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Anyone here use a virtual amp for demos/recording? I have a PodXT
which has a hard time getting a good surf sound, but I also use
Native Instruments Guitar Rig, which I think is really impressive.
You would not mistake it for the real thing in a direct A/B but once
the track is sitting in the mix, it totally works.
My set up goes tube compressor > cat distortion > twang reverb >
whatever cab I feel like
I sometimes use the outboard reverb but the built in reverb on the
amp seems better
You do have to fiddle a lot with the settings until it sounds really
'right' but it's worth it.
The built in sounds are almost entirely junk, so I just deleted them.
You can have a hell of a lot of fun by hooking up multiple outboard
tremelos and delays via a splitter, not to mention the big muff clone
up front.
TAFKAJD
--- In , John Brownlow <lists@j...> wrote:
> Anyone here use a virtual amp for demos/recording?
I am currently working on a soundtrack and bought a software sampler for this
project. They
(IK Multimedia) also make AmpliTube and it was convincing enough when I tried
it. So I use
that when I don't want to disturb anyone, as I am working at home. It actually
is very
convenient! The real amp that I have is a 64 bandmaster. Those blonde piggybacks
are not
offered as models, but good Deluxe, Twin and AC30 sounds - I use all three
occasionally.
Not only for guitar, but also for Wurlitzer and reverb feeds. Also I love the
50s tweeds very
much for a broader spectrum of amp sounds. The built-in reverb is barely ok, but
I use my
outboard kendrick whenever approbiate. The tremolo is cool. Those quality amp
models are
the greatest workflow pusher since the invention of the audio sequencer - for
me. But for a
REAL surfsound I am glad I have my Bandmaster, a ribbon mike, and good condenser
mike.
KK
> Anyone here use a virtual amp for demos/recording? I have a PodXT
> which has a hard time getting a good surf sound, but I also use
> Native Instruments Guitar Rig, which I think is really impressive.
Surf would be one of the harder tones to get to. There are a couple of
virtual amps that work very well, but what I have learned as a player
it will be very hard to get away from the dynamics of the real thing.
That is , you know what it really sounds like. Try doing a simple
session G-Rig only with very little effects and play it to a
Non-Player Non-Surf consumer and they may surprise you by saying
"Sounds Great". Of course it all depends on the song writing skills.
If you stay within the spec of surf tone on a PC/Mac, it will sound
like taht to the average Joe.
Now
All of the virual models are setup for heavy production sounds and not
for Surf. I found that a combo of the two works fairly nice. Use a
Real tube amp like a 5 to 15 watt type (Class A), a speaker suff in a
closet (anything will do), this loads the amp. Then a DI coming off
the Lineout (newer) or a tap off the speaker out (older). It will
sound pretty ugly at this point which is ok. Record it onto a track
in the PC/Mac and use Guitar Rig for it cabinet models. That way you
can fool around with the cabs and maintain the amp sound. I use a
Hughes and Kettner "Blues Master" whice IS a later 50's bassman in a
box the a 12AX7 and a EL84 for power as my recording amp.
Other then that it is hard to beat a warm toasty Showman on a cool
coastal night.
Hap from The Neptunes
--- In , "atonalapple"
<atonalapple@y...> wrote:
> > Anyone here use a virtual amp for demos/recording? I have a
PodXT
> > which has a hard time getting a good surf sound, but I also use
> > Native Instruments Guitar Rig, which I think is really impressive.
I dont do pc recording, but in our rehearsalroom petty studio
lookalike, i did use the onboard amp simulator in our digital
recorder (I think it's called a Roland vs800) - úntill two weeks ago,
we didn't have a bass mic, so what i did was have one normal dynamic
mic (sm58 copy by samson) and one line directly into the recorder -
I'd route that one, and use the amps imulator on it. after some
fooling around, i found the best sound for bass I got with 'twin
reverb' through '4x10 cab' settings.
but obviously, that had nothing to do with an actual twin reverb or
an actual 4x10 cab ;-)
I am btw mucho impressed with you guys who can do this stuff with
computers. From what I've heard from the sg101comp, some people get
pretty darn good recording with all that computer stuff. me, I'm
confused to the point of slight panic if I don't have knobs that go
from 1 to 10, and a slight idea of how the wires run that conect
those knobs.
WR
On Friday, July 22, 2005, at 08:07 AM, John Brownlow wrote:
> Anyone here use a virtual amp for demos/recording? I have a PodXT
> which has a hard time getting a good surf sound, but I also use
> Native Instruments Guitar Rig, which I think is really impressive.
I record most of my stuff through a Line6 Guitarport. I picked up some
of their model pax for it, which included a slightly better spring
reverb than the stock one it comes with, as well as simulations of a
65' Fender Twin, A Dual Showman (no year given), and a 63' Vibroverb.
Having never owned real versions of those, I can't say how accurate the
modelling is, but it sounds good to my ear, when recorded.
-c*
On Friday, July 22, 2005, at 10:50 AM, mono_tones_1 wrote:
> I am btw mucho impressed with you guys who can do this stuff with
> computers. From what I've heard from the sg101comp, some people get
> pretty darn good recording with all that computer stuff. me, I'm
> confused to the point of slight panic if I don't have knobs that go
> from 1 to 10, and a slight idea of how the wires run that conect
> those knobs.
That's one of the reasons I like the guitarport, and I could bet that's
why people like the Guitar Rig patch, too. They give you an amp control
face, for your settings. You don't have to program the thing, just set
the knobs like you would on any amp.
And then, after you get the amp set the way you like it, you can save
that setting, to be called up again later. It will load the amp,
cabinet, any effect boxes, and set your knobs to the exact tonal
settings you had before. I've got a dozen different settings saved so
far. It's really nice not having to fine-tune to get my tone to match
up every time I do a recording.
the line6 guitarport page:
www.guitarport.com
The Native Instruments Guitar Rig page:
-c*
i love NI guitar rig, and my POD 2.0. I use them both
in conjunction now. I would spend alot of time trying
and efort trying to get them to sound like "real
amps". Then i realized that with these, i didnt have
to sound like everybody else. So now i focus very
little on getting a "real" sound. But these two units
produce incredible sounds. Guitar rig also has the
best srping reverb ive ever heard from a plug-in or
pedal effect.
--- John Brownlow <> wrote:
> Anyone here use a virtual amp for demos/recording? I
> have a PodXT
> which has a hard time getting a good surf sound, but
> I also use
> Native Instruments Guitar Rig, which I think is
> really impressive.
>
> You would not mistake it for the real thing in a
> direct A/B but once
> the track is sitting in the mix, it totally works.
>
> My set up goes tube compressor > cat distortion >
> twang reverb >
> whatever cab I feel like
>
> I sometimes use the outboard reverb but the built in
> reverb on the
> amp seems better
>
> You do have to fiddle a lot with the settings until
> it sounds really
> 'right' but it's worth it.
>
> The built in sounds are almost entirely junk, so I
> just deleted them.
>
> You can have a hell of a lot of fun by hooking up
> multiple outboard
> tremelos and delays via a splitter, not to mention
> the big muff clone
> up front.
>
> TAFKAJD
>
>
supertwangreverb wrote:
> I just got Guitar Rig. I figure at night, when I need to be quite
> it would be easier to learn songs and play along with stuff on the
> computer. Unfortunatly there is so much time in the delay from when
> I play the guitar to when it comes through my headphones that it's
> pretty much worthless unless I get a new sound card.
Sounds like you have a nasty latency issue. It's pretty common. Give the
ASIO4ALL drivers a shot, there's a good chance you won't have to upgrade
the soundcard. There's a FAQ and troubleshooting guide there as well
T
> supertwangreverb wrote:
> > I just got Guitar Rig. I figure at night, when I need to be quite
> > it would be easier to learn songs and play along with stuff on the
> > computer. Unfortunatly there is so much time in the delay from when
> > I play the guitar to when it comes through my headphones that it's
> > pretty much worthless unless I get a new sound card.
>
> Sounds like you have a nasty latency issue. It's pretty common. Give
the
> ASIO4ALL drivers a shot, there's a good chance you won't have to
upgrade
> the soundcard. There's a FAQ and troubleshooting guide there as well
Nasty Latency, Bad Bad Bad latency!!
Yes, try a different or newer driver before you spend the BIG MONEY
Hap
