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--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferencnd@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> > 1. Dead Man Surfin' - Phantom Frank (MuSick)
> > (from Dead Man Surfin' - www.musickrecords.com)
>
> This is an amazing track. The guitars are so deep in
> tone and drip. thebackground vocals or samples are soo
> spooky/ethereal. I hope this CD comes out soon...
>
> ferenc
Kind of interesting, I was talking to another list member in a private
exchange, and he didn't like the use of samples on this track (other
than the opening scream). What is your guys take on samples?
Personally I think they are the modern equivalent of the 1st wave guys
inserting a bizarre laugh (e.g. Wipeout), song title (BIRD BATH), or
weird noise, in order to further make their instrumental song stand
out on the radio. That is, if they aren't overdone.
Man or Astro-Man?, obviously, had this down to a science.
BTW, I'm talking about samples of TV, movies, screams, etc...not the
sampling of other instruments like the (c)rappers do.
Thoughts?
BN
I thought the use of a sample here is perfect and
tasteful, but I have to admit a bit jarring on the
first listen. As I kept replaying the track 20 times
or so, I craved it more and more.
Ferenc
--- Brian Neal <> wrote:
> --- In , Ferenc
> Dobronyi <ferencnd@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > 1. Dead Man Surfin' - Phantom Frank (MuSick)
> > > (from Dead Man Surfin' -
> www.musickrecords.com)
> >
> > This is an amazing track. The guitars are so deep
> in
> > tone and drip. thebackground vocals or samples are
> soo
> > spooky/ethereal. I hope this CD comes out soon...
> >
> > ferenc
>
> Kind of interesting, I was talking to another list
> member in a private
> exchange, and he didn't like the use of samples on
> this track (other
> than the opening scream). What is your guys take on
> samples?
>
> Personally I think they are the modern equivalent of
> the 1st wave guys
> inserting a bizarre laugh (e.g. Wipeout), song title
> (BIRD BATH), or
> weird noise, in order to further make their
> instrumental song stand
> out on the radio. That is, if they aren't overdone.
>
> Man or Astro-Man?, obviously, had this down to a
> science.
>
> BTW, I'm talking about samples of TV, movies,
> screams, etc...not the
> sampling of other instruments like the (c)rappers
> do.
>
> Thoughts?
> BN
>
>
>
>
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Note that the "first wave guys" did not use samples for the most part.
What's heard in tunes like "Wipe Out," "Bird Bath," "Surfin' Bird," etc.,
were recorded in the studio at the time of the recording. They aren't
samples.
IMO, the use of samples from film and TV has been way overdone in recent
years (MoAM may have had it down to a science, but I think they used that
gimmick way too much). If you want to use a sample on a track, it should
be tasteful, not overdone, and not used just because "it sounds cool."
That said, there was one "sample" that was certainly (over)used to a great
extent in the late 50s and 60s. That's the sound of screeching tires and a
crash heard on "Transfusion" and so many hot-rod instrumentals from the
time period. These were actually sound effects rather than "samples,"
though. There was also "Bustin' Surfboards" in which the lapping waves
sound effect heard at the beginning was taken from a local radio station's
daily surf report (or whatever sound effects record the station was using).
By and large, though, first wave surf instrumentals didn't rely on sound
effects or samples nearly as much as bands tend to do today.
john blair
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--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferencnd@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> > 1. Dead Man Surfin' - Phantom Frank (MuSick)
> > (from Dead Man Surfin' - www.musickrecords.com)
>
> This is an amazing track. The guitars are so deep in
> tone and drip. thebackground vocals or samples are soo
> spooky/ethereal. I hope this CD comes out soon...
>
> ferenc
Kind of interesting, I was talking to another list member in a private
exchange, and he didn't like the use of samples on this track (other
than the opening scream). What is your guys take on samples?
Personally I think they are the modern equivalent of the 1st wave guys
inserting a bizarre laugh (e.g. Wipeout), song title (BIRD BATH), or
weird noise, in order to further make their instrumental song stand
out on the radio. That is, if they aren't overdone.
Man or Astro-Man?, obviously, had this down to a science.
BTW, I'm talking about samples of TV, movies, screams, etc...not the
sampling of other instruments like the (c)rappers do.
Thoughts?
BN
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--- In , john.blair@s... wrote:
>
>
> Note that the "first wave guys" did not use samples for the most part.
> What's heard in tunes like "Wipe Out," "Bird Bath," "Surfin' Bird,"
etc.,
> were recorded in the studio at the time of the recording. They aren't
> samples.
Sure...that's why I said "modern equivalent of"...
>
> IMO, the use of samples from film and TV has been way overdone in recent
> years (MoAM may have had it down to a science, but I think they used
that
> gimmick way too much). If you want to use a sample on a track, it
should
> be tasteful, not overdone, and not used just because "it sounds cool."
Actually, I tend to agree about MoAM....
Another modern example is from the Infrareds "Recorded on Microfilm".
This one song has a really cool opening sample (that I know TFJ
loves)...but then sections of the rest of the song is just pasted over
with what seems like some old movie dialogue about a trial...I never
got that...it's like they were trying to hide some mistakes or
something. It's very distracting.
A well placed and not overdone sample can really help set the mood
though. Satan's Pilgrims doing the old haunted house Halloween album
stuff is a good example, IMHO.
BN
I'd agree about MoAM, too, though they definitely aren't the only ones guilty of
overusing them. Gein & the Graverobbers have used a ton of horror movie clips at
the beginning of their songs, and it really doesn't add anything. (As opposed to
the long one at the beginning of SP's "Creature Feature"--that one does a
*great* job of setting you up for what's to come.)
Some of the ones on the Treblemakers' "Flippin' the Bird" don't really do
anything either. The songs are great without them, so in a sense, what's the
point? (Again, just my opinion.)
I'd rather hear an interesting use during a song rather than one at the
beginning--I think the sample in the middle of "The Evil Plans of Planet
Spectra" works extremely well.
-Warren
Brian Neal <> wrote:
Actually, I tend to agree about MoAM....
Another modern example is from the Infrareds "Recorded on Microfilm".
This one song has a really cool opening sample (that I know TFJ
loves)...but then sections of the rest of the song is just pasted over
with what seems like some old movie dialogue about a trial...I never
got that...it's like they were trying to hide some mistakes or
something. It's very distracting.
A well placed and not overdone sample can really help set the mood
though. Satan's Pilgrims doing the old haunted house Halloween album
stuff is a good example, IMHO.
BN
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Warren,
I have to disagree on one account of the Treblemakers.
I love the one where he goes "MMMMMM Burger"
BUt I'm always a sucker for a killer burger.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , Warren Binder
<captainspringfield@y...> wrote:
>
> Some of the ones on the Treblemakers' "Flippin' the Bird" don't
really do anything either. The songs are great without them, so in a
sense, what's the point? (Again, just my opinion.)
>
> -Warren
>
> Brian Neal <bgneal@g...> wrote:
> Actually, I tend to agree about MoAM....
>
> Another modern example is from the Infrareds "Recorded on
Microfilm".
> This one song has a really cool opening sample (that I know TFJ
> loves)...but then sections of the rest of the song is just pasted
over
> with what seems like some old movie dialogue about a trial...I never
> got that...it's like they were trying to hide some mistakes or
> something. It's very distracting.
>
> A well placed and not overdone sample can really help set the mood
> though. Satan's Pilgrims doing the old haunted house Halloween album
> stuff is a good example, IMHO.
>
> BN
>
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the ATOMIC MOSQUITOS did a lot of sound clip drop-ins to great effect
during their live set at OTTO's for the SURF-ROCK SHINDIG I just had
there; some of them were classic...even hilarious
love when the COFFIN DAGGERS project those amazing sci-fi B-movie
(really C and D Movie actually) videos as a backdrop...though that
slightly strays from this discussion
I've come across a lot of bands using actual movie dialogue on their
CDs too....as I'm sure others are aware
oh yeah, THE BOSCH use a lot of crazy sounjd-bites in their live
shows as well
I know the SHARKSKINS have the sounds of low-tide shore-line surf
playing in the background of their shows too
I think this is yet another display of the 'fun tongue-in-cheek' side
of surf music .... there seems to be a great sense of humor running
thru....even the names of many of the bands are a total goof
Unsteady Freddie
