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I know I said I'd stop now, but I have to mention two more songs that
really pushed us into the monter groove. "Heartbeat" by the Avengers
VI-(we played it live quite a bit, but somehow never recorded it. The
Ghastlys did a great cover, though.) anf "High Wall" (not surf) by the
Fabulous Wailers-scariness we can all aspire to.
Now I'm done.
TP
--- In , "spskins" <superchimp9@h...>
wrote:
> I have to mention two more songs that
> really pushed us into the monter groove. "Heartbeat" by the Avengers
> VI-(we played it live quite a bit, but somehow never recorded it. The
> Ghastlys did a great cover, though.)
Ted...I really dig Heartbeat, I first came across it on that Diggin'
Out comp I think. They have also somewhat recently reissued the
Avengers VI album on CD. I have also heard the Ghastly's cover, and it
is great, but I would definitely like to hear SP's version with 3
guitars!!
I am curious why you say it "pushed you into the monster groove"?
There are no obvious spooky sound effects on the Avengers VI
recording, no words, and Heartbeat is a pretty neutral title. Was it
just the groove of the song? Now that I think about it, Frankenstomp
has a similiar vibe. Was Frankenstomp inspired by Heartbeat?
Thanks!
BN
Ted,
High Wall as a horror genre tune???? Gasp, say it isn't so!
Nope, I wouldn't characterize it as such. I saw The Wailers
several times, and they did this without any schtick that I could
perceive. It was slow, rhythmic, bluesy (as were several other
of their tunes), and featured the sax. They played it regularly
as part of a set list, but often towards the end of the evening,
when the dancers wanted to shine their belt buckles. <g>
Now the tune Werewolf however, that might qualify! <lol>
(Try near the bottom.)
unlunf
--- In , "spskins" <superchimp9@h...> wrote:
>
> PS
> I know I said I'd stop now, but I have to mention two more songs that
> really pushed us into the monter groove. "Heartbeat" by the Avengers
> VI-(we played it live quite a bit, but somehow never recorded it. The
> Ghastlys did a great cover, though.) anf "High Wall" (not surf) by the
> Fabulous Wailers-scariness we can all aspire to.
>
> Now I'm done.
> TP
>
--- "Brian Neal" <bgneal@g...> wrote:
>
> I am curious why you say it "pushed you into the monster groove"?
> There are no obvious spooky sound effects on the Avengers VI
> recording, no words, and Heartbeat is a pretty neutral title. Was
> it just the groove of the song?
--- "unlunf" <unlunf@y...> wrote:
> High Wall as a horror genre tune???? Gasp, say it isn't so!
> Nope, I wouldn't characterize it as such. I saw The Wailers
> several times, and they did this without any schtick that I could
> perceive.
Brian and unlunf, I don't mean to be answering Ted's questions for
him, but I guess I will! I think Ted was saying that those two
songs, though not explicitly 'horror' have such a sinister vibe to
them that they were also inspirational for the Pilgrims in the whole
horror/monster thing. And I do agree they are both supremely spooky!
Ivan
>
> Ted...I really dig Heartbeat, I first came across it on that Diggin'
> Out comp I think. They have also somewhat recently reissued the
> Avengers VI album on CD. I have also heard the Ghastly's cover, and it
> is great, but I would definitely like to hear SP's version with 3
> guitars!!
>
> I am curious why you say it "pushed you into the monster groove"?
> There are no obvious spooky sound effects on the Avengers VI
> recording, no words, and Heartbeat is a pretty neutral title. Was it
> just the groove of the song?
The groove and the chord progression.
Now that I think about it, Frankenstomp
> has a similiar vibe. Was Frankenstomp inspired by Heartbeat?
>
Uh, now that you mention it, yes! Subconsciously.
> Thanks!
> BN
>
--- In , "unlunf" <unlunf@y...> wrote:
>
> Ted,
>
> High Wall as a horror genre tune???? Gasp, say it isn't so!
>
I didn't. Being a "horror genre tune" (which from your post, entails
"schtick") is different from a song's chord progression, groove,
all-around coolness, and in the listener's opinion "scariness" through
the use of tension and drama influencing a developing band's sound.
> Nope, I wouldn't characterize it as such. I saw The Wailers
> several times, and they did this without any schtick that I could
> perceive. It was slow, rhythmic, bluesy (as were several other
> of their tunes), and featured the sax. They played it regularly
> as part of a set list, but often towards the end of the evening,
> when the dancers wanted to shine their belt buckles. <g>
You were very lucky! We were able to play with them once in Portland
and it stands out as a great memory for me.
slow, rhythmic, bluesy
These are elements that we tried to incorporate into some of our songs
(Haunted House of Rock, for example) which "High Wall" influenced us
to write. Add some reverb crashes and sound effects and SpookOla! You
have it.
and featured the sax
If I had a nickel for all of the (especially 2nd and 3rd wave) covers
of instro/surf classics where the sax(sadly) has been replaced by a
guitar or keyboard, I'd have more than $5!
>
> Now the tune Werewolf however, that might qualify! <lol>
I was going to mention this one too! A great one!
> (Try near the bottom.)
>
>
> unlunf
>
> --- In , "spskins" <superchimp9@h...>
wrote:
> >
> > PS
> > I know I said I'd stop now, but I have to mention two more songs that
> > really pushed us into the monter groove. "Heartbeat" by the Avengers
> > VI-(we played it live quite a bit, but somehow never recorded it. The
> > Ghastlys did a great cover, though.) anf "High Wall" (not surf) by the
> > Fabulous Wailers-scariness we can all aspire to.
> >
> > Now I'm done.
> > TP
> >
>
Ivan,
I guess you'd have to define the word 'sinister'.
For me, a few bangs on a damped crash cymbal don't do it.
Reverb crashing was closer, but after Wipeout by the Ventures,
even that went mute for me. <g> And I really don't think that
naming a tune with something that's supposed to be macabre is
going to do the trick, either. (Picure Bobby 'Boris' Pickett
and his hit Halloween hit. <g>) If we're really gonna get
down and dirty with the scary stuff, there's nothing like a
theremin to get the job done!
Personally, I've never found SP to be anything but outrageously
good instrumental music, almost all of it easily identifiable as
surf music, and no further sub-division necessary. Them's my
two yen's worth. <g>
unlunf
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
>
> --- "Brian Neal" <bgneal@g...> wrote:
>>
>> I am curious why you say it "pushed you into the monster groove"?
>> There are no obvious spooky sound effects on the Avengers VI
>> recording, no words, and Heartbeat is a pretty neutral title. Was
>> it just the groove of the song?
>
> --- "unlunf" <unlunf@y...> wrote:
>
>> High Wall as a horror genre tune???? Gasp, say it isn't so!
>> Nope, I wouldn't characterize it as such. I saw The Wailers
>> several times, and they did this without any schtick that I could
>> perceive.
>
> Brian and unlunf, I don't mean to be answering Ted's questions for
> him, but I guess I will! I think Ted was saying that those two
> songs, though not explicitly 'horror' have such a sinister vibe to
> them that they were also inspirational for the Pilgrims in the
> whole horror/monster thing. And I do agree they are both supremely
> spooky!
>
> Ivan
>
Ted,
> Being a "horror genre tune" (which from your post,
> entails "schtick").....
'Schtick' is defined as a gimmick to attract attention to what
would otherwise be ordinary. The Wailers did nothing of that
sort when they played 'High Wall' live. I was perplexed by the
that, because I had first heard the tune with the damped crash
cymbal (my drummer buddy showed me that one right away). But
then again, I would be the last to claim that I saw them every
time they gigged. <g> For sure, they could have done that during
a performance, I'm just saying that I didn't see it, that's all.
> If I had a nickel for all of the (especially 2nd and 3rd wave)
> covers of instro/surf classics where the sax(sadly) has been
> replaced by a guitar or keyboard, I'd have more than $5!
Yes, there are times when nothing but a true sax will do. I pull
it off on the synth (a gr-33), and usually well enough, but anybody
who's been listening to records for more 10 minutes will be able to
tell the difference. Fortunately for me, most drunks can't remember
even 5 minutes worth of what any record should sound like!! <lol>
unlunf
