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Re: [SurfGuitar101] String Tension, was Re: Tone Control question, I give up......

John McCorvey (eddiekatcher) - 07 Sep 2005 14:22:23

I'm contemplating cold beer and BBQ at Sticks' house tonight....we might not be
the best surf band out there, but know how to have a good time.......eddie k
mono_tones_1 <> wrote:don 't know whether I 'm person #2 or
#3, but I love pointless
uneducated guesses about string tension.
from what I remember form physics classes, and just seems intuitivly
right, is that the string length behind bar as well as angle have
SOME influence, because IN THEORY the strings only vibrate between
nut and bridge, but in reality the two short parts vibrate as well,
effectivly functioning as 'knots' in the wave.
even if it doesn't affect frequency, it'll effect the amplitude of
the strings, which I think affects volume rather then pitch, but
might affect the feel the string-tension.
okay, enough yabba yabba - I'm of contemplating the frequency band
effects of d'Addario's lacquered ball ends vs. other brand's plain
brass ball ends.
WR
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> You should have resisted, Big T. Be carefull to what you agree! ;-)
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:09 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] String Tension, was Re: Tone Control
question
>
>
> Yeah what he said, below
> sorry couldn't resist :-)
>
> Jeff(bigtikidude)--- In , "Marty
> Tippens" <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > Actually, Brian, the wave analysis of vibrating guitar strings
is
> fairly well understood. When the displacement of the string is
> relatively small, as it is with vibrating musical instrument
strings,
> the partial differential equation can be approximated as "linear"
> which simplifies it greatly.
> >
> > I have trouble with the notion that the equation for Frequency
as a
> function of Length, Tension and Density should have an additional
> variable of anchoring distance or anchoring angle. Sustain and
> dampening are affected by those additional variables due to the
> different way pressure is put on the bridge. I'm not so sure that
> frequency would be affected. If it were, the variables of
anchoring
> distance and/or anchoring angle would be very negligible.
> >
> > -Marty
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Neal
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 7:16 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] String Tension, was Re: Tone Control
> question
> >
> >
> > --- In , John McCorvey
> > <eddiekatcher@y...> wrote:
> > > Boy Brian, I am impressed....one question, in the case
> > > of a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, or any other guitar where the
> > > strings pass over a bridge and are anchored behind as
> > > say the mentioned, doesn't this additional length add
> > > an additional variable to your equation.....
> >
> > Yeah I'm sure it does...but I have no idea how to
characterize
> that.
> > I am *really* on shaky physics ground now and had probably
just
> better
> > shut up. :-) You could probably say that the Jazzmaster would
> have a
> > longer *effective* string length compared to a Strat because
of
> the
> > string length behind the bridge, even though it doesn't
> contribute as
> > much because it is bent over the bridge. And maybe as a
result you
> > would get *slighly* lower string tension than a strat. But
again,
> I
> > should just shut up here...I can hear the ice cracking under
my
> feet...
> >
> > My physics professor in college was undertaking all kinds of
crazy
> > measurements of vibrating strings in musical instruments.
> Apparently
> > if you look really close, it's not a well understood
phenomenon.
> >
> > BN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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