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I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on ebay... it is
really clean and has obviously been well treated. However, on
plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even with all the knobs
turned to 10. It is *just* there.
The unit was well packed but had obviously been thrown about by UPS:
the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and the tank had fallen
off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and I put it all back
together but obviously there's the possibility that something is out
of whack now.
What are the obvious things to check?
I should say that the guitar is coming through fine, but very dry...
On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:06 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
> I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on ebay... it is
> really clean and has obviously been well treated. However, on
> plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even with all the knobs
> turned to 10. It is *just* there.
>
> The unit was well packed but had obviously been thrown about by UPS:
> the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and the tank had fallen
> off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and I put it all back
> together but obviously there's the possibility that something is out
> of whack now.
>
> What are the obvious things to check?
>
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Did you release the spring dampening lever? (Metal Bar at the bottom
of the unit. Keeps springs from bouncing around when moving the
unit...)
On 7/29/05, John Brownlow <> wrote:
> I should say that the guitar is coming through fine, but very dry...
>
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:06 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
>
> > I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on ebay... it is
> > really clean and has obviously been well treated. However, on
> > plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even with all the knobs
> > turned to 10. It is *just* there.
> >
> > The unit was well packed but had obviously been thrown about by UPS:
> > the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and the tank had fallen
> > off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and I put it all back
> > together but obviously there's the possibility that something is out
> > of whack now.
> >
> > What are the obvious things to check?
> >
nope -- but I can't see it!
On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Zone Fighter wrote:
> Did you release the spring dampening lever? (Metal Bar at the bottom
> of the unit. Keeps springs from bouncing around when moving the
> unit...)
>
>
> On 7/29/05, John Brownlow <> wrote:
>
>> I should say that the guitar is coming through fine, but very dry...
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:06 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on ebay... it is
>>> really clean and has obviously been well treated. However, on
>>> plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even with all the knobs
>>> turned to 10. It is *just* there.
>>>
>>> The unit was well packed but had obviously been thrown about by UPS:
>>> the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and the tank had fallen
>>> off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and I put it all
>>> back
>>> together but obviously there's the possibility that something is out
>>> of whack now.
>>>
>>> What are the obvious things to check?
>>>
>>>
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The Spring Dampening Lever is a rather large somewhat
C-shaped metal slider mounted on the bottom (inside) of the
chasis (with two screws). It's job is to push the reverb
spring tank forward and hold the reverb spring tank
stationary during transport.
After transporting the reverb unit, the Spring Dampening
Lever should be slib back away from the reverb spring tank
(in other words, it should slide to the rear of the
chasis).
whew... this sounds confusing...
-dp
--- John Brownlow <> wrote:
> nope -- but I can't see it!
>
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Zone Fighter wrote:
>
> > Did you release the spring dampening lever? (Metal Bar
> at the bottom
> > of the unit. Keeps springs from bouncing around when
> moving the
> > unit...)
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/05, John Brownlow <>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I should say that the guitar is coming through fine,
> but very dry...
> >>
> >> On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:06 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on
> ebay... it is
> >>> really clean and has obviously been well treated.
> However, on
> >>> plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even
> with all the knobs
> >>> turned to 10. It is *just* there.
> >>>
> >>> The unit was well packed but had obviously been
> thrown about by UPS:
> >>> the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and the
> tank had fallen
> >>> off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and I
> put it all
> >>> back
> >>> together but obviously there's the possibility that
> something is out
> >>> of whack now.
> >>>
> >>> What are the obvious things to check?
> >>>
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In this picture
the lever is peeking out of the left hole towards the center.
On 7/29/05, DP <> wrote:
> The Spring Dampening Lever is a rather large somewhat
> C-shaped metal slider mounted on the bottom (inside) of the
> chasis (with two screws). It's job is to push the reverb
> spring tank forward and hold the reverb spring tank
> stationary during transport.
>
> After transporting the reverb unit, the Spring Dampening
> Lever should be slib back away from the reverb spring tank
> (in other words, it should slide to the rear of the
> chasis).
>
> whew... this sounds confusing...
> -dp
>
>
Better picture with back off....
It is the thing that looks like a Tongue!
On 7/29/05, Zone Fighter <> wrote:
> In this picture
>
> the lever is peeking out of the left hole towards the center.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/29/05, DP <> wrote:
> > The Spring Dampening Lever is a rather large somewhat
> > C-shaped metal slider mounted on the bottom (inside) of the
> > chasis (with two screws). It's job is to push the reverb
> > spring tank forward and hold the reverb spring tank
> > stationary during transport.
> >
> > After transporting the reverb unit, the Spring Dampening
> > Lever should be slib back away from the reverb spring tank
> > (in other words, it should slide to the rear of the
> > chasis).
> >
> > whew... this sounds confusing...
> > -dp
> >
> >
>
John:
when viewing your reverb unit from the rear of the
chasis...
The dampening lever is located on the lower left, just left
of the "center divider" on the pack chasis panel...
-dp
--- DP <> wrote:
> The Spring Dampening Lever is a rather large somewhat
> C-shaped metal slider mounted on the bottom (inside) of
> the
> chasis (with two screws). It's job is to push the reverb
> spring tank forward and hold the reverb spring tank
> stationary during transport.
>
> After transporting the reverb unit, the Spring Dampening
> Lever should be slib back away from the reverb spring
> tank
> (in other words, it should slide to the rear of the
> chasis).
>
> whew... this sounds confusing...
> -dp
>
> --- John Brownlow <> wrote:
>
> > nope -- but I can't see it!
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Zone Fighter wrote:
> >
> > > Did you release the spring dampening lever? (Metal
> Bar
> > at the bottom
> > > of the unit. Keeps springs from bouncing around when
> > moving the
> > > unit...)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/29/05, John Brownlow <>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I should say that the guitar is coming through
> fine,
> > but very dry...
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:06 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on
> > ebay... it is
> > >>> really clean and has obviously been well treated.
> > However, on
> > >>> plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even
> > with all the knobs
> > >>> turned to 10. It is *just* there.
> > >>>
> > >>> The unit was well packed but had obviously been
> > thrown about by UPS:
> > >>> the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and
> the
> > tank had fallen
> > >>> off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and
> I
> > put it all
> > >>> back
> > >>> together but obviously there's the possibility that
> > something is out
> > >>> of whack now.
> > >>>
> > >>> What are the obvious things to check?
> > >>>
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In this picture you can see the lever through the left back
chassis opening...
-dp
--- DP <> wrote:
> The Spring Dampening Lever is a rather large somewhat
> C-shaped metal slider mounted on the bottom (inside) of
> the
> chasis (with two screws). It's job is to push the reverb
> spring tank forward and hold the reverb spring tank
> stationary during transport.
>
> After transporting the reverb unit, the Spring Dampening
> Lever should be slib back away from the reverb spring
> tank
> (in other words, it should slide to the rear of the
> chasis).
>
> whew... this sounds confusing...
> -dp
>
> --- John Brownlow <> wrote:
>
> > nope -- but I can't see it!
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Zone Fighter wrote:
> >
> > > Did you release the spring dampening lever? (Metal
> Bar
> > at the bottom
> > > of the unit. Keeps springs from bouncing around when
> > moving the
> > > unit...)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/29/05, John Brownlow <>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I should say that the guitar is coming through
> fine,
> > but very dry...
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:06 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on
> > ebay... it is
> > >>> really clean and has obviously been well treated.
> > However, on
> > >>> plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even
> > with all the knobs
> > >>> turned to 10. It is *just* there.
> > >>>
> > >>> The unit was well packed but had obviously been
> > thrown about by UPS:
> > >>> the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and
> the
> > tank had fallen
> > >>> off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and
> I
> > put it all
> > >>> back
> > >>> together but obviously there's the possibility that
> > something is out
> > >>> of whack now.
> > >>>
> > >>> What are the obvious things to check?
> > >>>
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ok, there is no dampening lever on my unit...
I have just taken it all apart and am going to try it on the bench
and see what happens.
On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Zone Fighter wrote:
> In this picture
>
> the lever is peeking out of the left hole towards the center.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/29/05, DP <> wrote:
>
>> The Spring Dampening Lever is a rather large somewhat
>> C-shaped metal slider mounted on the bottom (inside) of the
>> chasis (with two screws). It's job is to push the reverb
>> spring tank forward and hold the reverb spring tank
>> stationary during transport.
>>
>> After transporting the reverb unit, the Spring Dampening
>> Lever should be slib back away from the reverb spring tank
>> (in other words, it should slide to the rear of the
>> chasis).
>>
>> whew... this sounds confusing...
>> -dp
>>
>>
>>
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Is that your tank Zone Fighter? My '64 has a blue .012 resistor
coming off the dwell pot. This one doesn't appear to.
Bill
--- In , Zone Fighter
<zonefighter@g...> wrote:
> Better picture with back off....
>
.jpg
> It is the thing that looks like a Tongue!
>
>
>
>
> On 7/29/05, Zone Fighter <zonefighter@g...> wrote:
> > In this picture
> >
> > the lever is peeking out of the left hole towards the center.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/05, DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> > > The Spring Dampening Lever is a rather large somewhat
> > > C-shaped metal slider mounted on the bottom (inside) of the
> > > chasis (with two screws). It's job is to push the reverb
> > > spring tank forward and hold the reverb spring tank
> > > stationary during transport.
> > >
> > > After transporting the reverb unit, the Spring Dampening
> > > Lever should be slib back away from the reverb spring tank
> > > (in other words, it should slide to the rear of the
> > > chasis).
> > >
> > > whew... this sounds confusing...
> > > -dp
> > >
> > >
> >
Nope, it's just I picture I googled quickly.
I have a reissue tank myself.
Z
On 7/29/05, supertwangreverb <> wrote:
> Is that your tank Zone Fighter? My '64 has a blue .012 resistor
> coming off the dwell pot. This one doesn't appear to.
>
> Bill
>
If you've already released the spring damper and it isn't giving enough 'verb:
1. Take off the front panel.
2. Make sure the RCA's are connected to the spring tray.
3. Make sure both springs are connected and vibrating freely.
4. Slap it back together and listen see if the depth of reverb hasn't returned.
I did this process, found nothing wrong yet when I slapped it back together I
musta done something right 'cause the full reverb had returned. I'm thinking a
spring was cause on the felt pad.
-Marty
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] fender reverb unit issue
I just took delivery of a reissue 'verb I bought on ebay... it is
really clean and has obviously been well treated. However, on
plugging it in, I can barely hear the reverb even with all the knobs
turned to 10. It is *just* there.
The unit was well packed but had obviously been thrown about by UPS:
the naked valve had fallen out of its socket and the tank had fallen
off its springs. Nothing appeared to be damaged and I put it all back
together but obviously there's the possibility that something is out
of whack now.
What are the obvious things to check?
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I tried it on the bench and now I'm getting no reverb at all
I think one of the tubes is shot. The one on the far right.
The unit has the holes where the lever used to be, but not the lever...
What pan should come with a reissue?
On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Marty Tippens wrote:
> If you've already released the spring damper and it isn't giving
> enough 'verb:
> 1. Take off the front panel.
> 2. Make sure the RCA's are connected to the spring tray.
> 3. Make sure both springs are connected and vibrating freely.
> 4. Slap it back together and listen see if the depth of reverb
> hasn't returned.
>
> I did this process, found nothing wrong yet when I slapped it back
> together I musta done something right 'cause the full reverb had
> returned. I'm thinking a spring was cause on the felt pad.
4AB3C1C
The model ending in B is the exact same and the only one I could find.
It works perfect.
--- In , John Brownlow <lists@j...> wrote:
> I tried it on the bench and now I'm getting no reverb at all
>
> I think one of the tubes is shot. The one on the far right.
>
> The unit has the holes where the lever used to be, but not the lever...
>
> What pan should come with a reissue?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Marty Tippens wrote:
>
> > If you've already released the spring damper and it isn't giving
> > enough 'verb:
> > 1. Take off the front panel.
> > 2. Make sure the RCA's are connected to the spring tray.
> > 3. Make sure both springs are connected and vibrating freely.
> > 4. Slap it back together and listen see if the depth of reverb
> > hasn't returned.
> >
> > I did this process, found nothing wrong yet when I slapped it back
> > together I musta done something right 'cause the full reverb had
> > returned. I'm thinking a spring was cause on the felt pad.
OK I am getting reverb again (had the RCA inputs to the pan reversed)
but like I say it is very quiet. What do each of the tubes do?
On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:11 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
> I tried it on the bench and now I'm getting no reverb at all
>
> I think one of the tubes is shot. The one on the far right.
>
> The unit has the holes where the lever used to be, but not the
> lever...
>
> What pan should come with a reissue?
If you are in a band you really want to think about getting a spring
dampener bar. It could be damaged carrying it around to gigs.
--- In , John Brownlow <lists@j...> wrote:
> OK I am getting reverb again (had the RCA inputs to the pan reversed)
> but like I say it is very quiet. What do each of the tubes do?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:11 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
>
> > I tried it on the bench and now I'm getting no reverb at all
> >
> > I think one of the tubes is shot. The one on the far right.
> >
> > The unit has the holes where the lever used to be, but not the
> > lever...
> >
> > What pan should come with a reissue?
This chart explains Accutronics part numbers
The difference between B & C in the 7th feild is that the mounting
would be horizontal or vertical...
B = Horizontal Open Side Down
C = Vertical Connectors Up
Z
On 7/29/05, Jacob Dobner <> wrote:
> 4AB3C1C
>
> The model ending in B is the exact same and the only one I could find.
> It works perfect.
>
>
> --- In , John Brownlow <lists@j...> wrote:
> > I tried it on the bench and now I'm getting no reverb at all
> >
> > I think one of the tubes is shot. The one on the far right.
> >
> > The unit has the holes where the lever used to be, but not the lever...
> >
> > What pan should come with a reissue?
>
Yeah, I'll get one (or make one).
I took it into the amp tech and we tried swapping out the tubes and
the reverb pan with no improvement.
So now it's in the shop.
I emailed the seller... we'll see if he'll split the repair. I
already paid brokerage and duties so no point in returning it.
Apart from the fact that it doesn't work, it's very nice.
On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Jacob Dobner wrote:
> If you are in a band you really want to think about getting a spring
> dampener bar. It could be damaged carrying it around to gigs.
>
> --- In , John Brownlow <lists@j...>
> wrote:
>
>> OK I am getting reverb again (had the RCA inputs to the pan reversed)
>> but like I say it is very quiet. What do each of the tubes do?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:11 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I tried it on the bench and now I'm getting no reverb at all
>>>
>>> I think one of the tubes is shot. The one on the far right.
>>>
>>> The unit has the holes where the lever used to be, but not the
>>> lever...
>>>
>>> What pan should come with a reissue?
>>>
>
>
>
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I'd have a really good amp tech replace the input and
output jacks...On the reissues they are notorious for
failing...I'm sorry that I didn't have time to read
all the postings but I assumed that you are having
trouble with a reissue....They are also notorious for
picking up RFI as in local FM radio stations. Not all
the time....just when you DON'T need it....I tried all
sorts of filtering but that printed circuit board has
some built-in gremme. We have had serveral starting
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too...oh well...best of luck and let me know if you
need additional help.....Best Reverbs, Eddie Katcher
--- John Brownlow <> wrote:
> Yeah, I'll get one (or make one).
>
> I took it into the amp tech and we tried swapping
> out the tubes and
> the reverb pan with no improvement.
>
> So now it's in the shop.
>
> I emailed the seller... we'll see if he'll split the
> repair. I
> already paid brokerage and duties so no point in
> returning it.
>
> Apart from the fact that it doesn't work, it's very
> nice.
>
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Jacob Dobner wrote:
>
> > If you are in a band you really want to think
> about getting a spring
> > dampener bar. It could be damaged carrying it
> around to gigs.
> >
> > --- In , John
> Brownlow <lists@j...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> OK I am getting reverb again (had the RCA inputs
> to the pan reversed)
> >> but like I say it is very quiet. What do each of
> the tubes do?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:11 PM, John Brownlow wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I tried it on the bench and now I'm getting no
> reverb at all
> >>>
> >>> I think one of the tubes is shot. The one on the
> far right.
> >>>
> >>> The unit has the holes where the lever used to
> be, but not the
> >>> lever...
> >>>
> >>> What pan should come with a reissue?
> >>>
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