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10 decibels short of a permanent case of Tinnitus...

surfinguitars - 08 Sep 2005 16:41:53

Has anyone ever used a sound meter to check their band's loudness?
What's the loudest one should play? Really though, when your ears are
ringing all night long and into the next day, that can't be a good
thing. Especially when it's rehearsal. Los Straitjackets never seem
too loud. How loud do they play? I think I'm 10 decibels short of a
permanent case of Tinnitus... mb

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supertwangreverb - 08 Sep 2005 18:34:42

Never checked the levels, but this is dangerous stuff. If you go look
at any pictures the Aquanauts you'll see these really ugly blue ear
plugs sticking out of our ears. These are the cheapest plugs, but
they still retain somewhat of the highs. Right when I was out of
Highschool I played in a rock band, and didn't use ear plugs one
night. My ears rang for 3 straight days...scared the shit out of me.
Bill
--- In , "surfinguitars" <mb@m...> wrote:
> Has anyone ever used a sound meter to check their band's loudness?
> What's the loudest one should play? Really though, when your ears
are
> ringing all night long and into the next day, that can't be a good
> thing. Especially when it's rehearsal. Los Straitjackets never seem
> too loud. How loud do they play? I think I'm 10 decibels short of a
> permanent case of Tinnitus... mb

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Jeff Riedle (stretchriedle) - 08 Sep 2005 22:37:08

Think about HOW IMPORTANT your hearing is to you.
Then save up $12.99 plus tax and buy yourself a pair of SONIC II earplugs.
They are sold at many music stores, and you can buy them online. They are
pale orange in color, made of rubber, with a metal baffle down the middle.
They will stay in your ear, even if you don't shove them way in. In fact, I
just put them far enough into my ears so that they stay put. If the music
gets REAL LOUD, then I'll shove them in farther. I like the SONIC II's
because they reduce the overall volume, but I can still hear highs, middles
and lows with clarity. Now understand, I've been playing drums for about 20
years, and yet my hearing is still excellent. Unless you drop one in a
crowd, they will last forever!
I don't recommend the real cheap foam type, because they aren't as
effective, and they also muffle the sound too much. I like to hear all
ranges of sound with clarity.
One last point...it took me about a month or so to get used to having them
in my ears. I'm glad I did.
Stretch
At 11:34 PM 9/8/05 -0000, you wrote:
>Never checked the levels, but this is dangerous stuff. If you go look
>at any pictures the Aquanauts you'll see these really ugly blue ear
>plugs sticking out of our ears. These are the cheapest plugs, but
>they still retain somewhat of the highs. Right when I was out of
>Highschool I played in a rock band, and didn't use ear plugs one
>night. My ears rang for 3 straight days...scared the shit out of me.
>
>Bill
>
>--- In , "surfinguitars" <mb@m...> wrote:
>> Has anyone ever used a sound meter to check their band's loudness?
>> What's the loudest one should play? Really though, when your ears
>are
>> ringing all night long and into the next day, that can't be a good
>> thing. Especially when it's rehearsal. Los Straitjackets never seem
>> too loud. How loud do they play? I think I'm 10 decibels short of a
>> permanent case of Tinnitus... mb

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DP (noetical1) - 09 Sep 2005 01:45:55

MB:
Loud music can cause tinnitus.
Just ask pete townshend.
The worst culprits in my life: 1. loud cymbals less than
one meter away from my earhole all night. 2.Loud practice
in that non-sound-proof warehouse/garage all the time. 3.
Nerve-deadening alchol intoxication all the time. 4.
HEADPHONES!
headphones are the worst culprit in my book.
wha'd'you say? I can't hear you too well,
-dp
--- surfinguitars <> wrote:
> Has anyone ever used a sound meter to check their band's
> loudness?
> What's the loudest one should play? Really though, when
> your ears are
> ringing all night long and into the next day, that can't
> be a good
> thing. Especially when it's rehearsal. Los Straitjackets
> never seem
> too loud. How loud do they play? I think I'm 10 decibels
> short of a
> permanent case of Tinnitus... mb
>
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DP (noetical1) - 09 Sep 2005 02:02:51

I have utilized a single SONICII in my good ear (left
ear)...always have used it in that ear for 20 years+
playing live.
my right ear (unprotected) is now shot...that's my "cymbal"
ear...if you know what I mean.
-dp
ps: SONICII are also used by target shooters
(rifles,shotguns, pistols)...they really work!
--- Jeff Riedle <> wrote:
> Think about HOW IMPORTANT your hearing is to you.
>
> Then save up $12.99 plus tax and buy yourself a pair of
> SONIC II earplugs.
> They are sold at many music stores, and you can buy them
> online. They are
> pale orange in color, made of rubber, with a metal baffle
> down the middle.
> They will stay in your ear, even if you don't shove them
> way in. In fact, I
> just put them far enough into my ears so that they stay
> put. If the music
> gets REAL LOUD, then I'll shove them in farther. I like
> the SONIC II's
> because they reduce the overall volume, but I can still
> hear highs, middles
> and lows with clarity. Now understand, I've been playing
> drums for about 20
> years, and yet my hearing is still excellent. Unless you
> drop one in a
> crowd, they will last forever!
>
> I don't recommend the real cheap foam type, because they
> aren't as
> effective, and they also muffle the sound too much. I
> like to hear all
> ranges of sound with clarity.
>
> One last point...it took me about a month or so to get
> used to having them
> in my ears. I'm glad I did.
>
> Stretch
>
>
> At 11:34 PM 9/8/05 -0000, you wrote:
> >Never checked the levels, but this is dangerous stuff.
> If you go look
> >at any pictures the Aquanauts you'll see these really
> ugly blue ear
> >plugs sticking out of our ears. These are the cheapest
> plugs, but
> >they still retain somewhat of the highs. Right when I
> was out of
> >Highschool I played in a rock band, and didn't use ear
> plugs one
> >night. My ears rang for 3 straight days...scared the
> shit out of me.
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >--- In , "surfinguitars"
> <mb@m...> wrote:
> >> Has anyone ever used a sound meter to check their
> band's loudness?
> >> What's the loudest one should play? Really though,
> when your ears
> >are
> >> ringing all night long and into the next day, that
> can't be a good
> >> thing. Especially when it's rehearsal. Los
> Straitjackets never seem
> >> too loud. How loud do they play? I think I'm 10
> decibels short of a
> >> permanent case of Tinnitus... mb
>
>
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Jacob Dobner (jacobdobner) - 09 Sep 2005 02:39:05

The biggest Townshend culprit was Keith Moon putting too much
explosive in his drum head and Pete's ear being right next to it. I
hear he couldn't hear for days. I love watching that performence on
the Kids are Alright DVD. You can see Moon running off with a huge
slice on his arm from the cymbals flying and hitting him.
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> MB:
>
> Loud music can cause tinnitus.
>
> Just ask pete townshend.
>
> The worst culprits in my life: 1. loud cymbals less than
> one meter away from my earhole all night. 2.Loud practice
> in that non-sound-proof warehouse/garage all the time. 3.
> Nerve-deadening alchol intoxication all the time. 4.
> HEADPHONES!
>
> headphones are the worst culprit in my book.
>
> wha'd'you say? I can't hear you too well,
> -dp
>
>
>
> --- surfinguitars <mb@m...> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone ever used a sound meter to check their band's
> > loudness?
> > What's the loudest one should play? Really though, when
> > your ears are
> > ringing all night long and into the next day, that can't
> > be a good
> > thing. Especially when it's rehearsal. Los Straitjackets
> > never seem
> > too loud. How loud do they play? I think I'm 10 decibels
> > short of a
> > permanent case of Tinnitus... mb
> >
> >
> >
> >
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surfinguitars - 09 Sep 2005 11:02:23

Cool - I'm going to check on those.
Here's another brand I found:
mb
--- In , Jeff Riedle <stretch@c...>
wrote:
> Think about HOW IMPORTANT your hearing is to you.
>
> Then save up $12.99 plus tax and buy yourself a pair of SONIC II
earplugs.
> They are sold at many music stores, and you can buy them online.
They are
> pale orange in color, made of rubber, with a metal baffle down the
middle.
> They will stay in your ear, even if you don't shove them way in. In
fact, I
> just put them far enough into my ears so that they stay put. If the
music
> gets REAL LOUD, then I'll shove them in farther. I like the SONIC
II's
> because they reduce the overall volume, but I can still hear highs,
middles
> and lows with clarity. Now understand, I've been playing drums for
about 20
> years, and yet my hearing is still excellent. Unless you drop one
in a
> crowd, they will last forever!
>
> I don't recommend the real cheap foam type, because they aren't as
> effective, and they also muffle the sound too much. I like to hear
all
> ranges of sound with clarity.
>
> One last point...it took me about a month or so to get used to
having them
> in my ears. I'm glad I did.
>
> Stretch
>
>
> At 11:34 PM 9/8/05 -0000, you wrote:
> >Never checked the levels, but this is dangerous stuff. If you go
look
> >at any pictures the Aquanauts you'll see these really ugly blue
ear
> >plugs sticking out of our ears. These are the cheapest plugs, but
> >they still retain somewhat of the highs. Right when I was out of
> >Highschool I played in a rock band, and didn't use ear plugs one
> >night. My ears rang for 3 straight days...scared the shit out of
me.
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >--- In , "surfinguitars" <mb@m...>
wrote:
> >> Has anyone ever used a sound meter to check their band's
loudness?
> >> What's the loudest one should play? Really though, when your
ears
> >are
> >> ringing all night long and into the next day, that can't be a
good
> >> thing. Especially when it's rehearsal. Los Straitjackets never
seem
> >> too loud. How loud do they play? I think I'm 10 decibels short
of a
> >> permanent case of Tinnitus... mb

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Jeff Riedle (stretchriedle) - 09 Sep 2005 11:15:56

There are several products out there to protect the ears. One of the earplug
systems that gets mentioned often involves going to a doctor in California
who custom fits them for you, but at a cost of $125+, plus the fact he's in
California, makes it difficult for most musicians.
I figured I'd mention the cheapest and easiest to locate way that has worked
for me for 20 years.
Stretch
At 04:02 PM 9/9/05 -0000, you wrote:
>Cool - I'm going to check on those.
>Here's another brand I found:
>
>mb
>
>--- In , Jeff Riedle <stretch@c...>
>wrote:
>> Think about HOW IMPORTANT your hearing is to you.
>>
>> Then save up $12.99 plus tax and buy yourself a pair of SONIC II
>earplugs.
>> They are sold at many music stores, and you can buy them online.
>They are
>> pale orange in color, made of rubber, with a metal baffle down the
>middle.
>> They will stay in your ear, even if you don't shove them way in. In
>fact, I
>> just put them far enough into my ears so that they stay put. If the
>music
>> gets REAL LOUD, then I'll shove them in farther. I like the SONIC
>II's
>> because they reduce the overall volume, but I can still hear highs,
>middles
>> and lows with clarity. Now understand, I've been playing drums for
>about 20
>> years, and yet my hearing is still excellent. Unless you drop one
>in a
>> crowd, they will last forever!
>>
>> I don't recommend the real cheap foam type, because they aren't as
>> effective, and they also muffle the sound too much. I like to hear
>all
>> ranges of sound with clarity.
>>
>> One last point...it took me about a month or so to get used to
>having them
>> in my ears. I'm glad I did.
>>
>> Stretch

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Monty Roach (mont7669) - 09 Sep 2005 11:25:15

Check out (www.earlove.net) Decent price and they work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Riedle" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: 10 decibels short of a permanent case of
Tinnitus...
> There are several products out there to protect the ears. One of the
> earplug
> systems that gets mentioned often involves going to a doctor in California
> who custom fits them for you, but at a cost of $125+, plus the fact he's
> in
> California, makes it difficult for most musicians.
> I figured I'd mention the cheapest and easiest to locate way that has
> worked
> for me for 20 years.
>
> Stretch
>
>
>
> At 04:02 PM 9/9/05 -0000, you wrote:
>>Cool - I'm going to check on those.
>>Here's another brand I found:
>>
>>mb
>>
>>--- In , Jeff Riedle <stretch@c...>
>>wrote:
>>> Think about HOW IMPORTANT your hearing is to you.
>>>
>>> Then save up $12.99 plus tax and buy yourself a pair of SONIC II
>>earplugs.
>>> They are sold at many music stores, and you can buy them online.
>>They are
>>> pale orange in color, made of rubber, with a metal baffle down the
>>middle.
>>> They will stay in your ear, even if you don't shove them way in. In
>>fact, I
>>> just put them far enough into my ears so that they stay put. If the
>>music
>>> gets REAL LOUD, then I'll shove them in farther. I like the SONIC
>>II's
>>> because they reduce the overall volume, but I can still hear highs,
>>middles
>>> and lows with clarity. Now understand, I've been playing drums for
>>about 20
>>> years, and yet my hearing is still excellent. Unless you drop one
>>in a
>>> crowd, they will last forever!
>>>
>>> I don't recommend the real cheap foam type, because they aren't as
>>> effective, and they also muffle the sound too much. I like to hear
>>all
>>> ranges of sound with clarity.
>>>
>>> One last point...it took me about a month or so to get used to
>>having them
>>> in my ears. I'm glad I did.
>>>
>>> Stretch
>
>
>
>
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> Visit for archived messages,
> bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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urbansurfkings - 09 Sep 2005 14:51:44

I use a set of -25db plugs. They were about $180CDN, and are molded
to my ear canal. I got them done at an audiologist. They're great,
as they really don't mess with the tone, just the volume. Most
hearing clinics should be able to point you in the right direction.
They're expensive, but given the alternative, I have absolutely no
problem paying for them.
Mike/USK

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