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phil....SHHHH!!!...you're giving out my secrets!!!
I master my stuff into a single 4" reference speaker...a
stereo mix running into a single speaker. it get's that AM
radio fidelity...especially on the bass and drum end of the
sound spectrum. but, it still sounds decent on a stereo
boom box or computer speakers.
I also like to compress and eq the final master mix, just
like in the olden days of 45 rpm singles. I prefer the
emulations of old mastering decks found in SONAR...good
stuff.
-dp
--- Phil Dirt <> wrote:
> Most of the power you detect in mono that's missing in
> stereo had to do
> with the way mono was mastered for AM radio. 2 track was
> the deck of
> choice, and mono was just a combination of the two with
> compression and
> serious EQ applied during 45 mastering. You'll often find
> that LP mono
> and single mono are quite different.
>
> CD reissues sometimes don't get mastered, just
> duplicated, and too
> often (as with Del-Fi), they use LP masters instead of
> session masters.
>
> Phil
>
> --- Daniel Kubon <> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I think thats the problem with some of the reissued
> LPs/CDs of other
> bands too. The original MONO recordings kickin ass, while
> the
> rereleased records suckin with their stereo, a lot of
> power get lost.
> fine example (it`s not surf I know): 13th floor elevators
> -
> "psychedelic sounds of...". Mono version = POWER ,
> stereo version =
> Hmmm ?!?...
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AM radio in the sixties:
*3dB max dynamic range courtesy of the program leveles (leveled
output gain, but did not compress dynamic range, though it was
the same general effect - you could hear them breathe!)
*5000 cps response max courtesy limitations of AM transmission
*2%+ distortion
all this on top of common 45 mastering for AM radio:
*5000 cps roll-off
*bass +6 dB
*less than 6 dB dynamic range
It was all about bass boom and squished sound to overcome road noise,
targeted at cheap 6x9 dash board mounted mono car speakers driven by 2
to 4 watt tube radios, which all created lots more distortion and loss.
For the cruiser, it all ran through an under-dash spring reverb that
crashed mercilessly when you hit even tiny bumps, and at railraod
crossings... look out!
Phil
--- DP <> wrote:
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phil....SHHHH!!!...you're giving out my secrets!!!
I master my stuff into a single 4" reference speaker...a
stereo mix running into a single speaker. it get's that AM
radio fidelity...especially on the bass and drum end of the
sound spectrum. but, it still sounds decent on a stereo
boom box or computer speakers.
I also like to compress and eq the final master mix, just
like in the olden days of 45 rpm singles. I prefer the
emulations of old mastering decks found in SONAR...good
stuff.
-dp
--- Phil Dirt <> wrote:
> Most of the power you detect in mono that's missing in
> stereo had to do
> with the way mono was mastered for AM radio. 2 track was
> the deck of
> choice, and mono was just a combination of the two with
> compression and
> serious EQ applied during 45 mastering. You'll often find
> that LP mono
> and single mono are quite different.
>
> CD reissues sometimes don't get mastered, just
> duplicated, and too
> often (as with Del-Fi), they use LP masters instead of
> session masters.
>
> Phil
>
> --- Daniel Kubon <> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I think thats the problem with some of the reissued
> LPs/CDs of other
> bands too. The original MONO recordings kickin ass, while
> the
> rereleased records suckin with their stereo, a lot of
> power get lost.
> fine example (it`s not surf I know): 13th floor elevators
> -
> "psychedelic sounds of...". Mono version = POWER ,
> stereo version =
> Hmmm ?!?...
> daniel
>
>
>
>
> .
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> archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
>
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>
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>
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...heee hee hee...he said "reverb"...
now who would ever want even more reverb on their tiny
little AM car radios? those crazy old-timey cruisers!...
like always, it was a pleasure to read your supremely
informative post...
-dp
--- Phil Dirt <> wrote:
> AM radio in the sixties:
> *3dB max dynamic range courtesy of the program leveles
> (leveled
> output gain, but did not compress dynamic range, though
> it was
> the same general effect - you could hear them breathe!)
> *5000 cps response max courtesy limitations of AM
> transmission
> *2%+ distortion
>
> all this on top of common 45 mastering for AM radio:
> *5000 cps roll-off
> *bass +6 dB
> *less than 6 dB dynamic range
>
> It was all about bass boom and squished sound to overcome
> road noise,
> targeted at cheap 6x9 dash board mounted mono car
> speakers driven by 2
> to 4 watt tube radios, which all created lots more
> distortion and loss.
>
> For the cruiser, it all ran through an under-dash spring
> reverb that
> crashed mercilessly when you hit even tiny bumps, and at
> railraod
> crossings... look out!
>
> Phil
>
> --- DP <> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> phil....SHHHH!!!...you're giving out my secrets!!!
>
> I master my stuff into a single 4" reference speaker...a
> stereo mix running into a single speaker. it get's that
> AM
> radio fidelity...especially on the bass and drum end of
> the
> sound spectrum. but, it still sounds decent on a stereo
> boom box or computer speakers.
>
> I also like to compress and eq the final master mix, just
> like in the olden days of 45 rpm singles. I prefer the
> emulations of old mastering decks found in SONAR...good
> stuff.
>
> -dp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Phil Dirt <> wrote:
>
> > Most of the power you detect in mono that's missing in
> > stereo had to do
> > with the way mono was mastered for AM radio. 2 track
> was
> > the deck of
> > choice, and mono was just a combination of the two with
> > compression and
> > serious EQ applied during 45 mastering. You'll often
> find
> > that LP mono
> > and single mono are quite different.
> >
> > CD reissues sometimes don't get mastered, just
> > duplicated, and too
> > often (as with Del-Fi), they use LP masters instead of
> > session masters.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > --- Daniel Kubon <> wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > I think thats the problem with some of the reissued
> > LPs/CDs of other
> > bands too. The original MONO recordings kickin ass,
> while
> > the
> > rereleased records suckin with their stereo, a lot of
> > power get lost.
> > fine example (it`s not surf I know): 13th floor
> elevators
> > -
> > "psychedelic sounds of...". Mono version = POWER ,
> > stereo version =
> > Hmmm ?!?...
> > daniel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> > Visit for
> > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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