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unlunf:
I am not Dave W. but...
I believe the idea behind hand cutting nuts is that every
guitar is slightly different and unique; therefore each
requires by-hand final setup. Each needs one or all of the
following adjustments: neck shims, truss rod, intonation
and a unique nut-cut. At least it seems that Fender does
that.
Every replacement nut I have ever seen is an UN-CUT BLANK
ready for a luthier's touch to shape and cut appropriate
string guides.
As for Chinese, Indonesian, Korean, Brazilian, Taiwanian or
any other mass produced budget guitar: I think you are
correct...they use machines to cut their cheap nuts. And it
shows.
-dp
--- unlunf <> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> You do know that this isn't personal, right? <g>
>
> The bottom line is this: a belief was propounded, and I
> responded
> with what I can show to be a definitive knowledge. You
> replied
> that I was full of it, that in fact you were doing
> exactly what
> I just said wasn't being done (any longer).
>
> Well, I've no argument with that, you seem to be keeping
> beans on
> the table and strings on your guitar, so who am I to call
> your
> livelyhood into question? Answer: no one. I'd be a fool
> to
> continue saying that you aren't doing what you are
> obviously doing.
> <g> For that reason, I'll grant you that *some*
> factories still
> use hand labor where they feel it best to do so,
> regardless of
> how I feel about it.
>
> However, even in retirement, I still can always use an
> influx of
> cash. <g> If you'd be so kind as to show my previous
> messages to
> those in your factory that might be of a mind to consider
> using
> machinery, then I'd appreciate it. (There'd even be a
> finder's fee
> in it for you, if a contract is consummated. <g>) And
> no, this
> won't put you out of a job. Prior experience in this
> exact
> situation tells me that the very best person to oversee
> the quality
> of the machine's work is the one whom it replaced. Fact.
> <lol>
>
>
> unlunf
>
> p.s. How do you, or how does Fender, make a group of nuts
> to be
> sold separately as spare parts? Please, don't shatter my
> illu-
> sions that you cut it in a jig of some sort. If you tell
> me that
> you mount it to a neck, string it up, cut away all the
> excess
> material, and then break it out of the neck and put it in
> a box,
> I'll be so depressed. And my doctor thinks I'm doing so
> well.
> <rotflmao>
>
>
> --- In , dave wronski
> <stickmandw@y...> wrote:
> >
> > If youre right, my arm, shoulder, and wrist should
> > stop hurting because I didnt actually file all those
> > thousands {thats right} guitar nuts, not to mention
> > the rediculously oversized five string bass nuts,
> > which are among my personal favorites.
> > The truth hurts....for reals, Man!
> > ~d
> >
>
>
>
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DP,
Google for 'guitar parts nut', and see what comes up. In
almost every case, you can purchase either slotted or blank
nuts. The Graphtech Trem-Nut I bought was slotted, and
correctly to boot. <g>
unlunf
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
>
> unlunf:
>
> I am not Dave W. but...
>
> I believe the idea behind hand cutting nuts is that every
> guitar is slightly different and unique; therefore each
> requires by-hand final setup. Each needs one or all of the
> following adjustments: neck shims, truss rod, intonation
> and a unique nut-cut. At least it seems that Fender does
> that.
>
> Every replacement nut I have ever seen is an UN-CUT BLANK
> ready for a luthier's touch to shape and cut appropriate
> string guides.
>
> As for Chinese, Indonesian, Korean, Brazilian, Taiwanian or
> any other mass produced budget guitar: I think you are
> correct...they use machines to cut their cheap nuts. And it
> shows.
> -dp
>
Hey DP,
unlunf is absolutely correct. One upgrade I do on most of my guitars, is to
install the Graph-Tech "Tusq" nut, which Warmoth and (if I'm not mistaken)
StewMac both sell on the Internet. These nuts come pre-slotted, so all one
needs do, after installing it in the nut slot, is to gently file with correct
guage nut files, until the string heights at the nut are optimal.
Nut intonation is a big issue with most commercially produced guitars. Earvana
makes an interesting pre-slotted nut that has adjustible "flying-deck" surfaces,
to allow near-perfect intonation at the nut. Even with totally dead-on saddle
intonation, an improperly intonated nut will make fretted notes on the lower 5-6
frets, sound like s--t.
unlunf <> wrote:
DP,
Google for 'guitar parts nut', and see what comes up. In
almost every case, you can purchase either slotted or blank
nuts. The Graphtech Trem-Nut I bought was slotted, and
correctly to boot. <g>
unlunf
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
>
> unlunf:
>
> I am not Dave W. but...
> Every replacement nut I have ever seen is an UN-CUT BLANK
> ready for a luthier's touch to shape and cut appropriate
> string guides.
"There's no such thing as too much reverb"
Bruce D
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--- In , bruce duncan <wetreverb@y...>
wrote:
... These nuts come pre-slotted, so all one needs do, after
installing it in the nut slot, is to gently file with correct guage
nut files, until the string heights at the nut are optimal. ...
>
see, that's where confusion starts - maybe it's semantics, but I
don't call those things "slots" or even "pre-slots" ... I call
them "indication-for-where-you-are-going-to-have-to-file-a-slot-
markers".
sorry, lame humor, I know. the point is, yes, there are sorta slots
in those pre-shaped nuts, but every time I installed one (admittedly,
five times in my life or so, not a lot) they had to be filed to
specs. but it's neat you don't have to measure where the slots need
to be.
I understood though from one of unlunf's posts, that he actually
installed one that was dead on right hight. that's great, perhaps
sometimes it really does work.
guess it depends on the particular neck and the desired height.
Incidently, one of the reasons i don't like zero frets is cause i
like my action a bit higher in zero position. (oops, wrong thread)
WR
