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Back in the 60's when that "other tube amp" started showing up (Marshall) we had
a similar problem, they were just too damn loud! What I did was to sometimes
turn the cabinet back toward the wall and or cover it with packing blankets to
reduce the volume......these two ideas are not mine, but both worked well....I
liked the back against the wall best when possible as it gave the amp awsome
spread.......eddie k
Ralph Senese <> wrote:Thanks for the compliment, that is if
you consider 42 to be young. I've been playing for over 25 years, I'm an old
man. Gerold Weber from Kendrick told me not to pull 2 tubes out, he said I would
damage the amp. When this amp is turned up to 6-8 it's incredible, but I will
blow the windows out of any club with this thing. I love this amp and I want to
use it but I can't. I wasn't very clear about the dirty pedal thing. I've used a
Marshall Guv-nor with the level cranked and the gain low to try and emulate the
sound of this thing at full volume but I'm not crazy about the tone. In my
younger days I had two full Marshall stacks, If you set this thing next to them
they'd melt. Way back in the day Lonnie Mack would let me borrow his Twin Reverb
to gig with and I got a great tone without being overbearingly loud and that was
100 watts. This is just the killer amp from hell! I'm going to get something
else, like a Twin Twelve or a bandmaster and
just keep this thing in case I ever play
Madison Square Garden.
Ralph
unlunf <> wrote:
Ralph,
> I want the natural sound of the amp without a dirty pedal.
What is the 'natural sound' of an amp? From your statement
above, I infer that your definition might well be:
"that sweet, singing, vocal-like sound you get when you
turn it all the way up - you know, where it sustains forever,
and sounds like a voice that's been drowned in whiskey and
cigarette smoke for the last 6 decades."
You reinforce that by saying don't want to use a dirty pedal,
yet your amp gets too loud while, presumably, remaining too clean.
Do I have that correct, so far?
First thing I'd do is pull one pair of those 6L6's, and let
the other pair drive their 3 speakers. Should cut your power
in half (each pair is putting out 50 watts into 3 speakers),
and therefore your overall volume level should also go down.
But tell me, my fine young friend, what Surf tune do you have
in mind that requires a dirty tone? I sure can't recall any
at the moment, but then again, I haven't yet had my daily dose
of Ginko Biloba.
unlunf
--- In , "octavianrnr" wrote:
>
> I have a 1965 sears silvertone 1485 100 watt 6x10, it is very, very
> loud. I've used this thing many times in blues clubs but it was too
> loud for power tube saturation so I had to keep the volume low and
> use a marshall guv-nor. I want the natural sound of the amp without
> a dirty pedal but again, it's just too darn loud. I can't use an
> attenuator because there are two transformers powering 3 speakers
> seperatly and running in stereo. I'm thinking of swapping out the
> 12ax7's for 5751's and replacing the solid state rectifier with a
> tube. Does anyone have any suggestions as to wich type of 6l6 would
> give me a quieter sound or any other ideas? Yeah I know, buy a
> smaller amp.
>
> Ralph
>
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---Thanks Eddie. Yes, I have heard these stories from the old timers
such as yourself, lol! I never thought to try it myself, I'll give
them a shot. Fantastic version of Bulldog by the Surge, great guitar
tone indeed!
Ralph
In , John McCorvey <eddiekatcher@y...>
wrote:
>
> Back in the 60's when that "other tube amp" started showing up
(Marshall) we had a similar problem, they were just too damn loud!
What I did was to sometimes turn the cabinet back toward the wall
and or cover it with packing blankets to reduce the
volume......these two ideas are not mine, but both worked well....I
liked the back against the wall best when possible as it gave the
amp awsome spread.......eddie k
>
> Ralph Senese <octavianrnr@y...> wrote:Thanks for the compliment,
that is if you consider 42 to be young. I've been playing for over
25 years, I'm an old man. Gerold Weber from Kendrick told me not to
pull 2 tubes out, he said I would damage the amp. When this amp is
turned up to 6-8 it's incredible, but I will blow the windows out of
any club with this thing. I love this amp and I want to use it but I
can't. I wasn't very clear about the dirty pedal thing. I've used a
Marshall Guv-nor with the level cranked and the gain low to try and
emulate the sound of this thing at full volume but I'm not crazy
about the tone. In my younger days I had two full Marshall stacks,
If you set this thing next to them they'd melt. Way back in the day
Lonnie Mack would let me borrow his Twin Reverb to gig with and I
got a great tone without being overbearingly loud and that was 100
watts. This is just the killer amp from hell! I'm going to get
something else, like a Twin Twelve or a bandmaster and
> just keep this thing in case I ever play
> Madison Square Garden.
>
> Ralph
>
> unlunf <unlunf@y...> wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> > I want the natural sound of the amp without a dirty pedal.
>
> What is the 'natural sound' of an amp? From your statement
> above, I infer that your definition might well be:
> "that sweet, singing, vocal-like sound you get when you
> turn it all the way up - you know, where it sustains forever,
> and sounds like a voice that's been drowned in whiskey and
> cigarette smoke for the last 6 decades."
>
> You reinforce that by saying don't want to use a dirty pedal,
> yet your amp gets too loud while, presumably, remaining too clean.
> Do I have that correct, so far?
>
> First thing I'd do is pull one pair of those 6L6's, and let
> the other pair drive their 3 speakers. Should cut your power
> in half (each pair is putting out 50 watts into 3 speakers),
> and therefore your overall volume level should also go down.
>
> But tell me, my fine young friend, what Surf tune do you have
> in mind that requires a dirty tone? I sure can't recall any
> at the moment, but then again, I haven't yet had my daily dose
> of Ginko Biloba.
>
>
> unlunf
>
> --- In , "octavianrnr" wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1965 sears silvertone 1485 100 watt 6x10, it is very,
very
> > loud. I've used this thing many times in blues clubs but it was
too
> > loud for power tube saturation so I had to keep the volume low
and
> > use a marshall guv-nor. I want the natural sound of the amp
without
> > a dirty pedal but again, it's just too darn loud. I can't use an
> > attenuator because there are two transformers powering 3 speakers
> > seperatly and running in stereo. I'm thinking of swapping out the
> > 12ax7's for 5751's and replacing the solid state rectifier with a
> > tube. Does anyone have any suggestions as to wich type of 6l6
would
> > give me a quieter sound or any other ideas? Yeah I know, buy a
> > smaller amp.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
>
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