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the outboard vs. inboard discussion

Jacob Dobner (jacobdobner) - 21 Jul 2005 16:03:26

The .1% is going to make up 50% of your record sales.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> Yeah, but just think, you could get back that .01% of your audience
and still have the other 99.9% if you just conform and follow the
rules and play surf with a tank.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: red_thundr
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:42 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
>
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > You apparently haven't had Big Tiki Dude and Baja Marty in your
> audience. Those two discriminating surf fans gotta have that tank
> splash.
>
> Believe me, I wouldn't care either way. I'm sure you two would be
> the ones hanging out along the back wall with your arms crossed,
> commenting to each other "I could have done it better/faster".
> Whatever.
>
> Nope, I'm not playing for those 2 or 3 poor nitpicky critics in the
> back. I'm playing for the other 99.9% of people who are out on the
> dance floor who are having a blast enjoying my music. They don't
> care if I'm playing a Jazzmaster or a Flying V, or if my reverb is
> vintage or digital. Deal with it.
>
> It's true though, one could play Pipeline using a Charvel/Jackson
> through a Korg all-in-one digital pedal board into a solid state
> Roland Chorus amp with the chorus on full gallop and the great
> majority of the audience would applaud.
> > - Marty (Planktone Marty)
>
> My point exactly.
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Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 21 Jul 2005 16:13:01

Jacob,
The answer to your penultimate question is a very definite yes.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Dobner
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:54 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
To end this once and for all. Everyone here's favorte surf band
doesn't use reverb. That is right. I am talking about The Strange Dave
Rosenberg band.
I saw Shigeo play through a Yahama Chorus with very little on board
reverb and he was good. Not as good as the previous night with a tank
and Vibroverb. He couldn't kick the tank either.
Everyone makes a great point on the talent vs proper gear argument. It
is a hard argument because mediocre guitarist isn't define. Is Segovia
the technical player and compared to him is Knopfler the mediocre player?
Red, do you play an Artcore?
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> You apparently haven't had Big Tiki Dude and Baja Marty in your
audience. Those two discriminating surf fans gotta have that tank
splash. It's true though, one could play Pipeline using a
Charvel/Jackson through a Korg all-in-one digital pedal board into a
solid state Roland Chorus amp with the chorus on full gallop and the
great majority of the audience would applaud.
> - Marty (Planktone Marty)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: red_thundr
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:15 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
>
>
> ...I've yet to have an audience member comoplain because my reverb
> didn't sound like it came from a tank...
>
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Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 21 Jul 2005 16:22:23

Thanks for the math correction, Jacob! (.1% vs .01%)
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Dobner
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:03 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
The .1% is going to make up 50% of your record sales.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> Yeah, but just think, you could get back that .01% of your audience
and still have the other 99.9% if you just conform and follow the
rules and play surf with a tank.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: red_thundr
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:42 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
>
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > You apparently haven't had Big Tiki Dude and Baja Marty in your
> audience. Those two discriminating surf fans gotta have that tank
> splash.
>
> Believe me, I wouldn't care either way. I'm sure you two would be
> the ones hanging out along the back wall with your arms crossed,
> commenting to each other "I could have done it better/faster".
> Whatever.
>
> Nope, I'm not playing for those 2 or 3 poor nitpicky critics in the
> back. I'm playing for the other 99.9% of people who are out on the
> dance floor who are having a blast enjoying my music. They don't
> care if I'm playing a Jazzmaster or a Flying V, or if my reverb is
> vintage or digital. Deal with it.
>
> It's true though, one could play Pipeline using a Charvel/Jackson
> through a Korg all-in-one digital pedal board into a solid state
> Roland Chorus amp with the chorus on full gallop and the great
> majority of the audience would applaud.
> > - Marty (Planktone Marty)
>
> My point exactly.
>
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Jacob Dobner (jacobdobner) - 21 Jul 2005 16:25:08

.01 percent of the crowd is somebodies foot. Or in our case their
fingernail.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> Thanks for the math correction, Jacob! (.1% vs .01%)
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jacob Dobner
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:03 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
>
>
> The .1% is going to make up 50% of your record sales.
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, but just think, you could get back that .01% of your audience
> and still have the other 99.9% if you just conform and follow the
> rules and play surf with a tank.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: red_thundr
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:42 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > You apparently haven't had Big Tiki Dude and Baja Marty in your
> > audience. Those two discriminating surf fans gotta have that tank
> > splash.
> >
> > Believe me, I wouldn't care either way. I'm sure you two
would be
> > the ones hanging out along the back wall with your arms crossed,
> > commenting to each other "I could have done it better/faster".
> > Whatever.
> >
> > Nope, I'm not playing for those 2 or 3 poor nitpicky critics
in the
> > back. I'm playing for the other 99.9% of people who are out
on the
> > dance floor who are having a blast enjoying my music. They don't
> > care if I'm playing a Jazzmaster or a Flying V, or if my
reverb is
> > vintage or digital. Deal with it.
> >
> > It's true though, one could play Pipeline using a Charvel/Jackson
> > through a Korg all-in-one digital pedal board into a solid state
> > Roland Chorus amp with the chorus on full gallop and the great
> > majority of the audience would applaud.
> > > - Marty (Planktone Marty)
> >
> > My point exactly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Jeff (bigtikidude) - 21 Jul 2005 19:14:25

-Marty,
Oh man im dying here LOL!!!!!!
I was going to say something before, but decided not too.
But since you replied and brought me/us up. I'll add a bit.
It always puzzles me when someone has a tank plugged inline to the
amp, but than has it turned down to like 4.
Then I see recently someone was asking how to get a good reverb
sound while recording. Well if people usually set their tanks at
666 or 777 wouldn't turning it up a bit more do the trick? I mean
you got 3 more to go, Unless your tanks goes to 11.
Oh wait that gies me an idea, new Tanks that go to 11.
it'll be all the rage, and I'll cash in all you guitar players.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
bass player who loves reverb
-- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> You apparently haven't had Big Tiki Dude and Baja Marty in your
audience. Those two discriminating surf fans gotta have that tank
splash. It's true though, one could play Pipeline using a
Charvel/Jackson through a Korg all-in-one digital pedal board into a
solid state Roland Chorus amp with the chorus on full gallop and the
great majority of the audience would applaud.
> - Marty (Planktone Marty)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: red_thundr
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:15 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
>
>
> ...I've yet to have an audience member comoplain because my
reverb
> didn't sound like it came from a tank...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Gavin Ehringer (windanseabeachboy) - 21 Jul 2005 19:43:49

Jeff,
It's weird, but you can't really turn a reverb tank up much past "7's" without
the sound
going to shit. I know there is never enough reverb to your ears, but there is a
point where
a reverb tank ceases to sound like the crashing surf and begins to sound like a
rotting
swamp!
Gavin
Well if people usually set their tanks at 666 or 777 wouldn't turning it up a
bit more do
the trick?
Jeff (bigtikidude)

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Jacob Dobner (jacobdobner) - 21 Jul 2005 19:44:20

I hope to meet Jeff and Marty when we head down to California this
summer. They seem like my type of guys.
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...> wrote:
> -Marty,
> Oh man im dying here LOL!!!!!!
> I was going to say something before, but decided not too.
> But since you replied and brought me/us up. I'll add a bit.
>
> It always puzzles me when someone has a tank plugged inline to the
> amp, but than has it turned down to like 4.
>
> Then I see recently someone was asking how to get a good reverb
> sound while recording. Well if people usually set their tanks at
> 666 or 777 wouldn't turning it up a bit more do the trick? I mean
> you got 3 more to go, Unless your tanks goes to 11.
> Oh wait that gies me an idea, new Tanks that go to 11.
> it'll be all the rage, and I'll cash in all you guitar players.
>
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
> bass player who loves reverb
>
>
> -- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
> wrote:
> > You apparently haven't had Big Tiki Dude and Baja Marty in your
> audience. Those two discriminating surf fans gotta have that tank
> splash. It's true though, one could play Pipeline using a
> Charvel/Jackson through a Korg all-in-one digital pedal board into a
> solid state Roland Chorus amp with the chorus on full gallop and the
> great majority of the audience would applaud.
> > - Marty (Planktone Marty)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: red_thundr
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:15 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard discussion
> >
> >
> > ...I've yet to have an audience member comoplain because my
> reverb
> > didn't sound like it came from a tank...
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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supertwangreverb - 21 Jul 2005 20:22:14

Jeff, I'll tell you another thing those numbers are good for. I've
noticed my tank loosing some drip lately, hadn't really thought
about it until you guys mentioned 7-7-7 being normal. Thanks for
reminding me that what's now 9-9-9 was once 7-7-7 that!! :).
Bill
www.reluctantaquanauts.com
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...>
wrote:
> -Marty,
> Oh man im dying here LOL!!!!!!
> I was going to say something before, but decided not too.
> But since you replied and brought me/us up. I'll add a bit.
>
> It always puzzles me when someone has a tank plugged inline to
the
> amp, but than has it turned down to like 4.
>
> Then I see recently someone was asking how to get a good reverb
> sound while recording. Well if people usually set their tanks at
> 666 or 777 wouldn't turning it up a bit more do the trick? I
mean
> you got 3 more to go, Unless your tanks goes to 11.
> Oh wait that gies me an idea, new Tanks that go to 11.
> it'll be all the rage, and I'll cash in all you guitar players.
>
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
> bass player who loves reverb
>
>
> -- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...>
> wrote:
> > You apparently haven't had Big Tiki Dude and Baja Marty in your
> audience. Those two discriminating surf fans gotta have that tank
> splash. It's true though, one could play Pipeline using a
> Charvel/Jackson through a Korg all-in-one digital pedal board into
a
> solid state Roland Chorus amp with the chorus on full gallop and
the
> great majority of the audience would applaud.
> > - Marty (Planktone Marty)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: red_thundr
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:15 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: the outboard vs. inboard
discussion
> >
> >
> > ...I've yet to have an audience member comoplain because my
> reverb
> > didn't sound like it came from a tank...
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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