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Crazy combos

Casey Cash (surfgitar) - 09 Jul 2005 22:10:40

I used to play in a band where the rhythym guitar player used a Les
Paul - it sounded so "full" that it seemed to overwhelm my strat, and
it was kind of difficult to hear the leads. Personally I think that
the old Fender Mustangs make great rhythym guitars when a
stratocaster is used for leads. They don't have the cutting tone of
the strat, but sound smooth and clear playing chords. Casey
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-- In , snydr@s... wrote:
>
> On Jul 9, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Ran Mosessco wrote:
> The Fender guitars and amps have a scooped mid sound that allows the
> reverb to come through. (That's also the cause of the problem of the
> lead guitar getting
> buried in the mix, so one has to be careful when playing in a 2 or 3
> guitar combo).
>
>
> I'm curious about Ran's statement about the lead guitar getting buried.
> Have others out there experienced this? And what ways have you come up
> with to deal with this?
> EQ's, different amps, different guitars???

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King Coleman (myrealbroadcast) - 09 Jul 2005 22:29:03

I found some pick ups can help here as well. I use Joe Bardon pick ups in a
Korean Telecaster and the control I get over the natural bell tone of a Tele is
remarkable, rythym playing is very smooth on the neck pickup when the tone dial
is used and mids on most fender amps are below center. If you are with 2 or 3
others, flip to bridge pic up and the bright twang will swell above the others.
For a tremelo, I have a bigsby single spring custom fit. Its a cheap Tele with
great parts and can be used for both rythym or lead with minimal effort to
switch between. I want to use a texas special pickup in the middle one day to
see how that sounds.
Casey Cash <> wrote:I used to play in a band where the
rhythym guitar player used a Les
Paul - it sounded so "full" that it seemed to overwhelm my strat, and
it was kind of difficult to hear the leads. Personally I think that
the old Fender Mustangs make great rhythym guitars when a
stratocaster is used for leads. They don't have the cutting tone of
the strat, but sound smooth and clear playing chords. Casey
-
-- In , snydr@s... wrote:
>
> On Jul 9, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Ran Mosessco wrote:
> The Fender guitars and amps have a scooped mid sound that allows the
> reverb to come through. (That's also the cause of the problem of the
> lead guitar getting
> buried in the mix, so one has to be careful when playing in a 2 or 3
> guitar combo).
>
>
> I'm curious about Ran's statement about the lead guitar getting buried.
> Have others out there experienced this? And what ways have you come up
> with to deal with this?
> EQ's, different amps, different guitars???
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holyreveb - 09 Jul 2005 22:45:27

I just crank it louder than everyone else (LSD) Lead Singer Disease
--- In , snydr@s... wrote:
>
> On Jul 9, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Ran Mosessco wrote:
> The Fender guitars and amps have a scooped mid sound that allows the
> reverb to come through. (That's also the cause of the problem of the
> lead guitar getting
> buried in the mix, so one has to be careful when playing in a 2 or 3
> guitar combo).
>
>
> I'm curious about Ran's statement about the lead guitar getting
buried.
> Have others out there experienced this? And what ways have you come
up
> with to deal with this?
> EQ's, different amps, different guitars???

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mom_surfing - 10 Jul 2005 08:54:21

my first learning experience with someone else's equipment was a strat
with a marshall stack against against a strat into a vibraking.
without previous knowledge i couldn't understand why my sound sucked
(yeah, part of it was from being a beginner) but he got the reverb
drips and i didn't.......then when we started playing out he used a
boutique 'bruno' amp which would completely drown out my deluxe
reverb. at least no one could hear my mistakes (or the bass or the
drums or his off key voice)

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holyreveb - 10 Jul 2005 10:21:23

I played a Bruno is a store once, I liked it. Also I'm going to check
out the Rivera amps.
--- In , "mom_surfing" <intheeye@b...>
wrote:
> my first learning experience with someone else's equipment was a strat
> with a marshall stack against against a strat into a vibraking.
> without previous knowledge i couldn't understand why my sound sucked
> (yeah, part of it was from being a beginner) but he got the reverb
> drips and i didn't.......then when we started playing out he used a
> boutique 'bruno' amp which would completely drown out my deluxe
> reverb. at least no one could hear my mistakes (or the bass or the
> drums or his off key voice)

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mom_surfing - 10 Jul 2005 11:38:30

-the one my friend has is a 22W and it is loud. it's got heaps of
reverb. he payed a pretty penny for it, i think about $3500
-- In , "holyreveb" <holyreveb@y...> wrote:
> I played a Bruno is a store once, I liked it. Also I'm going to check
> out the Rivera amps.
>
>

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trainwayne - 10 Jul 2005 11:41:27

After a LOT of years, a lot of bands, and a lot of different equipment
set-ups, I've found myself going back to the basics that I started
with in the 60's......A Mosrite Ventures model ( Japanese repro, with
original US made pick ups and electronics, a Fender RI reverb tank,
and a '65 Bandmaster with a 2x12 cabinet for small-medium sized
venues, and a '64 Showman with a single JBL 15" and a tone ring
cabinet for the larger and outside gigs. I've found that all of the
other things I tried, while maybe slightly better in one way, were
never totally the equal of the original. I imagine that Dick Dale can
afford to have ANY set up he wants, but is still using the same set-up
he's used for years.....If it ain't broke.......... --- In, "holyreveb" <holyreveb@y...> wrote:
> I played a Bruno is a store once, I liked it. Also I'm going to
check
> out the Rivera amps.
>
> --- In , "mom_surfing" <intheeye@b...>
> wrote:
> > my first learning experience with someone else's equipment was a
strat
> > with a marshall stack against against a strat into a vibraking.
> > without previous knowledge i couldn't understand why my sound
sucked
> > (yeah, part of it was from being a beginner) but he got the reverb
> > drips and i didn't.......then when we started playing out he used a
> > boutique 'bruno' amp which would completely drown out my deluxe
> > reverb. at least no one could hear my mistakes (or the bass or the
> > drums or his off key voice)

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holyreveb - 10 Jul 2005 14:23:55

I work as an Eng. in music technology so I'm a high tech gear geek.
My solo acoustic rig is a mass of MIDI controllers. When I did The
Woodies it's was trad, not so much as compression pedal.
This time around I want a solid Surf tone but I really like the
artistic freedom of a band like the Mermen or Pollo Del Mar enjoy. So
I'm experimenting with effects, tone , etc., while keeping it Surf.
--- In , "trainwayne" <trainwayne@y...>
wrote:
> After a LOT of years, a lot of bands, and a lot of different
equipment
> set-ups, I've found myself going back to the basics that I started
> with in the 60's......A Mosrite Ventures model ( Japanese repro,
with
> original US made pick ups and electronics, a Fender RI reverb tank,
> and a '65 Bandmaster with a 2x12 cabinet for small-medium sized
> venues, and a '64 Showman with a single JBL 15" and a tone ring
> cabinet for the larger and outside gigs. I've found that all of the
> other things I tried, while maybe slightly better in one way, were
> never totally the equal of the original. I imagine that Dick Dale
can
> afford to have ANY set up he wants, but is still using the same set-
up
> he's used for years.....If it ain't broke.......... --- In
> , "holyreveb" <holyreveb@y...> wrote:
> > I played a Bruno is a store once, I liked it. Also I'm going to
> check
> > out the Rivera amps.
> >
> > --- In , "mom_surfing"
<intheeye@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > my first learning experience with someone else's equipment was
a
> strat
> > > with a marshall stack against against a strat into a vibraking.
> > > without previous knowledge i couldn't understand why my sound
> sucked
> > > (yeah, part of it was from being a beginner) but he got the
reverb
> > > drips and i didn't.......then when we started playing out he
used a
> > > boutique 'bruno' amp which would completely drown out my deluxe
> > > reverb. at least no one could hear my mistakes (or the bass or
the
> > > drums or his off key voice)

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