unlunf - 01 Mar 2006 13:42:38

Duke,
You've got almost as much time-in-grade as I do! <g>
No, I don't recall ever seeing a JM or Jag with a maple
fingerboard, either a one- or two-piece neck. Doesn't
mean it didn't happen, just that I've never seen one.
I did some googling around on this topic, and found
pretty much nothing that might point to the existance
of any such instruments, either factory-built or customized.
However, my search did turn up this little gem:
<>
Personally, I don't believe it, but then again, I've been
fooled before. <g>
unlunf
--- In , "dukesteele2001" <GlassTattoo@...> wrote:
>
> I've played for over forty years and in that time, I don't
> remember ever seeing a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster with a maple
> board. Was it even an option that no one boughtI? I find
> it hard to believe that absolutely no one ordered one from
> Fender, ever. Did I miss something or has anyone seen one?
>

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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 01 Mar 2006 13:44:39

On 3/1/06, dukesteele2001 <> wrote:
> I've played for over forty years and in that time, I don't remember
> ever seeing a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster with a maple board. Was it even
> an option that no one boughtI? find it hard to believe that absolutely
> no one ordered one from Fender, ever. Did I miss something or has
> anyone seen one?
Yes, during the CBS era there were maple fretboards with those black
plastic markers. Watch E-Bay for a while and you'll see them.
BN

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Jack Booth (lwoodyj) - 01 Mar 2006 21:03:43

--- In , "dukesteele2001"
<GlassTattoo@...> wrote:
>
> I've played for over forty years and in that time, I don't remember
> ever seeing a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster with a maple board. Was it even
> an option that no one boughtI? find it hard to believe that
absolutely
> no one ordered one from Fender, ever. Did I miss something or has
> anyone seen one?
About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville (TN)
fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a maple cap
board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think the
maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there was no
Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that had a
maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59, but
this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple boards were
most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype that had
a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-'59
models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real", though.
The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black anodized
guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple board
with a black anodized guard.
And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The ad
posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster is in
error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom color
guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG, and
other sources.
Woody

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Jacob Dobner (jacobdobner) - 02 Mar 2006 00:31:45

I've seen Jaguars with maple Mustang necks. Quite gorgeous.
--- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "dukesteele2001"
> <GlassTattoo@> wrote:
> >
> > I've played for over forty years and in that time, I don't remember
> > ever seeing a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster with a maple board. Was it even
> > an option that no one boughtI? find it hard to believe that
> absolutely
> > no one ordered one from Fender, ever. Did I miss something or has
> > anyone seen one?
>
>
> About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville (TN)
> fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a maple cap
> board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think the
> maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there was no
> Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that had a
> maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59, but
> this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple boards were
> most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
>
> I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype that had
> a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-'59
> models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real", though.
> The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black anodized
> guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple board
> with a black anodized guard.
>
> And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The ad
> posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster is in
> error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom color
> guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG, and
> other sources.
>
> Woody
>

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unlunf - 02 Mar 2006 05:01:33

Woody,
> And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The ad
> posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster is
> in error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
> color guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont,
> PPG, and other sources.
That's how I remembered it from back then, too. Of course, it
doesn't hurt that such historical figures as Forrest White and
researchers like Richard Smith, Tony Bacon, et al. have all
said the same thing. <g>
I contend that the Buffalo Brothers website is either "taking
artistic license" with the truth, or else they're quoting a
very old man who no longer remembers the truth as he lived it.
But that's neither here nor there, so I'll shut up now. <g>
unlunf

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Jack Booth (lwoodyj) - 02 Mar 2006 10:44:05

unluf,
I concur 100% with the contention you mentioned in your last
paragraph. I wanted to say what you said, but you worded it SO much
more diplomatically that I would have!
Woody
Woody,
> > And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The
ad
> > posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster
is
> > in error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the
custom
> > color guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont,
> > PPG, and other sources.
>
> That's how I remembered it from back then, too. Of course, it
> doesn't hurt that such historical figures as Forrest White and
> researchers like Richard Smith, Tony Bacon, et al. have all
> said the same thing. <g>
>
> I contend that the Buffalo Brothers website is either "taking
> artistic license" with the truth, or else they're quoting a
> very old man who no longer remembers the truth as he lived it.
> But that's neither here nor there, so I'll shut up now. <g>
>
>
> unlunf
>

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unlunf - 02 Mar 2006 13:59:50

Woody,
Old timers here on the Group will tell you that it was a
rare moment for me, using diplomacy like that. I promise
to not let it happen again. :-()
unlunf
--- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@...> wrote:
>
> unluf,
>
> I concur 100% with the contention you mentioned in your last
> paragraph. I wanted to say what you said, but you worded it
> SO much more diplomatically that I would have!
>
> Woody
>>
>> ......
>>
>> I contend that the Buffalo Brothers website is either "taking
>> artistic license" with the truth, or else they're quoting a
>> very old man who no longer remembers the truth as he lived it.
>> But that's neither here nor there, so I'll shut up now. <g>
>>
>> unlunf
>>
>

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Jerry Belgacom.Net (wipeoutboy63) - 02 Mar 2006 14:26:40

Hi all,
Well Maple fretboard's were an option on late 60ties, early seventies
Jaguar's (read special order)
There are some pictures of a "green" Jaguar with Maple fretboard and black
block inlay's on the "higher evolution of off-waist's" website. This is a
special order late 60ties ( think 68) order.
The Jazzmaster was originally developed with at least a "maple" fretboard in
mind. There was at least one Jazzmaster prototype with a Maple fretboard.
(there are existing pictures of this prototype) ,although it never seam to
have materialized beyond the prototype stage.
Even though, both the Jaguar and the Jazzmaster are "rare" with maple necks.
(factory stock)
Albatros of "theTri-tones" uses a nice customized maple neck Jazzmaster.
It's an Olympic white one with a mother of blue pearl pickguard and mother
of pearl blue dot inlay's on the fretboard . Neck does have an untypical
(non Fender headstock) and it's a nice tiger stripe maple neck. Very nice
guitar.
It does sound very different from a regular Jazzmaster.
-Jerry S.
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Jeff (bigtikidude) - 02 Mar 2006 17:22:20

I think it would look better if it only had dots instead of the
big black blocks. Of course I'm partial to Maple necks.
My Bass is Black body with a bright( sound wise and visual) maple
one piece neck.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "obmosquito" <obmosquito@...>
wrote:
>
> They did make them in the early 70's.
> Ugly though IMO.
> Here's a Jaguar:
>
> -Paul
>
> --- In , "dukesteele2001"
<GlassTattoo@> wrote:
> >
> > I've played for over forty years and in that time, I don't
remember
> > ever seeing a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster with a maple board. Was it
even
> > an option that no one boughtI? find it hard to believe that
absolutely
> > no one ordered one from Fender, ever. Did I miss something or
has
> > anyone seen one?
> >
>

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John McCorvey (eddiekatcher) - 02 Mar 2006 17:24:36

We know you won't let us down.......ed
unlunf <> wrote: Woody,
Old timers here on the Group will tell you that it was a
rare moment for me, using diplomacy like that. I promise
to not let it happen again. :-()
unlunf
--- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@...> wrote:
>
> unluf,
>
> I concur 100% with the contention you mentioned in your last
> paragraph. I wanted to say what you said, but you worded it
> SO much more diplomatically that I would have!
>
> Woody
>>
>> ......
>>
>> I contend that the Buffalo Brothers website is either "taking
>> artistic license" with the truth, or else they're quoting a
>> very old man who no longer remembers the truth as he lived it.
>> But that's neither here nor there, so I'll shut up now. <g>
>>
>> unlunf
>>
>
.
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Jeff (bigtikidude) - 02 Mar 2006 17:33:54

Call me stupid but what is a Cap Board?
I don't think I've ever heard that term on sg101.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@...>
wrote:
>
> About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville
(TN)
> fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a maple
cap
> board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think the
> maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there was
no
> Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that had a
> maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59,
but
> this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple boards
were
> most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
>
> I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype that
had
> a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-'59
> models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real",
though.
> The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black
anodized
> guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple
board
> with a black anodized guard.
>
> And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The ad
> posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster is
in
> error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
color
> guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG, and
> other sources.
>
> Woody
>

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bruce duncan (wetreverb) - 03 Mar 2006 00:08:11

Jeff,
Maybe the term is unfamiliar to you, but if you read the entire posting, it
becomes extremely obvious that what is meant, is "fingerboard". What else COULD
it be, with "black dot markers and matching headstock"??
Jeff <> wrote:
Call me stupid but what is a Cap Board?
I don't think I've ever heard that term on sg101.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@...>
wrote:
>
> About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville
(TN)
> fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a maple
cap
> board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think the
> maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there was
no
> Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that had a
> maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59,
but
> this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple boards
were
> most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
>
> I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype that
had
> a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-'59
> models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real",
though.
> The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black
anodized
> guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple
board
> with a black anodized guard.
>
> And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The ad
> posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster is
in
> error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
color
> guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG, and
> other sources.
>
> Woody
>
.
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Mel Waldorf (melwaldorf) - 03 Mar 2006 00:48:44

Specifically, a "Cap Board" is a fretboard where the fretboard is a separate
piece of wood than the neck. 50s Fender maple necks were made from one
piece of wood, with the frets directly in the neck wood. These necks have a
"skunk stripe" on the back, a darker piece of wood filling the route where
the truss rod is installed. When Fender switched to rosewood boards, the
fretboard was now a separate piece of wood (a cap) over a maple neck. These
necks don't have a skunk stripe since the truss rod is installed between the
two pieces of wood. When Fender re-introduced the maple fretboard necks in
the later 60s, they used the same production process as with the rosewood
fretboards, so the maple fretboard is a cap over the maple neck. I'm not
sure when Fender started making one piece necks again, probably when they
started the re-issue series in the early 80s.
----- Original Message -----
From: "bruce duncan" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Maple boards
>
> Jeff,
>
> Maybe the term is unfamiliar to you, but if you read the entire posting,
it becomes extremely obvious that what is meant, is "fingerboard". What
else COULD it be, with "black dot markers and matching headstock"??
>
> Jeff <> wrote:
> Call me stupid but what is a Cap Board?
> I don't think I've ever heard that term on sg101.
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
>
>
> --- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville
> (TN)
> > fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a maple
> cap
> > board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think the
> > maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there was
> no
> > Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that had a
> > maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59,
> but
> > this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple boards
> were
> > most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
> >
> > I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype that
> had
> > a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-'59
> > models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real",
> though.
> > The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black
> anodized
> > guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> > Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple
> board
> > with a black anodized guard.
> >
> > And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The ad
> > posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster is
> in
> > error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
> color
> > guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG, and
> > other sources.
> >
> > Woody
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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John McCorvey (eddiekatcher) - 03 Mar 2006 05:31:20

Fender most likely started using a two piece maple neck/fingerboard assembly in
an attempt to make them less likely to bow. A two piece glued wood neck is
more stiff and much less likely to bow or twist than a single piece of lumber.
On the other hand a quarter sawn plank is almost as stiff as the two piece
arrangement. However, quarter sawned lumber is pricey and somewhat difficult
to obtain in great quantity.........eddie k (the boat builder)
Mel Waldorf <> wrote: Specifically, a "Cap Board"
is a fretboard where the fretboard is a separate
piece of wood than the neck. 50s Fender maple necks were made from one
piece of wood, with the frets directly in the neck wood. These necks have a
"skunk stripe" on the back, a darker piece of wood filling the route where
the truss rod is installed. When Fender switched to rosewood boards, the
fretboard was now a separate piece of wood (a cap) over a maple neck. These
necks don't have a skunk stripe since the truss rod is installed between the
two pieces of wood. When Fender re-introduced the maple fretboard necks in
the later 60s, they used the same production process as with the rosewood
fretboards, so the maple fretboard is a cap over the maple neck. I'm not
sure when Fender started making one piece necks again, probably when they
started the re-issue series in the early 80s.
----- Original Message -----
From: "bruce duncan" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Maple boards
>
> Jeff,
>
> Maybe the term is unfamiliar to you, but if you read the entire posting,
it becomes extremely obvious that what is meant, is "fingerboard". What
else COULD it be, with "black dot markers and matching headstock"??
>
> Jeff <> wrote:
> Call me stupid but what is a Cap Board?
> I don't think I've ever heard that term on sg101.
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
>
>
> --- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville
> (TN)
> > fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a maple
> cap
> > board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think the
> > maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there was
> no
> > Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that had a
> > maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59,
> but
> > this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple boards
> were
> > most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
> >
> > I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype that
> had
> > a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-'59
> > models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real",
> though.
> > The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black
> anodized
> > guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> > Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple
> board
> > with a black anodized guard.
> >
> > And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The ad
> > posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster is
> in
> > error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
> color
> > guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG, and
> > other sources.
> >
> > Woody
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Jeff (bigtikidude) - 03 Mar 2006 16:09:17

That's what I figured after I read it again, but with the term
cap being used over and over, I thought maybe he meant a board to
mount capacitors on.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , bruce duncan <wetreverb@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Maybe the term is unfamiliar to you, but if you read the entire
posting, it becomes extremely obvious that what is meant,
is "fingerboard". What else COULD it be, with "black dot markers
and matching headstock"??
>
> Jeff <bigtikidude@...> wrote:
> Call me stupid but what is a Cap Board?
> I don't think I've ever heard that term on sg101.
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
>
>
> --- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@>
> wrote:
> >
> > About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville
> (TN)
> > fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a maple
> cap
> > board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think
the
> > maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there
was
> no
> > Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that had
a
> > maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59,
> but
> > this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple
boards
> were
> > most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
> >
> > I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype
that
> had
> > a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-
'59
> > models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real",
> though.
> > The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black
> anodized
> > guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> > Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple
> board
> > with a black anodized guard.
> >
> > And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color. The
ad
> > posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO) Jazzmaster
is
> in
> > error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
> color
> > guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG,
and
> > other sources.
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Jeff (bigtikidude) - 03 Mar 2006 16:15:25

Mel Thanks for the clarification.
Wouldn't a one piece neck be stronger( maybe even sound better)
than a neck with the finger board added on. For the Maple ones
that is.
I understand there is no way around it for a rosewood
fingerboard.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Mel Waldorf" <mwaldorf@...>
wrote:
>
> Specifically, a "Cap Board" is a fretboard where the fretboard is
a separate
> piece of wood than the neck. 50s Fender maple necks were made
from one
> piece of wood, with the frets directly in the neck wood. These
necks have a
> "skunk stripe" on the back, a darker piece of wood filling the
route where
> the truss rod is installed. When Fender switched to rosewood
boards, the
> fretboard was now a separate piece of wood (a cap) over a maple
neck. These
> necks don't have a skunk stripe since the truss rod is installed
between the
> two pieces of wood. When Fender re-introduced the maple fretboard
necks in
> the later 60s, they used the same production process as with the
rosewood
> fretboards, so the maple fretboard is a cap over the maple neck.
I'm not
> sure when Fender started making one piece necks again, probably
when they
> started the re-issue series in the early 80s.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bruce duncan" <wetreverb@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Maple boards
>
>
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Maybe the term is unfamiliar to you, but if you read the
entire posting,
> it becomes extremely obvious that what is meant,
is "fingerboard". What
> else COULD it be, with "black dot markers and matching headstock"??
> >
> > Jeff <bigtikidude@...> wrote:
> > Call me stupid but what is a Cap Board?
> > I don't think I've ever heard that term on sg101.
> > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville
> > (TN)
> > > fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a
maple
> > cap
> > > board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think
the
> > > maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there
was
> > no
> > > Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that
had a
> > > maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59,
> > but
> > > this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple
boards
> > were
> > > most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
> > >
> > > I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype
that
> > had
> > > a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-
'59
> > > models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real",
> > though.
> > > The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black
> > anodized
> > > guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> > > Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple
> > board
> > > with a black anodized guard.
> > >
> > > And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color.
The ad
> > > posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO)
Jazzmaster is
> > in
> > > error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
> > color
> > > guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG,
and
> > > other sources.
> > >
> > > Woody
> > >
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Gavin Ehringer (windanseabeachboy) - 03 Mar 2006 19:18:43

Jeff,
Actually, when you laminate wood, it becomes stronger. That's why skateboards
are
laminated - the single-piece construction of the 1970s resulted in really think,
heavy
boards. Laminating (at first three, then five, and eventually seven) layers
resulted in lighter
boards that were stronger. It makes sense - imagine the wood grains as being
fracture
lines. Overlap several layers, and the fracture lines are reinforced by
non-fracture lines.
Also, one lamination tends to pull against the other lamination, resisting
warping.
In guitar necks, the same applies. However, in all things tonal, there are those
who go
against the easy fix. Eric Johnson would argue that a quarter-sawn neck is
superior,
because the non-laminated neck has more natural resonance. That's why his guitar
features a non-laminated, single-piece quarter sawn neck. You pay for the
extravagence.
Gavin
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@...> wrote:
>
> Mel Thanks for the clarification.
> Wouldn't a one piece neck be stronger( maybe even sound better)
> than a neck with the finger board added on. For the Maple ones
> that is.
> I understand there is no way around it for a rosewood
> fingerboard.
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
>
> --- In , "Mel Waldorf" <mwaldorf@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Specifically, a "Cap Board" is a fretboard where the fretboard is
> a separate
> > piece of wood than the neck. 50s Fender maple necks were made
> from one
> > piece of wood, with the frets directly in the neck wood. These
> necks have a
> > "skunk stripe" on the back, a darker piece of wood filling the
> route where
> > the truss rod is installed. When Fender switched to rosewood
> boards, the
> > fretboard was now a separate piece of wood (a cap) over a maple
> neck. These
> > necks don't have a skunk stripe since the truss rod is installed
> between the
> > two pieces of wood. When Fender re-introduced the maple fretboard
> necks in
> > the later 60s, they used the same production process as with the
> rosewood
> > fretboards, so the maple fretboard is a cap over the maple neck.
> I'm not
> > sure when Fender started making one piece necks again, probably
> when they
> > started the re-issue series in the early 80s.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bruce duncan" <wetreverb@>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Maple boards
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Maybe the term is unfamiliar to you, but if you read the
> entire posting,
> > it becomes extremely obvious that what is meant,
> is "fingerboard". What
> > else COULD it be, with "black dot markers and matching headstock"??
> > >
> > > Jeff <bigtikidude@> wrote:
> > > Call me stupid but what is a Cap Board?
> > > I don't think I've ever heard that term on sg101.
> > > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "Jack Booth" <lwoodyj@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > About six or seven years ago at a guitar show at the Nashville
> > > (TN)
> > > > fairgrounds, I saw an Olympic White mid-60's Jaguar with a
> maple
> > > cap
> > > > board and black dot markers and a matching headstock. I think
> the
> > > > maple cap boards were a special order option. Remember, there
> was
> > > no
> > > > Custom Shop in those days. I used to have a '61 P-Bass that
> had a
> > > > maple cap board. Fender switched to rosewood boards in mid-'59,
> > > but
> > > > this was definitely a 1961 model. In the early 60's, Maple
> boards
> > > were
> > > > most commonly ordered optionally on Telecasters and Esquires.
> > > >
> > > > I've also seen photos of an alleged '57 Jazzmaster prototype
> that
> > > had
> > > > a gold anodized pickguard (as did the production '58 and early-
> '59
> > > > models) and a maple board. Not sure if this one was "real",
> > > though.
> > > > The '57 prototype in the Chinery Collection with the black
> > > anodized
> > > > guard had a rosewood fingerboard, but a 1997 NAMM Custom
> > > > Shop "Prototype Jazzmaster" I recently saw on eBay had a maple
> > > board
> > > > with a black anodized guard.
> > > >
> > > > And for the record, Fiesta Red is a 1956 Ford T-Bird color.
> The ad
> > > > posted for Mr. Fullerton's (grossly overpriced, IMO)
> Jazzmaster is
> > > in
> > > > error, as Leo used DuPont Duco automotive colors for the custom
> > > color
> > > > guitars. The paint codes are still available from DuPont, PPG,
> and
> > > > other sources.
> > > >
> > > > Woody
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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