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Can Rickenbacker do the job?

Dave Becker (novapup2001) - 31 Jul 2005 15:52:46

I was just curious. Are there any Surf/Instro bands that use a Ricky as
their primary Surf guitar? If there are, I'm stunned why I can't think
of them top-of-head. What's your setup like?
How about rhythm Ricky players?
Is staccato picking doable on a Rickenbacker? I suspect their
instruments are better for rhythm and finger-picking, eh?
Always interested,
BW Dave
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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 31 Jul 2005 16:02:56

--- In , "Dave Becker" <novapup@i...> wrote:
>
> How about rhythm Ricky players?
Spanky from the Penetrators.
BN

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supertwangreverb - 31 Jul 2005 17:46:14

I've got a 330 that I've put a Bigsby on. It's OK, but the string
spacing is really weird and the fretboard feels really thin compared
to my Jaguars.
Bill
www.reluctantaquanauts.com
--- In , "Dave Becker" <novapup@i...>
wrote:
> I was just curious. Are there any Surf/Instro bands that use a Ricky
as
> their primary Surf guitar? If there are, I'm stunned why I can't
think
> of them top-of-head. What's your setup like?
> How about rhythm Ricky players?
> Is staccato picking doable on a Rickenbacker? I suspect their
> instruments are better for rhythm and finger-picking, eh?
>
> Always interested,
> BW Dave
>
>
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Richard (errant_jedi) - 01 Aug 2005 08:51:56

I may be wrong about this but I believe I remember my
old Avengers VI LP (the one with the band standing on
top of an ice cream truck) had one of the guys playing
a Rick amongst a host of Fenders.
Richard
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carbon4logic - 01 Aug 2005 08:52:12

The Treble Spankers used a Ric 330 for rhythm. I used to have a 360 for
a couple of years, never really thought of it as a surf guitar. It
would be ok for rhythm, I guess, but I got rid of it. I do like the
sound of some Gretsch hollow bodies, however.
J
--- In , "Dave Becker" <novapup@i...>
wrote:
> I was just curious. Are there any Surf/Instro bands that use a Ricky
as
> their primary Surf guitar? If there are, I'm stunned why I can't think
> of them top-of-head. What's your setup like?
> How about rhythm Ricky players?
> Is staccato picking doable on a Rickenbacker? I suspect their
> instruments are better for rhythm and finger-picking, eh?
>
> Always interested,
> BW Dave
>
>
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mono_tones_1 - 01 Aug 2005 09:15:48

Marcel Kruup, rhythm guitaris for the Treble SPankers played a rick.
and I think the guitarist for the Hypnotic IV used to play one, but
later he played a DeArmond bluesbird copy.
WR
--- In , Richard <errant_jedi@y...>
wrote:
>
> I may be wrong about this but I believe I remember my
> old Avengers VI LP (the one with the band standing on
> top of an ice cream truck) had one of the guys playing
> a Rick amongst a host of Fenders.
>
> Richard
>
>
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Twangler (twangler23) - 01 Aug 2005 14:00:39

I absolutely love my Rickenbacker 360. Admittedly, it does have a few
limitations. I used to have a pre-amp pedal that was necessary for
songs that I might play lead or have a spot light riff in.
Now that I'm on lead guitar duty I'm pretty much on the Jag full time.
I can see a few songs played on the Rick. I also keep 10's or 11's on
it. I've been meaning to put a heavier gauge on there to see how it
works.
The construction of the Rick itself presents a few drawbacks. The
raised bridge makes it harder to double pick and what not but the
biggest problem is the neck is narrower than a fender so having those
strings closer together can increase the probability for flubs.
Finally, and most obviously, no whammy bar.
I had a Jazzmaster for a while which was my favorite standby. I could
get a similar full body tone without sounding shrill.
All the rhythm work on "Kings of the high-speed weekend" and "Locked
and Loaded" was done with the Rick except "Triple Dog Dare" which was a
Jazzmaster because I'm lead on most of that one and needed a whammy
bar.
If we ever pick up a 2nd guitar player, a Rick would have to be back in
the mix. Either me playing it or someone else. So that's my story,
Spanky
www.penetrators.com
On Jul 31, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Dave Becker wrote:
> I was just curious. Are there any Surf/Instro bands that use a Ricky as
> their primary Surf guitar? If there are, I'm stunned why I can't think
> of them top-of-head. What's your setup like?
> How about rhythm Ricky players?
> Is staccato picking doable on a Rickenbacker? I suspect their
> instruments are better for rhythm and finger-picking, eh?
>
> Always interested,
> BW Dave
>
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Dave Becker (novapup2001) - 01 Aug 2005 14:35:16

Audibly speaking, it has to be the Ricky that adds that distinguishing
characteristic to The Penetrators music. Nice!
bIG wAvE Dave
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>I absolutely love my Rickenbacker 360. Admittedly, it does have a few
>limitations. I used to have a pre-amp pedal that was necessary for
>songs that I might play lead or have a spot light riff in.
>
>Now that I'm on lead guitar duty I'm pretty much on the Jag full time.
>I can see a few songs played on the Rick. I also keep 10's or 11's on
>it. I've been meaning to put a heavier gauge on there to see how it
>works.
>
>The construction of the Rick itself presents a few drawbacks. The
>raised bridge makes it harder to double pick and what not but the
>biggest problem is the neck is narrower than a fender so having those
>strings closer together can increase the probability for flubs.
>Finally, and most obviously, no whammy bar.
>
>I had a Jazzmaster for a while which was my favorite standby. I could
>get a similar full body tone without sounding shrill.
>
>All the rhythm work on "Kings of the high-speed weekend" and "Locked
>and Loaded" was done with the Rick except "Triple Dog Dare" which was a
>Jazzmaster because I'm lead on most of that one and needed a whammy
>bar.
>
>If we ever pick up a 2nd guitar player, a Rick would have to be back in
>the mix. Either me playing it or someone else. So that's my story,
>Spanky
>
>www.penetrators.com
>
>
>On Jul 31, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Dave Becker wrote:
>
>> I was just curious. Are there any Surf/Instro bands that use a Ricky as
>> their primary Surf guitar? If there are, I'm stunned why I can't think
>> of them top-of-head. What's your setup like?
>> How about rhythm Ricky players?
>> Is staccato picking doable on a Rickenbacker? I suspect their
>> instruments are better for rhythm and finger-picking, eh?
>>
>> Always interested,
>> BW Dave
>>
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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 01 Aug 2005 18:51:51

--- In , Twangler <twangler@p...> wrote:
[...]
> The construction of the Rick itself presents a few drawbacks. The
> raised bridge makes it harder to double pick and what not but the
> biggest problem is the neck is narrower than a fender so having those
> strings closer together can increase the probability for flubs.
> Finally, and most obviously, no whammy bar.
Hey Spanky! Is the Rick's bridge any more higher than a
Jaguar/Jazzmaster? I've never played one. What is the scale length on
yours?
Thanks!
BN

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Twangler (twangler23) - 02 Aug 2005 00:41:46

The bridge is almost twice as high and the scale is a full 24 frets. A
little more than an inch longer than the Jag. I don't have my yard
stick available for exact measurements.
BTW, I recently acquired a book on Rickenbacker's history and they
credit Rickenbacker for creating the first electric guitar. I did not
know that.
Spanky
On Aug 1, 2005, at 6:51 PM, Brian Neal wrote:
> --- In , Twangler <twangler@p...> wrote:
> [...]
> > The construction of the Rick itself presents a few drawbacks. The
> > raised bridge makes it harder to double pick and what not but the
> > biggest problem is the neck is narrower than a fender so having
> those
> > strings closer together can increase the probability for flubs.
> > Finally, and most obviously, no whammy bar.
>
> Hey Spanky! Is the Rick's bridge any more higher than a
> Jaguar/Jazzmaster? I've never played one. What is the scale length on
> yours?
>
> Thanks!
> BN
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supertwangreverb - 02 Aug 2005 01:26:32

Spanky and BN,
The bridge on my Rickenbacker is no higher than those on my Jaguar.
Also the Rickenbacker IS NOT a little more than an inch longer than
the Jaguar. It's 3/4 of an inch longer.
You don't usually measure scale length by the # of frets either.
For example the Jaguar has more frets than the Jazzmaster, yet the
Jazzmaster is a longer scale than the Jaguar. Scale length is from
bridge to the nut.
Bill
www.reluctantaquanauts.com
--- In , Twangler <twangler@p...> wrote:
> The bridge is almost twice as high and the scale is a full 24
frets. A
> little more than an inch longer than the Jag. I don't have my yard
> stick available for exact measurements.
>
> BTW, I recently acquired a book on Rickenbacker's history and they
> credit Rickenbacker for creating the first electric guitar. I did
not
> know that.
>
> Spanky
>
> On Aug 1, 2005, at 6:51 PM, Brian Neal wrote:
>
> > --- In , Twangler <twangler@p...>
wrote:
> > [...]
> > > The construction of the Rick itself presents a few drawbacks.
The
> > > raised bridge makes it harder to double pick and what not but
the
> > > biggest problem is the neck is narrower than a fender so
having
> > those
> > > strings closer together can increase the probability for
flubs.
> > > Finally, and most obviously, no whammy bar.
> >
> > Hey Spanky! Is the Rick's bridge any more higher than a
> > Jaguar/Jazzmaster? I've never played one. What is the scale
length on
> > yours?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > BN
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Twangler (twangler23) - 02 Aug 2005 12:19:07

Of course this post prompted me to break out my tape measure as 'eye
balling' it at 1am has it's obvious limitations.
The scale indeed is 3/4 of an inch different. I have 25 on the Rick and
24 1/4 on the Jag. And yes, nut to bridge is what I was going by
originally. I just thought the number of frets might be of some
interest.
However, the way mine are set up, the Rick's bridge is 3/4 of an inch
high and the Jag is 1/2 inch. These of course can be adjusted to some
degree.
My guesstimations seem to be off by half, or 100% depending on your
perspective.
Spanky
On Aug 2, 2005, at 1:26 AM, supertwangreverb wrote:
> Spanky and BN,
> The bridge on my Rickenbacker is no higher than those on my Jaguar.
> Also the Rickenbacker IS NOT a little more than an inch longer than
> the Jaguar.  It's 3/4 of an inch longer.   
> You don't usually measure scale length by the # of frets either. 
> For example the Jaguar has more frets than the Jazzmaster, yet the
> Jazzmaster is a longer scale than the Jaguar.  Scale length is from
> bridge to the nut.
>
> Bill
> www.reluctantaquanauts.com
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supertwangreverb - 02 Aug 2005 12:29:58

Well Spanky I guess I was wrong about measuring from nut to bridge
then. The Jaguar should be 24 and the Rick should be 24 3/4.
Unless your measure is is off a quarter of an inch! :)
I think the height of the bridge depends on whether or not you have
a mute installed.
Bill
--- In , Twangler <twangler@p...> wrote:
> Of course this post prompted me to break out my tape measure
as 'eye
> balling' it at 1am has it's obvious limitations.
>
> The scale indeed is 3/4 of an inch different. I have 25 on the
Rick and
> 24 1/4 on the Jag. And yes, nut to bridge is what I was going by
> originally. I just thought the number of frets might be of some
> interest.
>
> However, the way mine are set up, the Rick's bridge is 3/4 of an
inch
> high and the Jag is 1/2 inch. These of course can be adjusted to
some
> degree.
>
> My guesstimations seem to be off by half, or 100% depending on
your
> perspective.
>
> Spanky
>
> On Aug 2, 2005, at 1:26 AM, supertwangreverb wrote:
>
> > Spanky and BN,
> > The bridge on my Rickenbacker is no higher than those on my
Jaguar.
> > Also the Rickenbacker IS NOT a little more than an inch longer
than
> > the Jaguar.  It's 3/4 of an inch longer.   
> > You don't usually measure scale length by the # of frets
either. 
> > For example the Jaguar has more frets than the Jazzmaster, yet
the
> > Jazzmaster is a longer scale than the Jaguar.  Scale length is
from
> > bridge to the nut.
> >
> > Bill
> > www.reluctantaquanauts.com
>
>
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DP (noetical1) - 02 Aug 2005 18:04:40

twangler wrote:
"BTW, I recently acquired a book on Rickenbacker's history
and they credit Rickenbacker for creating the first
electric
guitar. I did not know that."
I believe that the first Rickenbacker Electric was an
all-metal "hawaiian slide" type guitar called "the frying
pan"...it had a horseshoe magnetic pickup...also I believe
Leo Fender was in on the development of the first
Rickenbacker electric....see the "frying pan" here:
but, I have heard several contrary "tales" regarding the
invention of "the first electric guitars and basses" in the
late 1930s and early to mid 1940s (ie: ampeg, charlie
christian, t-bone walker, Oahu Hawaiian Steel etc etc)
check out Bud Tutmarc's tale of invention:
-dp
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