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Gang,
Having had a good nutritous breakfast this morning, I'd like to
bring this thought to you. Consider it a continuation of the
topic "Raising Surf Music to the status it deserves".
In the great majority of the country, there are fairs of all
descriptions going on throughout the summer and into the early
fall. They might be small, large, whatever, but the important
point is, they have booths for local, regional and national
vendors, right? So, what if someone were to set up a
merchandise counter for those companies like Double Crown
that feature Surf Music?
As I picture it, staffing could be done by volunteers, products
could be provided by these companies, and if done right, some
sales would come out of it, - hopefully with a profit. <g>
The real motive though, is to expose a large number of people
to Surf Music via the in-booth 'demonstration' setup. That
prospect alone makes me want to carry on with this idea.
I have ideas awaiting further development, and I _think_ I have
logical rebuttals to overcome most of the arguments against this,
but I need feedback on the basic idea before I start laying out
anything else. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
I think it is a great idea, Unlunf, especially at fairs
where surf bands are playing. The Pyronauts have done a
PHENOMINAL job of booking significant numbers of gigs at
various county fairs, town festivals, etc...
Hey, Paul:
If you're out there, maybe you could provide some input,
elaborating on the types of gigs you've landed, your
strategies for securing this gigs, etc.
Bob S.
--- In , "unlunf" <unlunf@...> wrote:
>
> Gang,
>
> Having had a good nutritous breakfast this morning, I'd like to
> bring this thought to you. Consider it a continuation of the
> topic "Raising Surf Music to the status it deserves".
>
> In the great majority of the country, there are fairs of all
> descriptions going on throughout the summer and into the early
> fall. They might be small, large, whatever, but the important
> point is, they have booths for local, regional and national
> vendors, right? So, what if someone were to set up a
> merchandise counter for those companies like Double Crown
> that feature Surf Music?
>
> As I picture it, staffing could be done by volunteers, products
> could be provided by these companies, and if done right, some
> sales would come out of it, - hopefully with a profit. <g>
> The real motive though, is to expose a large number of people
> to Surf Music via the in-booth 'demonstration' setup. That
> prospect alone makes me want to carry on with this idea.
>
> I have ideas awaiting further development, and I _think_ I have
> logical rebuttals to overcome most of the arguments against this,
> but I need feedback on the basic idea before I start laying out
> anything else. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
>
...I don't know your familiar with Jack fm(syndicated? or seattle based).
but they play a varied mix of music. Occaisionally they'll play a typically
"lame" song (milli vanilli, "barbie girl", etc...) then cut it short and say
"Nah, weren't not going to play that" and continue on with another song. A
couple weeks ago at work they played the intro to pipeline, and I thought to
myself "sweet, something other than the oldies station is playing surf
music." Nope they gave it their staple hook.
At least people are aware of it, even if it is "lame"
Eric
Surf in Seattle?
>From: "unlunf" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Just an idea........
>Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:08:38 -0000
>
>Gang,
>
>Having had a good nutritous breakfast this morning, I'd like to
>bring this thought to you. Consider it a continuation of the
>topic "Raising Surf Music to the status it deserves".
>
>In the great majority of the country, there are fairs of all
>descriptions going on throughout the summer and into the early
>fall. They might be small, large, whatever, but the important
>point is, they have booths for local, regional and national
>vendors, right? So, what if someone were to set up a
>merchandise counter for those companies like Double Crown
>that feature Surf Music?
>
>As I picture it, staffing could be done by volunteers, products
>could be provided by these companies, and if done right, some
>sales would come out of it, - hopefully with a profit. <g>
>The real motive though, is to expose a large number of people
>to Surf Music via the in-booth 'demonstration' setup. That
>prospect alone makes me want to carry on with this idea.
>
>I have ideas awaiting further development, and I _think_ I have
>logical rebuttals to overcome most of the arguments against this,
>but I need feedback on the basic idea before I start laying out
>anything else. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
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Eric,
Funny you should mention that. I don't know Jack FM (but
I do know his cousin, Jack Schitt!), but you probably know
about KNHC, right? Well, last night I heard a 'new' tune
from some joker that is basically laying lyrics over the
top of, get this, Miserlou!!! Fortunately for those of
us in the know, the mix keeps the vocals almost down to
the background level, and DD comes right out in your face.
KNHC is found on the net at <>
This is most definitely 'not' a surf music station, they
play what they call 'Seattle's Hottest Dance Music'. I
listen because it's ad free! And it probably helps that
I like more than 90% of the playlist. <g>
And of course, you are correct about one thing - there
ain't no such thing as bad exposure!
unlunf
--- In , "Eric Hutchinson" <surfinseattle@...>
wrote:
>
> ...I don't know your familiar with Jack fm(syndicated? or seattle
> based). But they play a varied mix of music. Occaisionally
> they'll play a typically "lame" song (milli vanilli, "barbie girl",
> etc...) then cut it short and say "Nah, weren't not going to play
> that" and continue on with another song. A couple weeks ago at
> work they played the intro to pipeline, and I thought to myself
> "sweet, something other than the oldies station is playing surf
> music." Nope they gave it their staple hook.
>
> At least people are aware of it, even if it is "lame"
>
> Eric
>
> Surf in Seattle?
>
I know that station well and learned to like it, it was all my friend
listened to while we painted houses years ago. After spending 10+ hours a
day 6 days a week listening to it, it grew on me.
That was probably the Black Eyed Peas version "pump it" They used it in
a best buy commercial awhile back. It came out as a single months ago but
they really haven't started playing until recently (ie radio/"M"tv).
eric
Surf in Seattle?
>From: "unlunf" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Just an idea........
>Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:05:07 -0000
>
>Eric,
>
>Funny you should mention that. I don't know Jack FM (but
>I do know his cousin, Jack Schitt!), but you probably know
>about KNHC, right? Well, last night I heard a 'new' tune
>from some joker that is basically laying lyrics over the
>top of, get this, Miserlou!!! Fortunately for those of
>us in the know, the mix keeps the vocals almost down to
>the background level, and DD comes right out in your face.
>
>KNHC is found on the net at <>
>This is most definitely 'not' a surf music station, they
>play what they call 'Seattle's Hottest Dance Music'. I
>listen because it's ad free! And it probably helps that
>I like more than 90% of the playlist. <g>
>
>And of course, you are correct about one thing - there
>ain't no such thing as bad exposure!
>
>
>unlunf
>
>--- In , "Eric Hutchinson" <surfinseattle@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > ...I don't know your familiar with Jack fm(syndicated? or seattle
> > based). But they play a varied mix of music. Occaisionally
> > they'll play a typically "lame" song (milli vanilli, "barbie girl",
> > etc...) then cut it short and say "Nah, weren't not going to play
> > that" and continue on with another song. A couple weeks ago at
> > work they played the intro to pipeline, and I thought to myself
> > "sweet, something other than the oldies station is playing surf
> > music." Nope they gave it their staple hook.
> >
> > At least people are aware of it, even if it is "lame"
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Surf in Seattle?
> >
>
>
>
>
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me like very much unlunf .... great idea.
I'd love to set something like that up in the netherlands, problem of
couse wold be hat no way do I have money to keep stock - and sending
back and forth from the US would be to much for the bands. not a clue
how that works either, "normaly". Maybe I could do it with Euro bands.
btw, I think that if you set up a booth with a sound system of some
sort and just spin surf tunes all day, you'll attract pleny people.
dress up the booth with palm plants, some tiki stuff and nice lighting,
and people are bound to check it out.
here's a tip: any of you familiar with eddie luca in te netherlands?
apart from his internet store, he also shows up at surf gigs and
festivals, maybe he also attends fairs, tattooshows, car shows and
stuff like that. he usually has a couple of hundreds of cd's with him,
all waves represented. very cool guy. if any of you is not in his
catalog, it my be worth shooting him a mail. I don 't know how he runs
his business, i.e. who pays for his inventory. he's a bit more
expensive then ordering straight form the US, but I buy from him on
occasion anyway, cause I like him and his business.
WR
oops, here's the link
--- In , "mono_tones_1" <rockverb@...>
wrote:
>
> me like very much unlunf .... great idea.
>
> I'd love to set something like that up in the netherlands, problem
of
> couse wold be hat no way do I have money to keep stock - and
sending
> back and forth from the US would be to much for the bands. not a
clue
> how that works either, "normaly". Maybe I could do it with Euro
bands.
>
> btw, I think that if you set up a booth with a sound system of some
> sort and just spin surf tunes all day, you'll attract pleny people.
> dress up the booth with palm plants, some tiki stuff and nice
lighting,
> and people are bound to check it out.
>
> here's a tip: any of you familiar with eddie luca in te
netherlands?
> apart from his internet store, he also shows up at surf gigs and
> festivals, maybe he also attends fairs, tattooshows, car shows and
> stuff like that. he usually has a couple of hundreds of cd's with
him,
> all waves represented. very cool guy. if any of you is not in his
> catalog, it my be worth shooting him a mail. I don 't know how he
runs
> his business, i.e. who pays for his inventory. he's a bit more
> expensive then ordering straight form the US, but I buy from him on
> occasion anyway, cause I like him and his business.
>
> WR
>
Eric,
Jack FM is a new CBS radio idea.
it's all over the USA. I know for sure it's here in LA and also
in other major markets.
it's one of those guilty pleasures, they play alot of songs you
kinda like, but would never admit to your friends. hahaha.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
<surfinseattle@...> wrote:
>
> ...I don't know your familiar with Jack fm(syndicated? or seattle
based).
> but they play a varied mix of music. Occaisionally they'll play a
typically
> "lame" song (milli vanilli, "barbie girl", etc...) then cut it
short and say
> "Nah, weren't not going to play that" and continue on with another
song. A
> couple weeks ago at work they played the intro to pipeline, and I
thought to
> myself "sweet, something other than the oldies station is playing
surf
> music." Nope they gave it their staple hook.
> At least people are aware of it, even if it is "lame"
>
> Eric
>
> Surf in Seattle?
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "unlunf" <unlunf@...>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Just an idea........
> >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:08:38 -0000
> >
> >Gang,
> >
> >Having had a good nutritous breakfast this morning, I'd like to
> >bring this thought to you. Consider it a continuation of the
> >topic "Raising Surf Music to the status it deserves".
> >
> >In the great majority of the country, there are fairs of all
> >descriptions going on throughout the summer and into the early
> >fall. They might be small, large, whatever, but the important
> >point is, they have booths for local, regional and national
> >vendors, right? So, what if someone were to set up a
> >merchandise counter for those companies like Double Crown
> >that feature Surf Music?
> >
> >As I picture it, staffing could be done by volunteers, products
> >could be provided by these companies, and if done right, some
> >sales would come out of it, - hopefully with a profit. <g>
> >The real motive though, is to expose a large number of people
> >to Surf Music via the in-booth 'demonstration' setup. That
> >prospect alone makes me want to carry on with this idea.
> >
> >I have ideas awaiting further development, and I _think_ I have
> >logical rebuttals to overcome most of the arguments against this,
> >but I need feedback on the basic idea before I start laying out
> >anything else. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Wannes,
When I was last in Europe, it was nearly 35 years ago, as a
GI. Good times, I wouldn't trade them for all the world. <g>
Your point about the economics of shipping product is well
taken. Yes, it could be very costly to ship "pre-made" CD's
across the pond in either direction. I'd propose that some
one find a way to act as a central clearing house that can
authorize the local production of X number of copies for an
upcoming event. These local reproductions would have to meet
stringent criteria, and there may be some form of Bond required,
but I *think* that these are merely business issues, and they
shouldn't be insurmountable.
It may come to pass that there's really no one central focus
point (on each continent), there comes into existance a sort
of network of agreements between each vendor and some other
sub-vendor, but again, that's to be determined in the future.
What I was more interested in was setting up a network of
trustworthy volunteers that would take the responsibility of
securing a vendor's promise to provide product, arrange for
a display booth, schedule staffing for the booth, yadda, yadda,
you get the drift. I think a core group of volunteers who
didn't have to travel very far could still blanket a large
percentage of "county fairs", and they could act as regional
supervisors in getting more volunteers enthused about going
out in their own areas, and promoting Surf Music to the
masses.
Here in my area, we have a State Fair every year, and they have
nearly 2,000 booths/vendors. When you consider that almost nobody
attending such a fair will visit only a few select booths - they
want to see everything, you realize the potential exposure can
be enormous. (Over 1.3 million visitors to the State Fair last
year.) Even in a 'back corner', out of the main path, visitors
will still get around to you eventually. All you need is a set
of speakers playing the best music on the planet, a few cute
wahinis, and you've got instant sales! <lol> Hell, I can even
envision setting up a guitar or two, and inviting customers to
sit down and jam with you, the stereo, whatever.
OK, time to hear from the other side of the equation. Sean,
what do you think of this cornball idea?
unlunf
--- In , "mono_tones_1" <rockverb@...> wrote:
>
> me like very much unlunf .... great idea.
>
> I'd love to set something like that up in the netherlands,
> problem of couse wold be hat no way do I have money to keep
> stock - and sending back and forth from the US would be to
> much for the bands. Not a clue how that works either,
> "normally". Maybe I could do it with Euro bands.
>
> BTW, I think that if you set up a booth with a sound system of
> some sort and just spin surf tunes all day, you'll attract plenty
> people. Dress up the booth with palm plants, some tiki stuff and
> nice lighting, and people are bound to check it out.
>
> Here's a tip: any of you familiar with eddie luca in the
> netherlands? Apart from his internet store, he also shows up at
> surf gigs and festivals, maybe he also attends fairs, tattooshows,
> car shows and stuff like that. he usually has a couple of hundreds
> of cd's with him, all waves represented. very cool guy. if any of
> you is not in his catalog, it my be worth shooting him a mail. I
> don 't know how he runs his business, i.e. who pays for his
> inventory. He's a bit more expensive then ordering straight form
> the US, but I buy from him on occasion anyway, cause I like him
> and his business.
>
> WR
>
Jeff,
Thanks for that, I was wondering what the deuce Eric was on about.
<g> So I did the google thing, and came up with this about Jack.
Jack is really nothing more than a format (playlist) for a radio
station. The differentiation is that Jack calls for a playlist
of up to 1000 tunes (compared to the 'measly' 100 to 300 tunes
of most stations), and the genres can be mixed as all hell. It
purports to be edgy, and therefore more attractive to multiple
audiences. The only requirements (that I've found so far) are
that any song must be no more than 30 years old, and it must have
been a Top 40 hit at least somewhere in the country.
CBS was not the originator, according to <>.
In fact, the very first station to go to this format was CKLG-FM
in Vancouver, BC. There are also some upcoming competing formats
called Bob, Ed, Bill, etc.
But why am I repeating what you all can find for yourselves.
Google for the terms "jack fm" and radio, and read with glee. <lol>
Also, there's an interesting article on this format found at:
<>
unlunf
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@...> wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
> Jack FM is a new CBS radio idea. It's all over the USA.
> I know for sure it's here in LA and also in other major
> markets. It's one of those guilty pleasures, they play alot
> of songs you kinda like, but would never admit to your friends.
> hahaha.
>
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
> --- In , "Eric Hutchinson" wrote:
>>
>> ...I don't know your familiar with Jack fm(syndicated? or
>> seattle based). But they play a varied mix of music.
>>
>> Eric
>
