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Here's some useful definitions from the Riptionary, a Dictionary of Surf Terms.
(And a few I
added). BTW, I have never heard a surfer under 50 use the word 'hodad'.
Barney
Someone who is less than skilled at surfing. Originally derived from the cartoon
character
Barney on The Flinstones because he was similar to a hodad. (Contemp. Bozo, Val,
Valley
Boy).
Betty
Female surfer, probably so-named after Barney's wife.
Brodad
Surfer or Hodad wanna-be surfer who overuses Bro or Brah.
Hodad
A beginner or non-surfer. One that has yet to master the art of surfing. Most
surfers are
hodad's to some degree.
Hodaddy
Someone who doesn't surf or is posing as a surfer to be part of a crew at the
beach. Much
like a poser, it's someone that surfers prefer not to associate with and tend to
avoid once
identified.
Kook
An unskilled surfer.
Land Shark
A poser, hodad, kook, someone who doesn't surf, but when asked insists they do.
Pro Bro
A competitive surfer, usually one with lots of corporate sponsors.
Sewer Surfer
A hodad or hodaddy who cruises around on Friday and Saturday nights with his
board on
top of his car to try to impress the chicks.
Taco Stand
Any place devoid of action; is boring, or loaded with kooks and hodads. Example:
"Let's
blow this Taco Stand."
Paul Johnson once clarified the term Hodad on Cowabunga, I believe.
A Hodad was not a surfer, but was instead the black leather jacket
wearing guy who was really into cars and rockabilly. They hung out at
the beach for the ladies but did not surf themselves.
Surfers vs Hodads....Mods vs Rockers...etc.
BN
Kooks, barneys, gremmies,and hodads!
dude...that's totally cracking me up!...pure sg101
membership levels...I can see it now in my imagination...
totally rad.
-dp
--- Gavin Ehringer <> wrote:
> Here's some useful definitions from the Riptionary, a
> Dictionary of Surf Terms. (And a few I
> added). BTW, I have never heard a surfer under 50 use the
> word 'hodad'.
>
> Barney
> Someone who is less than skilled at surfing. Originally
> derived from the cartoon character
> Barney on The Flinstones because he was similar to a
> hodad. (Contemp. Bozo, Val, Valley
> Boy).
>
> Betty
> Female surfer, probably so-named after Barney's wife.
>
> Brodad
> Surfer or Hodad wanna-be surfer who overuses Bro or Brah.
>
>
> Hodad
> A beginner or non-surfer. One that has yet to master the
> art of surfing. Most surfers are
> hodad's to some degree.
>
> Hodaddy
> Someone who doesn't surf or is posing as a surfer to be
> part of a crew at the beach. Much
> like a poser, it's someone that surfers prefer not to
> associate with and tend to avoid once
> identified.
>
> Kook
> An unskilled surfer.
>
> Land Shark
> A poser, hodad, kook, someone who doesn't surf, but when
> asked insists they do.
>
> Pro Bro
> A competitive surfer, usually one with lots of corporate
> sponsors.
>
> Sewer Surfer
> A hodad or hodaddy who cruises around on Friday and
> Saturday nights with his board on
> top of his car to try to impress the chicks.
>
> Taco Stand
> Any place devoid of action; is boring, or loaded with
> kooks and hodads. Example: "Let's
> blow this Taco Stand."
>
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Did the hodads play a shoreline gold stratocaster and
invent the reverberator and the JBL-speakered fender amp
too?
-dp
--- Brian Neal <> wrote:
> Paul Johnson once clarified the term Hodad on Cowabunga,
> I believe.
>
> A Hodad was not a surfer, but was instead the black
> leather jacket
> wearing guy who was really into cars and rockabilly. They
> hung out at
> the beach for the ladies but did not surf themselves.
>
> Surfers vs Hodads....Mods vs Rockers...etc.
>
> BN
>
>
> .
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> archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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okay, I won't stop laughing for a couple of hours...
--- In , DP <noetical1@...> wrote:
>
> Did the hodads play a shoreline gold stratocaster and
> invent the reverberator and the JBL-speakered fender amp
> too?
>
> -dp
>
>
>
> --- Brian Neal <bgneal@...> wrote:
>
> > Paul Johnson once clarified the term Hodad on Cowabunga,
> > I believe.
> >
> > A Hodad was not a surfer, but was instead the black
> > leather jacket
> > wearing guy who was really into cars and rockabilly. They
> > hung out at
> > the beach for the ladies but did not surf themselves.
> >
> > Surfers vs Hodads....Mods vs Rockers...etc.
> >
> > BN
> >
> >
> > .
> > Visit for
> > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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-having been surfing myself for 40 years now (gasp) and been involved
in the industry nearly that long, i can safely say the only term i've
ever used and really ever heard used out of all of these is KOOK. i've
heard betty used as in 'shred betty'...........does this me me a
homom?...........carol
-- In , DP <noetical1@...> wrote:
>
> Kooks, barneys, gremmies,and hodads!
>
> dude...that's totally cracking me up!...pure sg101
> membership levels...I can see it now in my imagination...
> totally rad.
>
> -dp
>
> --- Gavin Ehringer <gavinehringer@...> wrote:
>
> > Here's some useful definitions from the Riptionary, a
> > Dictionary of Surf Terms. (And a few I
> > added). BTW, I have never heard a surfer under 50 use the
> > word 'hodad'.
> >
> > Barney
> > Someone who is less than skilled at surfing. Originally
> > derived from the cartoon character
> > Barney on The Flinstones because he was similar to a
> > hodad. (Contemp. Bozo, Val, Valley
> > Boy).
> >
> > Betty
> > Female surfer, probably so-named after Barney's wife.
> >
> > Brodad
> > Surfer or Hodad wanna-be surfer who overuses Bro or Brah.
> >
> >
> > Hodad
> > A beginner or non-surfer. One that has yet to master the
> > art of surfing. Most surfers are
> > hodad's to some degree.
> >
> > Hodaddy
> > Someone who doesn't surf or is posing as a surfer to be
> > part of a crew at the beach. Much
> > like a poser, it's someone that surfers prefer not to
> > associate with and tend to avoid once
> > identified.
> >
> > Kook
> > An unskilled surfer.
> >
> > Land Shark
> > A poser, hodad, kook, someone who doesn't surf, but when
> > asked insists they do.
> >
> > Pro Bro
> > A competitive surfer, usually one with lots of corporate
> > sponsors.
> >
> > Sewer Surfer
> > A hodad or hodaddy who cruises around on Friday and
> > Saturday nights with his board on
> > top of his car to try to impress the chicks.
> >
> > Taco Stand
> > Any place devoid of action; is boring, or loaded with
> > kooks and hodads. Example: "Let's
> > blow this Taco Stand."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> > Visit for
> > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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I think, like all in-group youth idioms, surfer lingo changes with the season
and age of the
participants. I recall ''Betty,' and "Barney" and especially "Bozo" from the
1970s; "gremmie"
seems to have morphed into "grom," "val" was common, too, when I lived in
LaJolla circa
1978. "Kook" never seems to go out of fashion, tho.
But I never heard Hodad, Hodaddy, or Land Shark. "Poser" was common, and still
is today.
We used to call good things "tubular," another by-gone word.
I always loved surfer language, it is typically playful and goofy. But it feels
weird dipping
back into the 60s and dredging up the old terminology, like saying "Hepcat" or
"Daddio"
among jazz players.
However, if y'all want to be Barneys and use these words, I say, "rad, Hodad!"
Gavin
--- In , "mom_surfing" <intheeye@...> wrote:
>
> -having been surfing myself for 40 years now (gasp) and been involved
> in the industry nearly that long, i can safely say the only term i've
> ever used and really ever heard used out of all of these is KOOK. i've
> heard betty used as in 'shred betty'...........does this me me a
> homom?...........carol
>
> -- In , DP <noetical1@> wrote:
> >
> > Kooks, barneys, gremmies,and hodads!
> >
> > dude...that's totally cracking me up!...pure sg101
> > membership levels...I can see it now in my imagination...
> > totally rad.
> >
> > -dp
> >
> > --- Gavin Ehringer <gavinehringer@> wrote:
> >
> > > Here's some useful definitions from the Riptionary, a
> > > Dictionary of Surf Terms. (And a few I
> > > added). BTW, I have never heard a surfer under 50 use the
> > > word 'hodad'.
> > >
> > > Barney
> > > Someone who is less than skilled at surfing. Originally
> > > derived from the cartoon character
> > > Barney on The Flinstones because he was similar to a
> > > hodad. (Contemp. Bozo, Val, Valley
> > > Boy).
> > >
> > > Betty
> > > Female surfer, probably so-named after Barney's wife.
> > >
> > > Brodad
> > > Surfer or Hodad wanna-be surfer who overuses Bro or Brah.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hodad
> > > A beginner or non-surfer. One that has yet to master the
> > > art of surfing. Most surfers are
> > > hodad's to some degree.
> > >
> > > Hodaddy
> > > Someone who doesn't surf or is posing as a surfer to be
> > > part of a crew at the beach. Much
> > > like a poser, it's someone that surfers prefer not to
> > > associate with and tend to avoid once
> > > identified.
> > >
> > > Kook
> > > An unskilled surfer.
> > >
> > > Land Shark
> > > A poser, hodad, kook, someone who doesn't surf, but when
> > > asked insists they do.
> > >
> > > Pro Bro
> > > A competitive surfer, usually one with lots of corporate
> > > sponsors.
> > >
> > > Sewer Surfer
> > > A hodad or hodaddy who cruises around on Friday and
> > > Saturday nights with his board on
> > > top of his car to try to impress the chicks.
> > >
> > > Taco Stand
> > > Any place devoid of action; is boring, or loaded with
> > > kooks and hodads. Example: "Let's
> > > blow this Taco Stand."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > > Visit for
> > > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Brian,
Not saying you or Paul are wrong, but I thought a Hodad was
a wanna be surfer(lookalike) But a Car guy in a leather jacket
woule be a greaser????
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bgneal@...> wrote:
>
> Paul Johnson once clarified the term Hodad on Cowabunga, I believe.
>
> A Hodad was not a surfer, but was instead the black leather jacket
> wearing guy who was really into cars and rockabilly. They hung out at
> the beach for the ladies but did not surf themselves.
>
> Surfers vs Hodads....Mods vs Rockers...etc.
>
> BN
>
Makes me think of the song KUK by the Astronauts.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , DP <noetical1@...> wrote:
>
> Kooks, barneys, gremmies,and hodads!
>
> dude...that's totally cracking me up!...pure sg101
> membership levels...I can see it now in my imagination...
> totally rad.
>
> -dp
>
> --- Gavin Ehringer <gavinehringer@...> wrote:
>
> > Here's some useful definitions from the Riptionary, a
> > Dictionary of Surf Terms. (And a few I
> > added). BTW, I have never heard a surfer under 50 use the
> > word 'hodad'.
> >
> > Barney
> > Someone who is less than skilled at surfing. Originally
> > derived from the cartoon character
> > Barney on The Flinstones because he was similar to a
> > hodad. (Contemp. Bozo, Val, Valley
> > Boy).
> >
> > Betty
> > Female surfer, probably so-named after Barney's wife.
> >
> > Brodad
> > Surfer or Hodad wanna-be surfer who overuses Bro or Brah.
> >
> >
> > Hodad
> > A beginner or non-surfer. One that has yet to master the
> > art of surfing. Most surfers are
> > hodad's to some degree.
> >
> > Hodaddy
> > Someone who doesn't surf or is posing as a surfer to be
> > part of a crew at the beach. Much
> > like a poser, it's someone that surfers prefer not to
> > associate with and tend to avoid once
> > identified.
> >
> > Kook
> > An unskilled surfer.
> >
> > Land Shark
> > A poser, hodad, kook, someone who doesn't surf, but when
> > asked insists they do.
> >
> > Pro Bro
> > A competitive surfer, usually one with lots of corporate
> > sponsors.
> >
> > Sewer Surfer
> > A hodad or hodaddy who cruises around on Friday and
> > Saturday nights with his board on
> > top of his car to try to impress the chicks.
> >
> > Taco Stand
> > Any place devoid of action; is boring, or loaded with
> > kooks and hodads. Example: "Let's
> > blow this Taco Stand."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> > Visit for
> > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Hey you shouldn't talk bad about your self like that.
Unless you... well I won't go there...
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "mom_surfing" <intheeye@...>
wrote:
.....does this me me a homom?...........carol
>
> -- In , DP <noetical1@> wrote:
> >
> > Kooks, barneys, gremmies,and hodads!
> >
> > dude...that's totally cracking me up!...pure sg101
> > membership levels...I can see it now in my imagination...
> > totally rad.
> >
> > -dp
> >
> > --- Gavin Ehringer <gavinehringer@> wrote:
> >
> > > Here's some useful definitions from the Riptionary, a
> > > Dictionary of Surf Terms. (And a few I
> > > added). BTW, I have never heard a surfer under 50 use the
> > > word 'hodad'.
> > >
> > > Barney
> > > Someone who is less than skilled at surfing. Originally
> > > derived from the cartoon character
> > > Barney on The Flinstones because he was similar to a
> > > hodad. (Contemp. Bozo, Val, Valley
> > > Boy).
> > >
> > > Betty
> > > Female surfer, probably so-named after Barney's wife.
> > >
> > > Brodad
> > > Surfer or Hodad wanna-be surfer who overuses Bro or Brah.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hodad
> > > A beginner or non-surfer. One that has yet to master the
> > > art of surfing. Most surfers are
> > > hodad's to some degree.
> > >
> > > Hodaddy
> > > Someone who doesn't surf or is posing as a surfer to be
> > > part of a crew at the beach. Much
> > > like a poser, it's someone that surfers prefer not to
> > > associate with and tend to avoid once
> > > identified.
> > >
> > > Kook
> > > An unskilled surfer.
> > >
> > > Land Shark
> > > A poser, hodad, kook, someone who doesn't surf, but when
> > > asked insists they do.
> > >
> > > Pro Bro
> > > A competitive surfer, usually one with lots of corporate
> > > sponsors.
> > >
> > > Sewer Surfer
> > > A hodad or hodaddy who cruises around on Friday and
> > > Saturday nights with his board on
> > > top of his car to try to impress the chicks.
> > >
> > > Taco Stand
> > > Any place devoid of action; is boring, or loaded with
> > > kooks and hodads. Example: "Let's
> > > blow this Taco Stand."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > > Visit for
> > > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Carol,
I think the surfer's would call you "Betty's Mom." They respect mother hood, so
long as the
mom is cool. And any mom who has a Fender guitar and plays is, well, cool.
Gavin
> .....does this me me a homom?...........carol
> >
-in real life, i am betty's daughter, i do surf and i own a surf shop.
(plus i should own stock in fender) :) i've only achieved
'cool' status with my sons' 13 to 15 year old friends, but that's good
enough for me...........c
-- In , "Gavin Ehringer"
<gavinehringer@...> wrote:
>
> Carol,
> I think the surfer's would call you "Betty's Mom." They respect
mother hood, so long as the
> mom is cool. And any mom who has a Fender guitar and plays is, well,
cool.
>
> Gavin
>
> > .....does this me me a homom?...........carol
> > >
>
