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Ok, I was hoping you guys could give some advice and help me get
started with a surf sound. Here are my questions:
What's the "average" going price for a used re-issue Jazzmaster in
decent condition?
I have a MIJ Strat Copy. It was my first guitar, used when I bought
it. I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading, I'm just looking
to get closer to the surf sound for practicing covers for now. The
Mosrite will come later (I hope). The copy strat has seen better days.
The neck is slightly warped, the frets have lost most of the plating
and have some small flat spots here and there, no grooves in them
though. The input jack needs to be fixed, maybe even replaced. The
pups work but are fairly cheap. I was thinking of replacing just the
bridge pup and leaving the other two stock, having the bridge set up
and putting some 11 gauge flatwounds on. Do you think it would be
worth it, or just a waste of money considering the neck and frets
being worn? If I do upgrade, what bridge pickup should I get?
Ok, onto the Amp. I figured I would splurge "somewhat" on the amp to
start. I'd like to stay under $800 for the amp, at that price, which
do you feel is the best fender amp to get and why?
Thanks for any help,
Ace
Ok, I was hoping you guys could give some advice and help me get
started with a surf sound. Here are my questions:
What's the "average" going price for a used re-issue Jazzmaster in
decent condition?
MT: A U.S. '62 RI Jazzmaster just sold on Ebay for 899-. I don't see 'em get
lower than that very often.
I have a MIJ Strat Copy. It was my first guitar, used when I bought
it. I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading, I'm just looking
to get closer to the surf sound for practicing covers for now.
MT: Don't worry about replacing the Japanese Jazzmaster. They're excellent and a
new one would just be a diversion. Keep practicin'. Come up with some originals.
The
Mosrite will come later (I hope). The copy strat has seen better days.
The neck is slightly warped, the frets have lost most of the plating
and have some small flat spots here and there, no grooves in them
though. The input jack needs to be fixed, maybe even replaced. The
pups work but are fairly cheap. I was thinking of replacing just the
bridge pup and leaving the other two stock, having the bridge set up
and putting some 11 gauge flatwounds on. Do you think it would be
worth it, or just a waste of money considering the neck and frets
being worn? If I do upgrade, what bridge pickup should I get?
MT: It would be a waste to spend more money on the copy strat.
Ok, onto the Amp. I figured I would splurge "somewhat" on the amp to
start. I'd like to stay under $800 for the amp, at that price, which
do you feel is the best fender amp to get and why?
MT: You can probably find a good used Twin for 800 clams.
Thanks for any help,
Ace
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Marty sugggestions are great - just two added cents: think about what
you want to do with your new stuff, what your end goal is and what
your long time budget is.
as far as guitars are concerned, if you want to practice for a while
and then spend big time on a great guitar - the warpedneck stratcopy
might be suffiecient for now. If you want a middle-of the-line-
guitar to use for years and years from now because the one grant plus
aint ever gonna happen, you can choose between a jap jazzmaster, a
jap jag or a middle budget strat, whichever sound you prefer. (the
mexican classic '60 strat looks like a deal, JM and jag expertise is
all over ths list - not with me tho ;-)
with amps it's the same thing: if you plan to be in a band any time
soon it's a great option, loud enough, and it's got good enough
reverb (tho not THAT reverb...)... but if you want decent sound at
living room volume or for home recording, the amp is just way too
loud, and it just doesn't sound good with very low volumes. again, if
you want to practice for a year or so and then start a band, get a
very cheap amp for now and rather invest in good reverb, buy the big
amp later - if you want to have a small amp to use for a long time
with great sound, get a small tube amp like a champ. if you want to
start a band tomorrow and don't need an amp at home, get a big amp
now.
as an alternative to the twin option, you can go for a silverface
bassman and separate cab. - they both can be had relativly cheap. if
it doesnt have to look good, the crate powerblock might be an option
(search the archives for various opinions).
I found both DIY fender style cabs and cut-in-half 2x15 cabs can be
had for very little. of course, these don't have reverb like a twin
so you'd have to solve that problem too.
it's worth taking some time to consider what it actually is you want
and need.
WR
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wrote:
>
> Ok, I was hoping you guys could give some advice and help me get
> started with a surf sound. Here are my questions:
>
> What's the "average" going price for a used re-issue Jazzmaster in
> decent condition?
>
> MT: A U.S. '62 RI Jazzmaster just sold on Ebay for 899-. I don't
see 'em get lower than that very often.
>
>
> I have a MIJ Strat Copy. It was my first guitar, used when I bought
> it. I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading, I'm just looking
> to get closer to the surf sound for practicing covers for now.
>
> MT: Don't worry about replacing the Japanese Jazzmaster. They're
excellent and a new one would just be a diversion. Keep practicin'.
Come up with some originals.
>
>
> The
> Mosrite will come later (I hope). The copy strat has seen better
days.
> The neck is slightly warped, the frets have lost most of the plating
> and have some small flat spots here and there, no grooves in them
> though. The input jack needs to be fixed, maybe even replaced. The
> pups work but are fairly cheap. I was thinking of replacing just the
> bridge pup and leaving the other two stock, having the bridge set up
> and putting some 11 gauge flatwounds on. Do you think it would be
> worth it, or just a waste of money considering the neck and frets
> being worn? If I do upgrade, what bridge pickup should I get?
>
> MT: It would be a waste to spend more money on the copy strat.
>
> Ok, onto the Amp. I figured I would splurge "somewhat" on the amp to
> start. I'd like to stay under $800 for the amp, at that price, which
> do you feel is the best fender amp to get and why?
>
> MT: You can probably find a good used Twin for 800 clams.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Ace
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I have wasted a ton of money on aftermarket parts for
various doo-dads that I've fooled with through the
years and it's always money lost on something you
didn't want to keep that much in the first place. If
you plan on making do with the Strat copy for a while,
save your money.
eBay is a great place to find used US vintage reissue
Jazzmasters and Jags...I have seen some people score
these for SICK money on eBay, like upper $500's to low
$800's, which is good considering how much they cost
new (up to $1400 now). eBay, however, in my
experience, is absolutely worthless for finding used
Japanese reissue Jags and JM's. The reason is that
people are all over them and there are too many that
are willing to pay too much because they don't realize
that these guitars can still be purchased, brand new
and with alder bodies, from guitar retailers in Japan.
I regularly see Japanese Jags and JM's go for
$600-$700 (see how close that is to the price of a
used US reissue?) when you can order a brand new one
of your color choice (some with matching headstock and
block inlays) from Ishibashi or Guitar Japan for
less...around $690 last I checked, but exchange rates
change. Patience can score you a used USA reissue for
great money...probably not an MIJ for the money...if
you wanna go ahead and pop for a new guitar, order it
from Japan.
Strats...there are so many lower to mid market options
for Stratocasters it's ridiculous. In addition to
Japan there's the Classic Series (US American Vintage
parts assembled in Mexico), the Standard Series (still
good, just no vintage appointments). The guitar
buying world is kind to Strat buyers.
Unless you're looking for a 60's Classic Series in
Olympic White...like me...then the guitar buying world
hates you. I mean, c'mon, who discontinues WHITE?
FENDER!?
Richard
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"I'd like to stay under $800 for the amp, at that price,
which do you feel is the best fender amp to get and why?"
I am a Bassman fan. Nice fat tones and plenty of power.
For $800 you could find a real nice Bassman 50 head and
have some money left over to start saving for for a cool
speaker cab and any rehab you might want to do. You can
build your own cabinet from ebay parts, of search for a
real Fender Cabinet. Perhaps you'll find a head/cab combo
deal out there. The 1966-1969 Bassman Silverface amps still
aren't too expensive yet, and the Bassman black face amp
can be found at reasonable price.
I had a nice Showman back in the 1980s: I realy liked that
amp a lot too. Pure surf power. They are getting expensive
these days, though.
(You really need to get yourself a Fender Reverb Unit
though...that's where the surf lives. I am a fan of the
1990s Re-issue Fender Reverb Unit (about $300)...but, there
are those who swear by the sound of the original Vintage
Unit.)
As far as new gear goes, there are many choices: check out
the musician's friend (www.musiciansfriend.com) and see
what's out there for Fender, Traynor, Vox etc. Lot's of
choices. When you find something that fits your budget,
bounce your ideas around here on the list before you buy.
Chances are good that someone here has used (or uses)
whatever amp you might find.
good luck,
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Go used, and get more for your dough. Why not just get a vintage EKO, KAY, KENT,
Harmony Teisco, or Silvertone guitar? you can
get some cool ones for under 300 bucks, and nobody else will have one. (Remember
not ALL 60's surf combos had fender guitars.)
then take the money you saved and buy a reissuie out board reverb tank, change
them tubes to NOS RCA.
then buy a cool ass vintage reverbless fender amp 1968 silverface bassmens still
had the black face circutry. My brother
got one for 500 bucks and it even came with 15 inch jbls.
I have nothing fender except a reissuie outboard reverb tank. Why be a cookie
cutter of all the other surf folks with their
jap jazzmasters? As long as it has single coils and you have a fender
outboard reverb tank you'll still be able to nail 60's trad surf tones.
at a thrift store I bought a 60's Kent looking one pick up no name guitar. the
pick up was busted, so I bought a seamore duncan jazzmaster reissue pickup.
and slapped it on there. All together that guitar cost me 110 bucks and together
with the reverb tank and 68 bassmen i can nail the Astronaut's tone perfectly!
Paul Vandervort
Proud owner of a 1965 Silvertone twin 12
bject: Some More Questions...
Ok, I was hoping you guys could give some advice and help me get
started with a surf sound. Here are my questions:
What's the "average" going price for a used re-issue Jazzmaster in
decent condition?
I have a MIJ Strat Copy. It was my first guitar, used when I bought
it. I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading, I'm just looking
to get closer to the surf sound for practicing covers for now. The
Mosrite will come later (I hope). The copy strat has seen better days.
The neck is slightly warped, the frets have lost most of the plating
and have some small flat spots here and there, no grooves in them
though. The input jack needs to be fixed, maybe even replaced. The
pups work but are fairly cheap. I was thinking of replacing just the
bridge pup and leaving the other two stock, having the bridge set up
and putting some 11 gauge flatwounds on. Do you think it would be
worth it, or just a waste of money considering the neck and frets
being worn? If I do upgrade, what bridge pickup should I get?
Ok, onto the Amp. I figured I would splurge "somewhat" on the amp to
start. I'd like to stay under $800 for the amp, at that price, which
do you feel is the best fender amp to get and why?
Thanks for any help,
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Teiscos and Silvertones are great and probably what many of the 60¹s surf
bands used. Just be sure to play it first as there is a lot of variation in
quality. I have a 1965 Silvertone with the dolphin nose headstock and a
single lipstick pickup. It has an absolutely perfect neck and great
tone...no tremolo though. And I got it for free with the purchase of a 1957
Gibson Falcon amp!
Paul
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Paul Fritz
Guitarist
Kelp
Santa Barbara Surf Music
www.kelpsurfband.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 2/22/06 4:04 PM, Paul Vandervortwrote:
>
> Go used, and get more for your dough. Why not just get a vintage EKO, KAY,
> KENT, Harmony Teisco, or Silvertone guitar? you can
> get some cool ones for under 300 bucks, and nobody else will have one.
> (Remember not ALL 60's surf combos had fender guitars.)
> then take the money you saved and buy a reissuie out board reverb tank, change
> them tubes to NOS RCA.
> then buy a cool ass vintage reverbless fender amp 1968 silverface bassmens
> still had the black face circutry. My brother
> got one for 500 bucks and it even came with 15 inch jbls.
> I have nothing fender except a reissuie outboard reverb tank. Why be a cookie
> cutter of all the other surf folks with their
> jap jazzmasters? As long as it has single coils and you have a fender
> outboard reverb tank you'll still be able to nail 60's trad surf tones.
> at a thrift store I bought a 60's Kent looking one pick up no name guitar. the
> pick up was busted, so I bought a seamore duncan jazzmaster reissue pickup.
> and slapped it on there. All together that guitar cost me 110 bucks and
> together with the reverb tank and 68 bassmen i can nail the Astronaut's tone
> perfectly!
>
> Paul Vandervort
> Proud owner of a 1965 Silvertone twin 12
>
>
>
> bject: Some More Questions...
>
> Ok, I was hoping you guys could give some advice and help me get
> started with a surf sound. Here are my questions:
>
> What's the "average" going price for a used re-issue Jazzmaster in
> decent condition?
>
> I have a MIJ Strat Copy. It was my first guitar, used when I bought
> it. I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading, I'm just looking
> to get closer to the surf sound for practicing covers for now. The
> Mosrite will come later (I hope). The copy strat has seen better days.
> The neck is slightly warped, the frets have lost most of the plating
> and have some small flat spots here and there, no grooves in them
> though. The input jack needs to be fixed, maybe even replaced. The
> pups work but are fairly cheap. I was thinking of replacing just the
> bridge pup and leaving the other two stock, having the bridge set up
> and putting some 11 gauge flatwounds on. Do you think it would be
> worth it, or just a waste of money considering the neck and frets
> being worn? If I do upgrade, what bridge pickup should I get?
>
> Ok, onto the Amp. I figured I would splurge "somewhat" on the amp to
> start. I'd like to stay under $800 for the amp, at that price, which
> do you feel is the best fender amp to get and why?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
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paul:
I agree: the reverb unit and amp are much more immportant
for that "surf sound" then the guitar. Go Fender! for the
amplification all the way.
-dp
--- Paul Vandervort <> wrote:
>
> Go used, and get more for your dough. Why not just get a
> vintage EKO, KAY, KENT, Harmony Teisco, or Silvertone
> guitar? you can
> get some cool ones for under 300 bucks, and nobody else
> will have one. (Remember not ALL 60's surf combos had
> fender guitars.)
> then take the money you saved and buy a reissuie out
> board reverb tank, change them tubes to NOS RCA.
> then buy a cool ass vintage reverbless fender amp 1968
> silverface bassmens still had the black face circutry. My
> brother
> got one for 500 bucks and it even came with 15 inch jbls.
>
> I have nothing fender except a reissuie outboard reverb
> tank. Why be a cookie cutter of all the other surf folks
> with their
> jap jazzmasters? As long as it has single coils and you
> have a fender
> outboard reverb tank you'll still be able to nail 60's
> trad surf tones.
> at a thrift store I bought a 60's Kent looking one pick
> up no name guitar. the pick up was busted, so I bought a
> seamore duncan jazzmaster reissue pickup.
> and slapped it on there. All together that guitar cost me
> 110 bucks and together with the reverb tank and 68
> bassmen i can nail the Astronaut's tone perfectly!
>
> Paul Vandervort
> Proud owner of a 1965 Silvertone twin 12
>
>
>
> bject: Some More Questions...
>
> Ok, I was hoping you guys could give some advice and help
> me get
> started with a surf sound. Here are my questions:
>
> What's the "average" going price for a used re-issue
> Jazzmaster in
> decent condition?
>
> I have a MIJ Strat Copy. It was my first guitar, used
> when I bought
> it. I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading, I'm
> just looking
> to get closer to the surf sound for practicing covers for
> now. The
> Mosrite will come later (I hope). The copy strat has seen
> better days.
> The neck is slightly warped, the frets have lost most of
> the plating
> and have some small flat spots here and there, no grooves
> in them
> though. The input jack needs to be fixed, maybe even
> replaced. The
> pups work but are fairly cheap. I was thinking of
> replacing just the
> bridge pup and leaving the other two stock, having the
> bridge set up
> and putting some 11 gauge flatwounds on. Do you think it
> would be
> worth it, or just a waste of money considering the neck
> and frets
> being worn? If I do upgrade, what bridge pickup should I
> get?
>
> Ok, onto the Amp. I figured I would splurge "somewhat" on
> the amp to
> start. I'd like to stay under $800 for the amp, at that
> price, which
> do you feel is the best fender amp to get and why?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
>
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DP <> wrote:
paul:
I agree: the reverb unit and amp are much more immportant
for that "surf sound" then the guitar. Go Fender! for the
amplification all the way.
-dp
--- Paul Vandervort <> wrote:
>
> Go used, and get more for your dough. (Remember not ALL 60's surf combos had
> fender guitars.)
> then take the money you saved and buy a reissuie out
> board reverb tank, change them tubes to NOS RCA.
> then buy a cool ass vintage reverbless fender amp 1968
> silverface bassmens still had the black face circutry. As long as it has
single coils and you
> have a fender
> outboard reverb tank you'll still be able to nail 60's
> trad surf tones.
"There's no such thing as too much reverb"
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Thanks to everyone who replied!
In response: Yeah, right now, I'm just looking to practice surf styles
for a while. But believe in making an investment in "professional"
equipment for the future. I see there are many options to choose. What
do you all think of the Fender Vibrolux Reverb? Maybe upgrading the
speakers to Jensen's in the future.
I've decided to at least fix the input jack, set up my copy strat with
new thomastic-infeld .11 gauge flatwounds, and see where it goes from
there. What's wrong with bringing the girl back into rotation?
I looked into (on the web anyway) the vintage guitars Paul described.
I'd never seen or heard of most of these brands, I knew of a couple.
This is surely a nice option and I now have the vintage bug, even for
the copy models. I'm sure I'll purchase a few of these in the future.
But, I just can't get the Mosrite's outta my head (the heart knows
what it wants), and am seriously considering a tossup between an
Eastwood Sidejack model, and the Excellent Mosrite's. Huge difference,
especially price, I know. And while I'm sure, the Eastwood would
suffice and be a nice addition, it's the Excellent that has the thin
neck and speed frets. From what I've read, the Eastwood has a more
standard neck/frets. I have small, thick hands and think the mosrite
neck could help. And the thing is just so damn beautiful.
If I decide to go for the Sidejack, I think I'll still want an
excellent, just to know how a Mosrite is supposed to feel. Thus, end
up spending more money for two guitars, which isn't bad really, but
the money ya know? It's hopeless...must resist..must...resist...must
save up for new guitar. :p
One thing, does anyone have specs on the length, width, and
depth/thickness of the necks on either the Excellent or the Eastwood
Sidejack? (It's a tall order I know).
Thanks much,
=Ace
Ace, just a quick opinion about Thomastiks. I bought a set recently
and found them to be quite soft and dull sounding. I found my playing
actually lost a little of it's intensity. I think they're designed more
for the jazz player in mind. I've yet to try pyramids, but so far I'm
most happy with the D'addario chromes, which are much cheaper to boot.
No matter what you buy, make sure to check out juststrings.com, an
excellent source for strings.
Danny Snyder
On Feb 25, 2006, at 1:02 AM, acehaze06 wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who replied!
>
> In response: Yeah, right now, I'm just looking to practice surf styles
> for a while. But believe in making an investment in "professional"
> equipment for the future. I see there are many options to choose. What
> do you all think of the Fender Vibrolux Reverb? Maybe upgrading the
> speakers to Jensen's in the future.
>
> I've decided to at least fix the input jack, set up my copy strat with
> new thomastic-infeld .11 gauge flatwounds, and see where it goes from
> there. What's wrong with bringing the girl back into rotation?
>
> I looked into (on the web anyway) the vintage guitars Paul described.
> I'd never seen or heard of most of these brands, I knew of a couple.
> This is surely a nice option and I now have the vintage bug, even for
> the copy models. I'm sure I'll purchase a few of these in the future.
> But, I just can't get the Mosrite's outta my head (the heart knows
> what it wants), and am seriously considering a tossup between an
> Eastwood Sidejack model, and the Excellent Mosrite's. Huge difference,
> especially price, I know. And while I'm sure, the Eastwood would
> suffice and be a nice addition, it's the Excellent that has the thin
> neck and speed frets. From what I've read, the Eastwood has a more
> standard neck/frets. I have small, thick hands and think the mosrite
> neck could help. And the thing is just so damn beautiful.
>
> If I decide to go for the Sidejack, I think I'll still want an
> excellent, just to know how a Mosrite is supposed to feel. Thus, end
> up spending more money for two guitars, which isn't bad really, but
> the money ya know? It's hopeless...must resist..must...resist...must
> save up for new guitar. :p
>
> One thing, does anyone have specs on the length, width, and
> depth/thickness of the necks on either the Excellent or the Eastwood
> Sidejack? (It's a tall order I know).
>
> Thanks much,
> =Ace
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Ace,
Fender Vibrolux's are great amps. You can't go wrong there.
In the future, an outboard reverb tank would help you get
the really deep, wet drip that is there in most surf instru-
mentals. The reverb in the Vibrolux is quite good, though.
I'm no expert on Mosrites or Mosrite copies. I'll leave that
to Marty, Bill Bergstrom and others. I think is is wise to fix
your current strat. A lot of guys buy the MIJ Strats, and do
the upgrades, ending up with a damn fine guitar at a fraction
of the price of the more expensive US models. Jazzmasters and
Jaguars are great surf guitars, but Strats are fine, too. Keep
in mind that a lot of the guys here who have gotten Jag amd JM
reissues ended up changing out the pickups.
There has never been a better time than now to get quality
gear inexpensively. There are a ton of good options available.
Good luck!
Bob S.
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> Thanks to everyone who replied!
>
> In response: Yeah, right now, I'm just looking to practice surf
styles
> for a while. But believe in making an investment in "professional"
> equipment for the future. I see there are many options to choose.
What
> do you all think of the Fender Vibrolux Reverb? Maybe upgrading the
> speakers to Jensen's in the future.
>
> I've decided to at least fix the input jack, set up my copy strat
with
> new thomastic-infeld .11 gauge flatwounds, and see where it goes
from
> there. What's wrong with bringing the girl back into rotation?
>
> I looked into (on the web anyway) the vintage guitars Paul
described.
> I'd never seen or heard of most of these brands, I knew of a couple.
> This is surely a nice option and I now have the vintage bug, even
for
> the copy models. I'm sure I'll purchase a few of these in the
future.
> But, I just can't get the Mosrite's outta my head (the heart knows
> what it wants), and am seriously considering a tossup between an
> Eastwood Sidejack model, and the Excellent Mosrite's. Huge
difference,
> especially price, I know. And while I'm sure, the Eastwood would
> suffice and be a nice addition, it's the Excellent that has the thin
> neck and speed frets. From what I've read, the Eastwood has a more
> standard neck/frets. I have small, thick hands and think the mosrite
> neck could help. And the thing is just so damn beautiful.
>
> If I decide to go for the Sidejack, I think I'll still want an
> excellent, just to know how a Mosrite is supposed to feel. Thus, end
> up spending more money for two guitars, which isn't bad really, but
> the money ya know? It's hopeless...must resist..must...resist...must
> save up for new guitar. :p
>
> One thing, does anyone have specs on the length, width, and
> depth/thickness of the necks on either the Excellent or the Eastwood
> Sidejack? (It's a tall order I know).
>
> Thanks much,
> =Ace
>
"just to know how a Mosrite is supposed to feel"
then, you gotta get your hands on an old real Mosrite,
then...or at least one of those "hand-made" by Semie
Moseley 1980s models.
i had a Mosrite of California 1970s bass, once...nothing
else like it.
go find an old mosrite in the music store and give it a
try. even though many of the modern clones and copies may
"play better", there is nothing like the feel and sound of
a real old mosrite. or a real olf fenred either.
good luck,
-dp
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hi ;i have a reissue fender vibroverb ,also orginal pinceton & a 66 traynor
,the fender amps cannot come near the traynor for reverb ,much deeper sound
fantastic overall amp at 1/2 the price of a fender . as for the guitars you
have to try them & see what you like .jazzmasters have a wide neck , for me
strats have controls too close to the strings .reissue mosrites are great
,higher frets but the sound is right on .once youget the right amp get whatever
guitar makes you happy . john
Bob Steingraber <> wrote: Ace,
Fender Vibrolux's are great amps. You can't go wrong there.
In the future, an outboard reverb tank would help you get
the really deep, wet drip that is there in most surf instru-
mentals. The reverb in the Vibrolux is quite good, though.
I'm no expert on Mosrites or Mosrite copies. I'll leave that
to Marty, Bill Bergstrom and others. I think is is wise to fix
your current strat. A lot of guys buy the MIJ Strats, and do
the upgrades, ending up with a damn fine guitar at a fraction
of the price of the more expensive US models. Jazzmasters and
Jaguars are great surf guitars, but Strats are fine, too. Keep
in mind that a lot of the guys here who have gotten Jag amd JM
reissues ended up changing out the pickups.
There has never been a better time than now to get quality
gear inexpensively. There are a ton of good options available.
Good luck!
Bob S.
--- In , "acehaze06" <acehaze06@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied!
>
> In response: Yeah, right now, I'm just looking to practice surf
styles
> for a while. But believe in making an investment in "professional"
> equipment for the future. I see there are many options to choose.
What
> do you all think of the Fender Vibrolux Reverb? Maybe upgrading the
> speakers to Jensen's in the future.
>
> I've decided to at least fix the input jack, set up my copy strat
with
> new thomastic-infeld .11 gauge flatwounds, and see where it goes
from
> there. What's wrong with bringing the girl back into rotation?
>
> I looked into (on the web anyway) the vintage guitars Paul
described.
> I'd never seen or heard of most of these brands, I knew of a couple.
> This is surely a nice option and I now have the vintage bug, even
for
> the copy models. I'm sure I'll purchase a few of these in the
future.
> But, I just can't get the Mosrite's outta my head (the heart knows
> what it wants), and am seriously considering a tossup between an
> Eastwood Sidejack model, and the Excellent Mosrite's. Huge
difference,
> especially price, I know. And while I'm sure, the Eastwood would
> suffice and be a nice addition, it's the Excellent that has the thin
> neck and speed frets. From what I've read, the Eastwood has a more
> standard neck/frets. I have small, thick hands and think the mosrite
> neck could help. And the thing is just so damn beautiful.
>
> If I decide to go for the Sidejack, I think I'll still want an
> excellent, just to know how a Mosrite is supposed to feel. Thus, end
> up spending more money for two guitars, which isn't bad really, but
> the money ya know? It's hopeless...must resist..must...resist...must
> save up for new guitar. :p
>
> One thing, does anyone have specs on the length, width, and
> depth/thickness of the necks on either the Excellent or the Eastwood
> Sidejack? (It's a tall order I know).
>
> Thanks much,
> =Ace
>
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Just last weekend I was talking to a gearhead who has an old Traynor
head - he said it's well known that they're basically the same circuit
as vintage Marshalls. If true, maybe not the best for surf....
A bass player for my Shadows cover band the Troubadours used to use a
Traynor head. Sounded good for bass, but not as good as Music Man
head that he used most of the time.
Ivan
--- In , John Squitti <jpsquitti@...>
wrote:
>
> hi ;i have a reissue fender vibroverb ,also orginal pinceton & a 66
traynor ,the fender amps cannot come near the traynor for reverb ,much
deeper sound fantastic overall amp at 1/2 the price of a fender . as
for the guitars you have to try them & see what you like .jazzmasters
have a wide neck , for me strats have controls too close to the
strings .reissue mosrites are great ,higher frets but the sound is
right on .once youget the right amp get whatever guitar makes you
happy . john
I have one of Semie's hand made '80's models as well as two '60's Ventures
models. I had a third but I much prefer the newer ones. The key difference on
the 80's model is that the neck profile (not just neck width) is very thin and a
lot of folks like that. As for sound and feel, I can't tell the difference in
the sound of my old vs new Mosrites. The feel is the same, old vs new, and its a
crappy feel if you have large hands. They all have too thin a width of neck, too
low on the frets. The action on the new ones is easier to adjust and get nice
and low.
-Marty
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From: DP
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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Some More Questions...
"just to know how a Mosrite is supposed to feel"
then, you gotta get your hands on an old real Mosrite,
then...or at least one of those "hand-made" by Semie
Moseley 1980s models.
i had a Mosrite of California 1970s bass, once...nothing
else like it.
go find an old mosrite in the music store and give it a
try. even though many of the modern clones and copies may
"play better", there is nothing like the feel and sound of
a real old mosrite. or a real olf fenred either.
good luck,
-dp
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